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Published: 2010-04-06 18:41:10 +0000 UTC; Views: 895; Favourites: 19; Downloads: 0
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I see this all the time and I think it's kind of moronic. Unless you're arguing about grammar/English/language/linguistics/etc., bringing up how the other person uses chatspeak or cannot spell or what have you is irrelevant and pretty rude.I can understand not being able to really understand the person because his/her language is so poor, however, you simply ask them to reiterate, not berate them for being "stupid" because they don't know English.
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Yes, exaclty, how about helping people to correct their mistakes and improve, instead of being a jerk to them? This stamp makes a nice suggestion.I have seen around far too often such a rude treatment to people for the way they are typing and definitely something must be done about it.I agree for the chat speak, but sometime people just may need help.Some of them are typing badly on purpose, if they are trolls for example, but some others may be just kids.
And english is not my first language.So I hope you will exuse the mistakes you will find in my typing?
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Your English is very good. 
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Thank you.I suppose it becomes good at some point, if persistent enough.Writing here in DA has helped a lot.
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I imagine that it would. Practice is the only way to get better!
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You have a point yes but I also believe if you want to be taken seriously in an argument, you should be using somewhat proper grammar and spelling. Honestly there is no excuse to not be able to type normally unless English is your second language, you have a learning disability(which you can prove) etc.
I do agree that you shouldn't really be using improper spelling or grammar as your main argument against them, but it should be brought up.
I have seen that with some people because they are never told WHY it is wrong to type like that all the time it can effect their writing skills. I think is important to work on good spelling and grammar and as I said before of course I am not perfect but I can always improve. Talking to a friend on MSN of course is a example where chat speak or whatever it is can be used. On an art site when you are critiquing someone's work or trying to make a good argument you should make some effort.
sorry long comment is long
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No, no, don't worry about long comment. Long comments make me happy.
I also dislike how it seems to imply a lack of intelligence. The person can be making a very valid point, but because their improper use of language, there is the assumption that they are stupid and therefore seems to take away from the argument itself. This is wrong. It is a communciations issue, not an intelligence one and so we shouldn't be insulting their intelligence.
I guess what I'm asking for with this stamp is respect amongst each other, even when we disagree.
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thank u so much for this. whenever ppl run out of aarguments they also go 'well u use chatspeak so that makes u stupid so everything u say doesnt matter lol!!!' :\
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You're so welcome. It's true, people do just revert to insults when they've run out of anything valid to say, or sometimes even before. I think it's a very unbecoming thing to do. Even if we disagree someone or if we don't particularly like them, I think we should still have the decency to show each other respect.
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A great point well made. Thank you for making this stamp.
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It's rude to talk to someone in chat speak also. srsly i dont leik 2 hav 2 reed this.
If they are learning a second language. Then yes, I forgive them. But, if they're just too lazy to type a few extra letters....then I can't respect them enough to give them the time of day. Because seriously. I had my finger sliced on a meat slicer and you know what? I'm still typing out the whole words, even though I can't use that finger. It's not hard.
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Whether it's rude or not is by perspective and circumstance. While it may be annoying, they're not really insulting or disrespecting you, so I don't see it as rude unless they're doing that on purpose. If that is just how they type because they've fallen into the pattern of using the newest "form" of English (or whatever language they're chatspeaking in), then they're not really doing it as anything against you.
And I do agree it is very annoying, but it still does not make sense to throw it out there during an argument and, as is usually the case, to use it to insult and berate the person, when it has nothing to do with the argument. I find that rude and it solves nothing. Indeed, it makes that other person defensive and then the argument either comes to a standstill or a back and forth match of name calling and insults.
Whether you respect them or not is an entirely different thing. You don't need to respect them if you don't want to, however, it still doesn't make sense to me to insult them with it.
Just the way I see it. I definitely appreciate your opinion though, because I also think that it is a matter of laziness and it really isn't all that difficult to type in complete words.
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It all depends on the context of the conversation. If someone typing like a retard started calling someone and idiot, then I think it's fair to throw their grammar/spelling at them. For the most part, I don't care. But I respect my language.
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Yeah, I suppose. Though a better option in that instance would be to just walk away, I think.
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