Description
Examples of some possible shades of color that can be seen in dogs, an extension of my outline of genetic colors/patterns.
Written explanation of theoretical genetics to accompany visual examples [link]
Black (dominant black, chocolate, blue, Isabella, progressive graying)
Dog Color Feature: Chocolate, Blue, Isabella, GrayThis is a supplement to my Theoretical Dog Genetics guide . I am using thumbnails from dA so that artists will get the credit that would be harder to give taking pictures from other online sources. The goal is to educate anyone who is curious, as well as to provide artists with references that will improve the realism of their work. I am still learning, and guessing the correct color can sometimes be difficult even with an ideal photo or the dog itself to examine. If you spot any mistakes let me know. If you see your picture here and don't want it to be let me know and I'll take it down. If you would like to contribute a picture for reference send me a link. Photographs need to be clear, in good lighting, and show enough of the dog to provide a good reference for markings. I will be going back and adding to this whenever I find new references. My personal goal is to improve the quality of my art and educate myself because I like to know more about the patients I me
E Locus
Dog Color Feature: Masks, Grizzle, Recessive RedThis is a supplement to my Theoretical Dog Genetics guide . I am using thumbnails from dA so that artists will get the credit that would be harder to give taking pictures from other online sources. The goal is to educate anyone who is curious, as well as to provide artists with references that will improve the realism of their work. I am still learning, and guessing the correct color can sometimes be difficult even with an ideal photo or the dog itself to examine. If you spot any mistakes let me know. If you see your picture here and don't want it to be let me know and I'll take it down. If you would like to contribute a picture for reference send me a link. Photographs need to be clear, in good lighting, and show enough of the dog to provide a good reference for markings. I will be going back and adding to this whenever I find new references. My personal goal is to improve the quality of my art and educate myself because I like to know more about the patients I me
I Locus (Red, Fawn, Cream, Silver), Urajiro, Albinism, Leucism
Dog Color Feature: I Locus (Red), Urajiro, AlbinoThis is a supplement to my Theoretical Dog Genetics guide . I am using thumbnails from dA so that artists will get the credit that would be harder to give taking pictures from other online sources. The goal is to educate anyone who is curious, as well as to provide artists with references that will improve the realism of their work. I am still learning, and guessing the correct color can sometimes be difficult even with an ideal photo or the dog itself to examine. If you spot any mistakes let me know. If you see your picture here and don't want it to be let me know and I'll take it down. If you would like to contribute a picture for reference send me a link. Photographs need to be clear, in good lighting, and show enough of the dog to provide a good reference for markings. I will be going back and adding to this whenever I find new references. My personal goal is to improve the quality of my art and educate myself because I like to know more about the patients I me
Brindle
Dog Color Feature: K Locus- Black, Brindle, AgoutiThis is a supplement to my Theoretical Dog Genetics guide . I am using thumbnails from dA so that artists will get the credit that would be harder to give taking pictures from other online sources. The goal is to educate anyone who is curious, as well as to provide artists with references that will improve the realism of their work. I am still learning, and guessing the correct color can sometimes be difficult even with an ideal photo or the dog itself to examine. If you spot any mistakes let me know. If you see your picture here and don't want it to be let me know and I'll take it down. If you would like to contribute a picture for reference send me a link. Photographs need to be clear, in good lighting, and show enough of the dog to provide a good reference for markings. I will be going back and adding to this whenever I find new references. My personal goal is to improve the quality of my art and educate myself because I like to know more about the patients I me
Merle
Agouti (sable, grizzle, tan points, recessive black)
White spotting (Irish, piebald, extreme piebald, ticking, roaning, Dalmatian spots)
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Addendum (husky pattern, grizzle/domino, white trim, Boxer white, split face, lozenge) [link]
References: [link] [link] [link] [link]
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Leonca In reply to ??? [2021-03-05 17:43:09 +0000 UTC]
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TheBeastOfHearts [2016-11-16 19:18:31 +0000 UTC]
What does G mean? Greying?
