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Haha, that was my biggest point to Jared when we started watching Korra. I was like, "See if Zuko and Katara ended up together, they'd both still be alive towards the end."
I liked Kataang too, but I wish I knew why Aang died, he would of only been in his 60s or so. Also don't Mai and Zuko break up in the comics and Zuko and Suki become a thing? I remember it being extremely confusing. D:
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I remember it quite well as I have that comic! Suki and Zuko isn't a thing (fortunately in my opinion, I'm not a fan of very tangled lovestories^^'). But Mai did leave Zuko for a period of time because he didn't trust her enough to tell her his problems.. And when he was heartbroken, Suki was a good friend. But there wasn't any hints of something more, only that they both missed their loved one and they kept each other company^^ But the story isn't finished of course! I think Bryke let slip on accident or not, that the firelord in Korra is Mai and Zuko's granddaughter though, but its only a rumor. So we'll see! I hope so; )
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Oh okay, see I never had access to the comics I only saw snippets online, (still want to see how Zuko finds his mom!!!), so it was a lot of hearsay I read on Avatar-wiki and online. I'm glad they're not though I love Sokka and Suki, but I've heard that was a no go too ): I like relationships when they're not crazy dramatic and constantly switching partners xD So when I heard that all these things might be true I was upset a bit, it just didn't fit the story with me. I understand the argument too that the Gaang is all young but in the time they live in it wasn't not common to get married young, even in one's teen years, or to stay with someone you met when you were 14. I'm surprised they didn't finish the comic series before LoK. I really hope Zuko and Mai are together since they made it such a big deal in the show. Izumi has that Mai attitude too..I'd be surprised if she wasn't her daughter xDΒ
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Exactly! Well, for Sokka and Suki, there's nothing indicating it going wrong in the comics so far, but Bryke has apparently mentioned that Suki died young or something, leaving them childless. And I forgot about Aang, you wondered how he died! I don't know, but everything points to it not being too dramatic and therefore not used in the plot. Would have been an interesting event otherwise, right? But I think he was sick, because I mean, they searched watertribe villages for couples expecting children, so his death can't have happened surprisingly
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I'm okay with that, I know a lot of people like Sokka and Toph, especially for her second daughter, but I really didn't want Sokka and Suki to break up, sadly I'd rather her die than Sokka leaving her for Toph. Don't know how that's bad though..haha. Thanks for clearing that up though, it helps since I haven't read the comics myself yet. xD
That's true, you can only put so much in an (animated) plot like Korra. I also need to finish Korra..I really enjoyed how it started off but it started getting less interesting to me towards the second/third season. I'd still like to finish it though, I think I've seen parts of the fourth and I know how it ends relatively.
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Yeah, I'm kinda glad it wasn't Toph and Sokka for some reason - that much is confirmed at least, and neither Lin or Su were his^^
I would push through season 2 so you can watch the third. It's sooo exciting and filled with action and good animation, also, next to NO love drama 
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Same here, and that's good to know!
Something I really dislike about season 2 is how Korra treats Mako. :< so not fair and I felt like Bryke did that to force the break up, it didn't feel real life to me because Korra went from being pretty decently mature in their relationship to just, what happened to you? But I've seen season 3, I like it better without the drama myself xD I watched a little bit of season 4 last night, I like that Toph is in it, I'll try and finish it to see how it all works out. I think what disappointed me too was with the original series I loved the build up of who Lord Ozai was, but in Korra it feels so fast paced with the villains and what not. I really like Amon's idea and concept but he disappointed me a bit. The whole air bending thing was cool too and how that group of villains worked out. So I'll see how Kuvira works out though.
Girl, I am 100% with you on that! Jared and I only did the whole, hold hands, kiss, and hug until we were married. So don't worry your not alone in being old fashioned! Don't know how Norway is but it's pretty rare in the States these days and kind of looked down upon. I also don't like how Korra, Mako, and Asami all dated each other, literally. I know it's not incest but it feels that way..that's just got to be so awkward. Bolin is the only one (sorta) in the group who didn't date anyone in that group xD Don't worry, I babble a lot myself.
