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density-tmr [2011-06-02 21:16:50 +0000 UTC]
A really great image - well done
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LukeDenby In reply to Aetere [2009-04-08 15:36:17 +0000 UTC]
Sounds like I succeeded with the eyes and mouth then. I agree the jaw isn't right though.
Drawing from photos is fine though. I agree that you should do those traditional school exercises of drawing from life and mirrors at first. But once you have a strong enough grasp of what you want to do with art drawing from life shouldn't be a priority. I think the main reason art teachers try to get kids from avoiding photos is they reference bad photos, are not ready to yet, and/or flatten the image in the process. Also some students tend to only draw from the photo. In most situations when some serious art is being made the source isn't referenced anymore (you stop looking at the model, photo, whatever) and it's just you and the art.
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Aetere In reply to LukeDenby [2009-04-08 19:09:40 +0000 UTC]
I agree, but if you can't draw well from photos it looks rather grotesque.
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Aetere [2009-04-07 15:08:26 +0000 UTC]
it dosen't look like expressive draw,
good anatomy = academic drawing ? strange thinking,
rudness ? I think your comment is primitive, deviantart is to help each other and for good and bad (critiques) opinions, right ? not only for unnecessary sweet complements, thats way here are so many narcistic people,
and I don't understand why are you writing to me ? lol
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LukeDenby In reply to Aetere [2009-04-07 18:52:26 +0000 UTC]
I'm all for critiques that help the artist out. But I agree that just saying something sucks isn't a constructive critique. What part of the anatomy was bothering you?
Also I wasn't going for photographic representation here either, but saying that doesn't give one license to draw poorly which I hopefully wasn't doing.
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iandseniff In reply to Aetere [2009-04-07 16:36:01 +0000 UTC]
The key word is "critiques" which goes beyond "I like only the contrast, but anatomy sucks, you should more practice with that" because if you took the time to view this particular artist's gallery you would see anatomy, when he wants to is a strong point. What you did was not critique. What you did was make a broad uneducated statement.
And yes expressive, as in the tendency of an artist to distort reality for an emotional effect. In this instance using those sharp contrasts that you like so much to achieve this effect as well as bold line work. Not academic, which is an exacting scientific approach to art created for the basis of recreating reality. Please excuse me if I use the term academic drawing to describe a piece with good anatomy. I understand that not all drawings made with proper anatomy are "academic" in the strictest term. However, I feel my point was clear.
I am writing to you because your comment was shallow, non-helpful, ignorant and frankly it just pissed me off.
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Aetere In reply to iandseniff [2009-04-07 20:44:46 +0000 UTC]
I disagree, I wrote "practice with that"
so author of this pic should know whats wrong.
My opinion was short and literal, perhaps too literal.
I think mean "sukcs" in english isn't one of the most vulgaric ? I've heard worse.
I know whats Expressionism, if you don't -look at Shiele, Marc, Kandinsky and Rivera artworks. In theirs work are many human disproportions, deformartions but it's "properly" and stylish. Here it's rather unskilfully. That girl was drew the same as a background, hair is unnatural like other parts of her body. Only high contrast is attractive. This pic have something from expressionism, maybe becouse it was drew emotionally, but it's not truly expressive.
I think our discussion here is unkind and unnecessary , if you want to write to me, send me a note
If I made a mistakes sorry for them, english isn't my real language.
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Aetere [2009-04-07 12:40:52 +0000 UTC]
I like only the contrast, but anatomy sucks, you should more practice with that
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iandseniff In reply to Aetere [2009-04-07 14:53:03 +0000 UTC]
I believe he was going for a more expressive piece as opposed to an academic drawing.
Also, what compels someone to criticize with this level of rudeness?
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