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lordrook [2013-09-12 02:34:09 +0000 UTC]
In honor of all those who might have considered commiting suicide, attempted suicide, or in memory of those who succeeded in stealing themselves away from our lives.
We've lost too many great people, friends, and lovers. We have to talk and make sure that those around us know that they are cherished.
As Mr. Leo Buscaglia once said, "Why wait for the funeral to send the one you love roses? THEY CAN'T ENJOY THEM THEN, IDIOT! Send them now! Let them know that you're alive, and that you cherish their life!"
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Naneia In reply to lordrook [2014-07-12 21:40:33 +0000 UTC]
this is a different topic, but when you spoke of flowers and funerals, I remembered something about domestic violence, something like a poem that was very popular because it was a chain e-mail.
"I got flowers today.
It wasn't my birthday or any other special day.
We had our first argument last night,
And he said a lot of cruel things that really hurt me.
I know he is sorry and didn't mean the things he said.
Because he sent me flowers today.
I got flowers today.
It wasn't our anniversary any other special day.
Last night, he threw me into a wall and started to choke me.
It seemed like a nightmare.
I couldn't believe it was real.
I woke up this morning sore and bruised all over.
I know he must be sorry.
Because he sent me flowers today.
I got flowers today,
and it wasn't Mother's Day or any other special day.
Last night, he beat me up again.
And it was much worse than all the other times.
If I leave him, what will I do?
How will I take care of my kids?
What about money?
I'm afraid of him and scared to leave.
But I know he must be sorry.
Because he sent me flowers today.
I got flowers today.
Today was a very special day.
It was the day of my funeral.
Last night, he finally killed me.
He beat me to death.
If only I had gathered enough courage and strength to leave him,
I would not have gotten flowers... Today."
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lordrook In reply to Naneia [2014-07-13 12:28:46 +0000 UTC]
That's a very moving poem!
I hate that someone felt like they had to write it!
No one should be hurt or bullied by another!
Thanks for sharing that with me!
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Naneia In reply to lordrook [2014-07-13 19:20:46 +0000 UTC]
You're welcome, it was realy popular, it had the sentences divided and an image of a women under them, in each image she got more beaten up :/ but I'm sure it helped many people, specialy the ones that think it's ok to forgive when someone says "sorry" and brings presents... Nothing erases what happened and if they keep taking flowers they will end up getting them on their funeral. I hope people could found a way to help others on those type of situations, but a person must be able to stand up and take others help first, very similar to suicide cases also... Sometimes, there is someone to help, but they just say it is fine and refuse others help. It has to start on the ones being victimized, don't you agree? I just hope we see less and less of those cases. I've to believe in that.
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lordrook In reply to Naneia [2014-07-15 00:32:40 +0000 UTC]
Yes, I do agree!
The victim has to realize that they need help, and that there are those willing to help without being judgmental.
Maybe if we can convince people that the victimizers are also in need of help, the victims will be more willing to help them!
Maybe if the victims... I don't know. It sounds so EASY, but never is!
I'm just tired of reading obits and watching hearses go by.
There has to be a way!
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Naneia In reply to lordrook [2014-07-15 20:42:16 +0000 UTC]
I'm not so sure about the rehabilitation of abusers though. I've had some around me and they died abusers. I don't see how evil can change. But people have to learn how not to take it. That's what I think. Shame is a big problem too. Now is not like in the 50's. People have places to go and ask for help, but they're afraid/with shame to do so. Also, they should learn that staying with an abusive person is bad for the kids, so learn that is no good to stay with them for the kids.
About suicide that often happens because of pressure, I belive the abusive people that lead one to do so have no self esteem so they need to put others down in order to feel better. If the one being putted down thought "they just lack self esteem" instaed of "they are better than me" things would be different too.
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lordrook In reply to Naneia [2014-07-15 21:51:14 +0000 UTC]
I didn't say the abuser could be rehabilitated. Normally the victim wants only what's best for the abuser. If we could convince more vicrims the best thing for their abuser is to get help, maybe those victims would come forward.
I know that's manipulative, but if you can get the victim away from their abuser, maybe we can show them what's really going on! It's worth a shot isn't it?
