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Daisuke and Conny looking out of the window.She loves to watch the world outside with birds and cars while he just sits there to give her company.
Taken may 2010 - do not steal!
Note: my parakeets have free flight all day long, they do not live in solitary confinement and I will never clip their wings. I care to keep them as appropriate to the species as possible.
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Cute! My budgies hate playstands though. I don't know why. They like to sit on top of their travel cage and my fingers better.
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Cody enjoys watching too
You must upload more of your birds!
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Awwh, that so cute. Like how the light shines on their faces.
I'm thinking about getting a Cockatiel or Budgie sometime in the near future but I still can't decide; leaning more toward the cockatiel though.
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Thank you very much! As I wrote before in my journals, one budgie/cockatiel is none! They are flock birds and should never live in solitary confinement. They are much happier when kept in pairs or groups. They will always stick together, feed and preen each other, eat together and check out new stuff together. So I hope if you decide to get one, you get actually at least two 
If you want to you can read my older journals about keeping budgies appropriate to the species. I made two journals about it, one with a big photo feature.
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I don't know if my parents will let me have two cockatiels all at once cause they aren't the cheapest of friends. But I understand that they should be kept with others.
I'v heard they're harder to tame when bought on pairs as they are more interested in each other; and if you plan on having two tame birds you should buy one, tame it then buy another.
So I'm not sure what to get, I think I'd be allowed two budgies so I'm not sure wether to get them instead. But apparently budgies don't really like being petted very much as this is what I'd want of a pet bird. So it looks like one loveable Cockatiel or two not very budgies.
Am I talking a load of.. Or are budgies just as freindly?
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Every animal is different, so a budgie could love being petted or hate it. Generally, young birds from a breeder who regulary took them out of the nest to hold and pet them, will be more tame then others- for example from the pet shop, where birds are often horrified of hands and most often sick or injured.
Birds are not really useful as cuddly animals. Most birds find a hand rather irritating or threatening as they assosiate it with the claw of a bird of prey. I do not get why so many people want a tame bird, pet it and often even get it to talk their language. Why not accept the animal as it is in it's true nature? It is so lovely to watch them play and fly together. Just seeing them preen each other or call out to each other from a high hanging branch. Then suddenly one will fly off to another place, and the others will follow. Or flock together to eat from a millet or other treat. And sometimes, every once in a while, they suddenly decide to check out your hair or shirt while you sit in front of your pc! They will eventually climb on your hand, or take food of it, maybe even let you kiss or pet them, then fly off again. And that sends feelings of deep luck through your whole body, because you realize: The bird did not come to me, because I forced it or clipped his wings- no it came because it wanted to come.
A bird that is forced to live in solidary confinement will of course get very tame and very attached to you, maybe even clinging to you, or trying to mate your hand.... because it has no other choice! In lack of a partner it has to choose the other living being that is there - a human. And I think it is just disgusting when it suddenly starts to vomit seeds on your finger in lack of the beak of a partner, or start to rub its butt against your hand, because he tries to mate... That should be avoided by giving them a better quality of life - with a parter
It sometimes also works great, if you buy a bird that is already tame, a second hand bird from an animal shelter for example, and give it a partner. The new, maybe shy, bird will see the tame behaviour of the other one and copy that behaviour.
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I'm keen to get any bird I have from a breeder. Or at least a petshop with healthy birds that gets them from a good breeder.
I'm not asking for a bird that I can squeeze and pet to death. I merely want a bird that can be reasonable in the setting of my room. One that, when need be, I can persuade to get back into it's cage instead of force it back in. And one that won't attack or be overly aggresive. By tame I mean a bird that isn't frightened of people and will accept minamil handling.
There were some birds that had been badly mistreated in the pet centre of this animal park I went to today. They had been rescued and brought to the park but couldn't go in the aviary because they were either too aggresive or the other birds didn't accept them. Unfortunatly they were all very people-aggresive so couldn't be rehomed.
Some serious talking with my parents and the price of a new feathered friend and all that involed means it's looking less and less likely. Sadly I would have to start off with a single Cockatiel. But hopefully I can get another bird for some time in the future.