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Yeeah, honestly, I thought they had pretty nice chemistry and I get that life was stressful, but they showed so little understanding towards each other, both of them I think. If she got really mad, he should have been able to see the circumstances, when he did something wrong, she should forgive him eventually it just seemed.. Forced, exactly:/
It's the same here, only, I fear its worse^^' Boys suffer from the whole 'be a man' pressure and feel like they're a loser unless they sleep with someone before they're 18... Girls have it easier here in terms of pressure, I think. Other places they are called a whore if they did sleep with someone, but not here (usually). They're treated more similar to boys, feeling lame if they haven't had sex. - But we're also not bullied/commented on if we don't, which I think boys do.Β
Since religion is mostly out of the picture here, nobody mentions it in this context. But to me it just doesn't feel right to show that part of yourself to anyone but 'the one'. (Like uuh.. Your sexual side, I guess.) For me, marriage is still really important, its supposed to be true, and last till one of you dies. Sadly, I'm very alone in thinking like this
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Exactly, I also just finished the last season..it was okay. It was cool to see them all grow up a bit, but I'm still upset with how they wrote the relationships xD Mako has a whole episode about his relationships and that he needed to figure himself out first (which I was really impressed with), but it seemed they were hinting he needed to figure himself out more for Korra. Even in the last episode he says he will follow her whenever she needs his help and will always be there for her. Dx Horrible writing. Don't have him say that if she's going to be with Asami. I could go on more but it's done, nothing we can do. xD But on a happier note the robot thing was pretty awesome and I loved the airbenders. Jinora and Kai are so funny together. Bolin finally got his head on straight a bit too xD I'm just happier with the original series I guess. But it's hard to compete with a master piece like the first series, I'm sure it was hard for them to beat.Β
Oh no, really? I wouldn't say it's much different here then, from what you're saying. America is slowly starting this idea, "Do what you want to do if that feels good for you and don't judge others." But I feel like no one follows that xD I think it's fine to express a different opinion, but many (liberals for me personally) are very rude and mean if you feel conservative about this subject. It's silly really. I was harassed at work for wanting to wait, teased and ridiculed constantly, but I was like whatever, I don't think you should sleep with a random person. (And in now way am I judgmental if people have either, I really don't get it is all). My mother and father had very crazy lives and lots of "lovers" and I've seen the hurt they both have from it. They were very honest with me and said, "It may seem fun but it's not worth it if you don't love the person. And it brings a lot of unnecessary baggage to future relationships." I also have close friends who wish they would of waited for the person they actually love now, so I'm very thankful I didn't go down that road.Β
I completely agree with you. There is definitely more of the Christianity part in the US, and the church I go to I think handles the topic great so that people who have done more than others feel welcomed and not judged or "less than," however the media here loves to try and paint churches and Christians like we're going to kill people for sinning. -sigh- No I totally get what you mean and I don't think you're being judgmental, it's honestly what you feel is right, and that's fine. One night stands I can't comprehend, I can see if you truly love each other and aren't married, but a person you just met at a party is so, so foreign to me xD But I know for myself, if you wait for someone who you truly love and is not only your lover but best friend, it's amazing and I think it's worth waiting. It's like the psychological experiment they did on kids, they told kids they could either get one piece of chocolate now, or wait 5 minutes for a whole chocolate bar. Almost every kid ate the chocolate immediately xD They were sad they couldn't get a whole chocolate bar, but it's a similar idea I think. People don't want to "wait."
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Agree so much with the Mako thing-_- Such a bummer. I don't mind Korrasami at all, just the way it was built up, it didn't... Feel right to me. I just wish they'd gone all the way writing them together OR let her end up with Mako OR have Korra alone because.. I still don't see why she needs a partner so desperately. The show is about her isn't it? Not romantic relationships
Yeah, exactly that.. I've experienced what that baggage can do, and seen the love of my life cry himself to sleep wishing he'd waited for me. Which is one of the reasons I think both ends would benefit from being a little more selective. I certainly don't think it has anything to do with genders, or that guys are supposed to be more experienced than girls or any of that. I just... Think sex is very important. And not in the.. Physical need type of way that people make it out to be, and that it should just be fun and a lot of it. I think its very emotionally important, and something to be... Careful with. : )
Yeah, its sad:/ Honestly, when I was younger, I thought it all was very exciting and not a whole lot of opportunity bid itself to me, (I was the... Hang with friends, play soccer, read books, kind of girl) few parties. So when I got the chance, I really wanted to take it, but I just couldn't. My body just... I felt like everything smelled bad and itched and in other words, I was disgusted. And I was only trying to kiss someone I didn't love, how on earth can one sleep with someone they don't love? It's beyond me 
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Yeah, they said they built up Korrasami from the beginning, I don't think so. But I agree, Korra does not need to have a partner. But I prefer Mako, it was written so much better xD Also I like his development the most out of the series. (Verrick's was good too). It felt forced in the writing as well when Korra only wrote Asami and Mako was upset (rightfully so), I feel like she would have written him once at least. Don't know if you have watched How I Met Your Mother (great show) but similar things happen where too many people date each other xD It's like, stop, just no.