Thanks for this helpfull tutorial ^^
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xLunastarx [2016-03-01 14:59:58 +0000 UTC]
Hi Leonca, I have a question about the color called orange. Is it a shade of fawn or red, or maybe a completely different color?Β I think it's fawn as I've seen it also called lemon online, but I'm confused as in several photos the dogs have yellowy or golden eyes and reddish brown noses like I've seen in red Pit Bulls.
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Leonca In reply to xLunastarx [2016-03-02 04:35:38 +0000 UTC]
That would probably be a combination of recessive red (the shades do indeed have a confusing variety of names), and the chocolate gene. This would give the dog lighter eye and nose colors without effecting fur color.
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puzzliluna [2015-06-14 10:49:45 +0000 UTC]
Hi! I love his drawings and works. They are wonderful. I would like to get in touch with you. Well, I 'm investigating the appearance of blue eyes in dogs. And I like his drawings and research. It is not easy to find information . If you can , write me to lunalubna@hotmail.com Thank you
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Leonca In reply to puzzliluna [2015-06-14 17:48:34 +0000 UTC]
Thank you. I have written about blue eyes in my guide to dog genetics
Theoretical Dog GeneticsWhen I was a kid I can remember being confused by the logic of dog genetics presented in cartoons. When two different looking dogs had puppies, the boy puppies looked like the dad and the girl puppies looked like the mom. I can only guess that this lack of originality was an attempt to cash in on the new character's resemblance to an older character that had already won people over, but where's the fun in that? Being the animal nerd that I am, I resolved to give myself a way to design a realistic guide to prevent such blandness.
How to use
Much of this has not yet been proven in studies with real dogs, so if you want to learn more about a real dog it is useful to research the specific breed or likely breeds that are in the dog's background.
Each locus is a spot which can hold two possible alleles out of any number present in the whole species. All together the alleles (genotype) give you the final appearance (phenotype). To decide the appearance of offspring of two characters, g
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xLunastarx [2015-06-07 01:54:51 +0000 UTC]
What about green eyes? I had a Dalmatian/Lab mix when I a kid that was chocolate with white spots and his eyes were green. Also I've seen blue Doberman that have gray eyes.
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Leonca In reply to xLunastarx [2015-06-07 02:35:46 +0000 UTC]
I have heard of hazel eyes in some chocolate dogs, but it probably isnβt very common.
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Leonca In reply to SecretsoftheNalco [2014-07-20 22:18:25 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, for people who don't want to download it to get the colors. I don't use this one anymore because it's not as accurate.
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SecretsoftheNalco In reply to Leonca [2014-07-21 15:03:55 +0000 UTC]
Oh, okay. I would download it though. At least the accuracy is close, right?
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Leonca In reply to SecretsoftheNalco [2014-07-21 19:32:49 +0000 UTC]
It's OK- the colors just don't compliment each other as well as the shades in the newest one.
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SecretsoftheNalco In reply to Leonca [2014-07-21 19:38:12 +0000 UTC]
Okay. Well, if it is still okay if I use it. The colors and shades do not have to be actuate anyway, iit will just give me an idea of the shades and such.
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SecretsoftheNalco In reply to Leonca [2014-07-21 21:30:45 +0000 UTC]
It's okay. I know a lot of people are when it comes to their work, but the way it is shaded or looks, or whatever the owner of the work is worried about, doesn't matter to me at all.
Lol.
And thanks again.
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SinlessSinner [2014-06-09 20:34:35 +0000 UTC]
very nice but what about albino animals as well as cats and dogs?
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Leonca In reply to SinlessSinner [2014-06-10 01:26:05 +0000 UTC]
You just color it white with blue eyes.
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SecretsoftheNalco In reply to Leonca [2014-08-29 20:40:22 +0000 UTC]
Albino cat and/or dogs can have very pale blue eyes, but there is also a chance that the eye color will also be pink and/or red.
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ShopKey [2013-01-15 23:54:15 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much for this I used it here to help figure out the genetics in my borzoi: [link]
If I got something wrong feel free to let me know I'm a moron when it comes to genetics....
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dropkiick [2012-03-07 17:29:53 +0000 UTC]
This is highly useful, but I am still unsure how to formulate of put these codes together. I'm just starting out in this. My Pitbull, Daft Punk - [link] - is a red and white, but not recessive red. How would I put together his genetics?