Abusers and bullies only rehabilitate when they go through being abused or bullied. They suddenly learn EMPATHY for what they did to their victims!
The best start is to teach children that no one has the right to abuse or bully them, that they have worth, and need to tell people when it happens! If the first person doesn't listen to keep telling until one does!
I was a victim, but my bullies have now learned enough empathy that they have apologized and have proven that they have changed.
I'm lucky I got away from them!
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Naneia In reply to lordrook [2014-07-15 23:42:03 +0000 UTC]
"the victim wants only what's best for the abuser" not in most cases. In most cases they think it is a good option for someone else. And that's just not right. No one can live happy knowing someone is suffering for them, right?
I think everyone got bullied at some point in their lifes. I has in different points of my life. But you know, it made me want to show them I was better than them. It all depends on how much you believe in yourself. I think my parents never cared much about my feelings. But I knew I had to believe in me in order to someone to appear and love me. I was so used to do everything by myself anyway. They never had time for me. So I knew I wasn't so bad. The less you like who you are, the more hate you attract into your life. If you just keep strong, more people will stand up for you. Others say I'm strong, but I don't think that's the case. Because I don't love me. But I accept who I am. I know that there are people out there with a worst life than the one I've. So I shall be thankful. I hate when all people do is complain: "oh I'm so this I'm so that, my legs are like this, my belly is like that" be thankful you have all the parts of your body together! Dammit! I wish people accepted who they are without being always asking for compliments, being attention seekers. Everyone needs to feel valorized, but everything that's too much is bad. Maybe it's just me, I'm just happy with just being healthy? I'm something right considered wrong in this "perfect" society full of attention seekers? I just want to live peaceful, with what I can have, that's all. I wish more people did the same and we would not be in such a messed up world.
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Naneia In reply to lordrook [2014-07-16 00:14:21 +0000 UTC]
Exactly! That's exactly how I think.
It doesn't matter now, since now you have the maturity to see it wasn't your fault.
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lordrook In reply to Naneia [2014-07-16 00:24:59 +0000 UTC]
Exactly.
How are you?
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Naneia In reply to lordrook [2014-07-16 00:41:49 +0000 UTC]
I'm good now, I never left others affect me much anyway, one have to credit them, they tried lol
I've someone who loves me now and the true friends are the ones I still have, not the ones left behind that I thought to be my friends.
I never get sad for that you know... Only with time we know people, so I just face it as something normal to happen.
It was always false friends that tried to make my life harder anyway. But it didn't made me not trust anyone. I don't realy think that I will get hurt until it happens, and if it has to happen, well, it doesn't matter. I know I can face it. It's no good to live with fear. My parents were always fearful of what could happen. As a result, they didn't let me live much. I ended up doing stupid things hidden. It's never good to take someone freedom away. But you know, I always view the positive side. If I've kids someday, I think that will help me understand them better
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lordrook In reply to Naneia [2014-07-17 01:01:32 +0000 UTC]
It does help with kids (from someone with some experience)!
They come and ask anything.
I don't get mad, I answer them truthfully, if I don't know I tell them that too and we work together to find the answer. If there's a problem we work together to fix it.
I try to say yes as much as possible with the understanding that there might be guidelines.
Attendance at party: yes - but only until 11:00.
The funny thing is, I have an easier time explaining why with the 16 year old than with the 11 year old (and don't go near the rabid 2 year old - unless you enjoy being a teething ring!)! Freedom with responsibilities can teach good lessons!
I'm glad you're okay!
If you need anyone to talk to, feel free to contact me!
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Naneia In reply to lordrook [2014-07-17 12:05:38 +0000 UTC]
Well, I'm far away from having kids, however, I find some parents very irresponsable, of course there are things I won't accept them to do, however, I won't say no to every single thing, like I had to take.
Thank you.
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lordrook In reply to Naneia [2014-07-17 18:57:40 +0000 UTC]
Too strict can be just as bad as too lenient.
There has to be a balance.
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Naneia In reply to lordrook [2014-07-17 20:10:36 +0000 UTC]
of course
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