That's so sad 
That might be a blessing in disguise in a way that you weren't a party girl. 
What's the normal age to marry in Norway or appropriate? When will you guys get married? (Also I never asked how he proposed either! Sorry if these are too many questions xD)
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I don't believe that either, in that case, its very poorly written
I agree!! Sex needs to be openly talked about and discussed, but not only as fun and how to use a condom
Normal age.. Hm. I guess there isn't really one, and THATS the difference between here and there! I'd say if you were a young couple wanting to have children and all that and a marriage, its more normal to wait till youre 25+. A lot of people here have kids before marriage, then marry when they're 30+ an have more money. (With the same partner an everything! They just hold it off forever. I don't want that.). Then there's all those middle-aged people remarrying. The only thing unusual I would say, is people marrying under 25-20 years old. 18 year olds?? UNHEARD OF. 
I want to get married next summer! But me and Simen (Simon in english?) are bad planners:/ Also, very nervous about what my father and stepmother will say... They'll definitely look down on us for marrying too young
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Yeah I agree. People say they only talk about abstinence, but they talk about condoms and fun too, they don't bring up any emotional point. It seems like every culture is different with how they judge both sexes differently, it is odd there are different expectations for both.
That's interesting. It's only until recently that people could get married young and not be a huge deal, it was actually normal here. Now people are saying they don't want to be married or have kids tell 30s or even 40s! I think that's insane. Is it legal to get married there at 18? It is here, but I know Japan you have to be 20 at least. I got married at 21, Jared (22) and I were engaged after 10 months of dating, people thought we were insane here xD People say they want to party and "have fun" over getting married too young, but I don't think getting married young is "wasting your youth" you get to have fun with one of the most important people in your life. One of my favorite authors, Donald Miller, just got married recently in his early 40s and he talked about living a life only for himself and he realized how alone he felt. He didn't have any pictures of people on his walls in his house and would realize how unfulfilled his life felt. He was at a coffee shop one day and saw a couple and their kid come in and realized he wanted to live a life that wasn't about just himself. Before he would have rolled his eyes at that couple but now he realized he wanted that more than anything. It was really touching and is rare to hear such honesty in America's culture lately.Β
Simen/Simon, it's the same here relatively.
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I agree with you, being able to grow up together and grow old, is to me, the most wonderful thing in the world. However, I don't think you have to be married to do that, so if you stay together even though you're not married, thats just as wonderful to me! For being single, I'm all for it IF, it means you maybe date people to get to know them OR being perfectly happy alone, traveling and seeing things on your own is just as good - I just don't get the 'being single to sleep around'-idea that some people seem to have... I believe you can live a perfectly full and amazing life SINGLE, just... Yeah, what we talked about before^^'. For me, personally, being with Simen is the best thing that's ever happened to me, so I do believe people are happier in couples IF they meet THAT person
You really are right, in the end it doesn't matter what they want for us - I listen to suggestions, but only Simen and I can choose^^ I want a huge wedding (huge, as in we know very many people), but not an expensive one... Sounds crazy
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I can see that to a point, but to me it's odd why people don't get married if they've been together forever or want to commit to each other fully, it's almost so they can still get out or don't fully trust each other. At least from people I've known personally in this subject. I've known two people who have been together 20-25 years and never married. One couple is because the girl (Linda) was married once for a couple years and he was horrible to her. So she never wanted to marry again, but I mean to me, they are married (and under the law here if you live together for a certain number of years you're married in the eyes of the government). I feel bad for the guy too because he's amazing, I get she's afraid but after 25 years it's odd to me to not take that last step I guess, but I can empathize with that fear if her first husband was horrible. Second couple I know have 2 kids together, been together 25+ years, but I have no idea why they're together. They are horrible to each other! D: They both make a ton of money so it seems like they're business partners more than a couple. But he's cheated on her many, many times throughout the years, which is why she refuses to marry him (totally support that, that's just so sad to me), but I don't get why they're together. They stand each other for their kids a few minutes and they're just snapping at each other. D: Not a healthy relationship at all.Β
One of my dear, dear friends is going through a situation with her boyfriend right now too, they've been and lived together for 5 years now and she really wants to get married, however, he doesn't believe in marriage. So to her, she feels like he will only commit to her where there isn't more risk involved. He's a great guy, however I hate how hard it's been on her and me and her other best friend just got married, so I'm sure that's not an easy thing to watch either. :/ Sorry for all the ramble on that, just made me think of those situations.Β
I totally agree, I don't think you have to be married to have a life at all. My mother-in-law has been single since Jared was 5, and she's a woman who really lives life to the fullest every day, and works really hard in all areas of her life. She's at the point where she'll only marry again if she really loves the guy, she doesn't want to settle to just "have" someone. I don't think anyone should settle, it's not worth it really.