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Ah that sounds good to me
But I am glad you are not one of those people 
When I get a new bird, it is always a bit shy of course. But to set them into the cage for the night, I use a simple trick: First I shoo them to the cage, so they sit on its roof(the roof should be plain and not pointy like the roof of a house, it is more handy when plain, because you can also put toys on it, food, or a dish for them to bath in). Then I darken the room, so they cant see anything. Then I approach them carefully and calm. I will press my finger under their belly, and they will step onto the finger then. After that I can set them into the cage one by one.
At first it really takes some time for them to learn. First they will fly off the cage again, even in darkness. So you have to rush for the light switch so they do not bump into something, and shoo them to the cage once more. But after a few times, they get that it makes no sense to "run" and they will stay put.
After that, they also take time until they dont fly away if you press the finger against their belly. It helps to train with them during the day, by luring them on the hand or finger with millet or other treats, so they learn that the finger and the touch is not negative.
After that it also takes time until they stay on the finger as long as you need to put them into the cage. First they often will jump off and climb back onto the cage roof. but after some more tries, they stay until they are inside. The longer I have them, the better they get.
For that it is really much better to buy one bird first, tame it and then buy a partner. But I would not wait longer than one or two months for the lonely birds' sake. In some few cases, a bird will never become tame and always stay shy. I think that has to be accepted then. Some breeders will take an aggressive bird back maybe. (Or a partner if that one does not get along good with the older bird) So I would really prefer a breeder than a pet shop since - at least here in Germany- you cannot give back a pet to a petshop once you bought it.
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Yes, I know what you mean. Some people treat animals as objects that are fun until they vomit or mess in the house - It's kinda creepy sometimes.
That shooing and darkening idea sounds like a good one. Makes sense too, cause the darkness automatically calms the birds then they're easier to deal with and tempt back into their cage for bed. Must get easier with time aswell as they learn the routine. Good way of bonding aswell as they learn to trust you and that human hands are generally good and helpful things when you know what to do.
In the UK I'm sure if the pet doesn't meet standards then a refund is in order. Their are two good shops near me.
One is part of an animal park with a zoo license and takes in recues birds that it then intergrates into it's large aviary flock or if they don't get on keeps them in the pet centre where they see people and other birds, and they work with a breeder & could sell health young Cockatiels.
The other one specilses in hand-raised birds and their proper care - a shop I'm sure you'd approve of, the sell birds in pairs, budgies, hanhs macaws and senegal parrot all had signs "must be purchase together, will not go alone", they also looked after birds on holiday and had their sale birds out to play when the shop was closed.(On the wall they had a poem, it's really sad and I was about crying in the shop XD. It's the second one here - [link] called Human Hand.
So I'd get a bird, if I do get one(which might be until chistmas as they aren't the cheapest of friends) - I'll get it from one of those places.
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Wow yes those two shops sound amazing
Awww I love the poems. The first one makes me almost cry, too. 
The second poem is indeed even more sad. I dont want to think of how many pet birds become unwanted and have to suffer in a small cage without fresh water or food and often hung with a blanket to make them go silent.
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I was really impressed by these shops. Unlike Pets a Home(largest chain of pet store in the UK), they often have really stupid staff that don't know what they're doing. Although they no longer sell birds.
Awwh, poor little budgie, that such a shame. It's sad most people aren't aware that the sounds their birds make often have a lot of meaning.
I found it really nice that they'd written that poem on the wall, it was really rather telling but also so very sadly true. On the other wall they had a list of things you need to consider if buy a macaw which was quite comical.
So I at least I know the birds I get from these places will be happy and healthy. I sure hope I get a bird now after looking at these places.
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hehe I can imagine that list of things
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XD, I can imagine them chewing everything in sight. They sure need a lot of watching and training. But they do make great friends.
The hall sounds like a good idea, I could imagine the birds having a good time flying around with their friends.
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yes indeed, it was a cool place! It was heartwarming, when she rescued a parrot or cockatoo from bad living conditions in solitary confinement, sitting in a small cage over years, not being able to actually move or fly. and then the bird comes to her place and is allowed out of the cage and begins to carefully and curiously walking around and making first attempts to fly. And after a while some of them are able to fly again and can be moved to the hall, where all the others live. She also lets them have a shower from time to time
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Danke
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Thank you so much
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