Exactly!
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I think a lot of people are simply afraid of being alone, not just because of economy or children, but just in itself. To me, that's a huge weakness that is worth coming over, but it seems many just can't. So they push on, even if there's nothing for them there anymore but safety of the relationship.
I can tell just from the way you describe it, that we think about it very differently even though we agree on staying to one person. In Norway, marriage doesn't really mean anything. For a lot of people, it means literally nothing. The economy and laws hardly change anything, and couples living together far outnumbers the married. And believe me, some of the couples I know about that never married are no worse for it and I truly think they intend to stay together forever - they just never did the ceremony. That's pretty much what it is here. And usually an expensive one at that
But for me, its a little different because I still cling to the romantic notion of it, so FOR ME, it still means something. I get why they don't and I don't mind, honestly! But it feels important to me^^ I'd.. Like us to share a name, and I want my things to actually, legally, be his things, my money and my family. Yeah! I also get why some people would doubt their relationships seriousness - especially when the other one doesn't want to. But you don't need this ceremony and legal stuff to be 100% invested in someone, I firmly believe you don't! It depends on what he means by 'not believing in marriage', however, because that sounds like he doesn't believe in sticking and pushing through rough patches and making it to the end - which uhm.. Would make me very worried, for sure: (
Exactly
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That's very true, I don't think anyone wants to ever be completely alone with no one around.
Yeah definitely, but I understand people who aren't religious might look at it differently as well, since marriage originated within religions. That's really interesting though how Norway is like that, the laws definitely change drastically here. One big problem is if your loved one gets injured you can't see them when it's "family only" unless your married. There's also financial gain for getting married here along with a few other perks. Do you guys have common law marriage out there? I'm kind of curious if that's a thing outside of the US.Β
My friend and her boyfriend aren't religious at all but she's like you in the sense it means a great deal to her for him to want to make that commitment to her, his argument is he doesn't see the point in marriage because neither of them are religious, but she feels if he truly wants to commit to her, he'd do it for her and she believes you don't need to be religious or have a religious ceremony, which is true, so his argument to her is really..invalid I guess? It's definitely a complicated and frustrating situation for her, and I really don't know how to help her through it other than being there for her. But I mean he's really committed to her, he pays 80% of the bills and helps her with her student loans as well, and you can tell she means the world to him. I don't want to paint him as a bad guy at all, because he's not. I am worried they are looking for different things in life though, which could be a strain on a relationship for sure. He's a 27 and she's 22 and she's already got a college degree and is looking for jobs in her field (animation, we went to college together), but he's working a minimum wage job and isn't really pushing himself or showing any interest in trying to start. So I think she's worried about that as well.
It really does, also here in America if you're getting stuff FOR your wedding, do not tell salespeople that!! They charge more for items if you say it's for your wedding. So frustrating. But I think it's so cool to have friends help and have a cool ceremony together,Β simpleΒ and sweet. 
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I guess that is what we would call it in english, in a way. If I was to directly translate what we say though, it'd be living-together-partner, as in living in harmony and taking care of each other. So basically, just like being married! There's no obvious way to tell apart a couple that just moved in together and one that could just as well have been married though, when they introduce themselves as such. Which is another reason I want to marry, so I can brag, hahaha.
Hmm, sounds like you're right, if they're to make it work they might have to take some steps... Honestly, I'd recommend talking to someone, together, its never a bad thing for a couple: )
I don't know if I forgot to mention or maybe I was unclear, I just want to point out that a lot of people still get married over here, but in 90% of the instances, doesn't have anything to do with religion, like in the very old times. Vikings would use gods in their moral stories when wedding, but didn't 'marry' out of religion. For the most part, it hasn't been a sin to be together outside marriage in Norway ever, except for when the wave of christianity was at its strongest and until the 1960s something. At least thats the rough idea of it^^'
WOW, holy moly, thats a lot of money!! This year I guess I spent about 500 NOK (I dunno, it used to be 100$ but our valuta dropped) on presents, already having warned my family we are students and can't really buy expensive stuff... They're fine with it, and finally listened to me - giving us a little less presents
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I see, that's a cool concept. Things get lost in translation for sure. Haha, it is nice saying, "This is my husband," not gonna lie xD
Yeah right? I don't know why it's considered "bad juju" to talk to a marriage counselor or someone about your relationship. Everyone acts like you'll break up/divorce if you go that route but I think it's good to humble yourself and admit sometimes you need a third party to delegate the conversation.
Oh okay I see! That's interesting. But that makes sense as well.
I think that's around $100. Being a student definitely tightens the pockets a bit xD I feel you on that. What is Simen going to school for? So true! Isn't it crazy what kids get these days? When I was a waitress, I realized how spoiled kids were, they're getting worse every generation here. I feel like kids don't get spanked anymore or told, "No you can't have that." xD Kids do not need ipads, they need to be social outside and go to a playground and scrape their knees.
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Ooh, I really want to do that too! not because we can't talk openly or anything, but sometimes I think it helps a lot having someone who knows the right questions and topics to talk about^^
Its not true anymore, the church is completely taken out of stately affairs and christianity is no longer official religion by state. But until recently, we had to ask them to remove us, which I currently haven't done yet (even if I should have! I'm ashamed.. There was a debate whether homosexuals could get married and everything, the church said no, and lost about 80% of its members here.) I didn't do it because I was swimming in exams and forgot about it after, plus now I have the option of using their locations for my wedding
He's studying film, especially production and I think he fancies directing or producing the most: )
There's a long tradition here now for not raising your hand to kids ever, and I agree with that. Words work so much better as punishment - and they learn the art of discussion early on; ) Everything can be solved with words! But scraping knees is definitely important... At this point, I wish it was obligatory for all kids to learn to ride or something else gritty and challenging. I see such a difference between the kids I teach to ride and those that don't, although soccer works for scraping knees!
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I highly recommend it! It definitely helps. We took one that had 5 main sections, I think most of them are designed the same way. It's really cool do to it with a couple that's been together for a long time too and hear their experiences together.Β
Interesting. Can you not use a church if you're not on the list any longer?
That's really cool, sounds like a lot of fun too!
I can definitely agree with that, I was never spanked, but Jared was, his mom was fair though in her spankings. I'm not against spanking necessarily, it's when parents start grabbing belts and harder things to spank with I get a little uneasy about. But kids just don't get punished in America much anymore, like being told no or getting things taken away, they're getting more spoiled. It was really sad a few years ago during Christmas time kids on twitter were found complaining they didn't get the latest Apple product. D: Jared works with kids who suffer from mental health problems or are just problematic and under 18, but sometimes he gets kids who just need a parent to actually parent their child. It's really sad though, he had a girl last week who tried to kill herself because her parents took her ipad and phone away because she had bad grades in school. That's a very common case lately. But I agree, communication can fix a lot of issues people face if they're just willing to talk it out. Haha, I can vouch for that, I played soccer, it can hurt! Riding horses are fun too, I can see that teaching kids a lot of great things.
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Yeah, I'm not against a mild slap as long as it doesn't hurt and never in the face. More like a 'get yourself together' slap, instead of punishment. As for punishment, non-physical methods are far more efficient, according to psychiatrists that analyzed grown-ups and how their parents had affected them. My parents actually went a little too far because I'm still terrified to ask any favors of them - they would very often say no to what I asked and were very strict if I did something I wasn't allowed to - just showing that it had a lot of power over how I turned out.. Taking things away and curfews and bans and all of that.. It can work if used right! No kid is permanently harmed from having their ipad confiscated IF they are mentally healthy, which often depends on their parents. Its pretty sad, yeah
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Agreed, face is too much, I only think you should spank a kids butt. Really?
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They never improved, but got more careful after I ran away when I was 15 or 16 something. Its still really hard to talk to them about anything, honestly^^' Only, I have gotten tougher.
Truly, it sounds like he's doing really important work. I know many people in a similar field, it seems very hard but rewarding. I wish they earned more
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Really? I'm sorry Kris that sucks. :/ at least their more careful I suppose. It sucks it took running away to get there though.
It really is and it's something not everyone can do it, it's a difficult field. Agreed, they do not pay them enough and they keep promising these empty promises of a raise. I doubt it'll happen sadly.
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Yeah..
Everyone blames the presidents for everything, when the system is so rotten it doesn't matter if a good guy sits on top. (Of course it does but.. Not as we want it to^^')
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Totally, and while I don't necessarily always agree with the President's decisions or policies, (whether Obama or past Presidents), people forget this guy has a lot of weight on his shoulders and I wish people would be more encouraging than constantly calling him an idiot or a fool, etc. It only stresses his job more.
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