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Leonca In reply to dropkiick [2012-03-07 18:58:46 +0000 UTC]
Clear sable is common in pit bulls. It can show up as a solid red, and is also the color of dogs that are red and express the mask gene. You can use this to assign a genome for color and pattern [link]
It isnβt 100% accurate since some genetic interactions are still unknown, but it at least gives you an idea of how it could work. In his case, he could be-
K locus: kyky (expressing agouti locus patterns)
A locus: ayc_ (clear sable, but able to carry any other agouti pattern since this is the most dominant agouti locus gene)
E locus: E_ (not carrying mask, but could be carrying recessive red)
These are just the easiest to be realistic with. You can get more in-depth if you want, assigning genes for white spotting amount and intensity of red.
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dropkiick In reply to Leonca [2012-03-07 20:10:03 +0000 UTC]
Okay, but how would I lay it out? Like horse genetics would be like EE/AA/nCr or something.
What do I do with these letters? What order would I put them in, I'm a tad thick:
KyKy/Ayc/E or how lol?
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Leonca In reply to dropkiick [2012-03-07 21:13:35 +0000 UTC]
I usually start with the K locus, since solid black vs. expressing agouti pattern is one of the biggest distinctions. I donβt know if there is really any one best way to organize it.
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dropkiick In reply to Leonca [2012-03-07 21:28:05 +0000 UTC]
Okay, I'll see if I can figure it out. Thank you for your patience. Since my boy is Red n White, for the base red, would it read something on the lines of: Kk aa | Ee ??
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Leonca In reply to dropkiick [2012-03-07 22:36:43 +0000 UTC]
Youβre welcome. K locus would need to be kk, since Kk with Ee means a black dog.
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weeksie [2011-12-30 15:42:28 +0000 UTC]
Hi Leonca,
These are just terrific--are they available anywhere for purchase? I stumbled on them doing research into color, agouti wild in particular. I breed AKC Border Collies and have a nearly week old litter, a Christmas surprise, that appears to be entirely agouti wild base color, with classic BC irish spotting. They range from light grey to dark grey, with darker heads and backs, etc., overlaid with a veil of darker tips. If this is their color, the odds of it turning up in this pedigree are incredible, even more so that they are all the same color, the odds of which has me wondering if there is some dominance at work. Btw, sire and dam are B&W. Sire carries and has produced d, e. Dam by pedigree may carry tri and b through her sire. Dam of dam was DNA tested for d, e in her pedigree and found to carry neither. Sire of dam has produced both tri and b, but no known dilutes over several litters to various bitches. Some litter mates of dam show a shadow of tricolor points--brown hairs intermingled that ar obvious in bright light, but none have been DNA tested for color. It's been a bit of a mystery.
Thanks for your work!
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Leonca In reply to weeksie [2011-12-31 04:53:13 +0000 UTC]
I donβt know how to sell things as prints, so Iβve never enabled that option.
Glad you have found this useful.
Is agouti wild another term for sable in Border Collies? I have heard of sable in them, but not the pattern I usually associate with agouti.
Black is dominant to agouti locus patterns (unless one parent is recessive black, not sure if Border Collies carry that), so it is just a coincidence if two black and white dogs have a litter all expressing agouti locus patterns. The sable and agouti patters are dominant to tricolor (tan points), so it looks like maybe one parent was carrying it and never had a chance to have pups expressing agouti locus patterns.
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weeksie In reply to Leonca [2012-01-18 13:32:01 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the response. In the intervening weeks, the BC community has come forward with one other litter that resembles mine, whelped @ 5 years ago in the UK, that was dubbed the "chinchilla" litter, and many breeders are now assuming that my puppies' coloration is due, at least in part, to ch. The other litter apparently "went black" by adulthood, becoming barely discernible from a truly black and white Border Collie. I have seen just a few photos. Sable (what is traditionally thought of as sable such as is seen in Shelties, etc) is increasingly common in BCs as certain breeders are breeding for both that, and saddleback (breeding a BC for color is generally frowned upon). You are correct that agouti wild is unheard of in BCs for the most part, though some have speculated that my puppies might be both aw and ch which presumably cleared out the tan to silver. At any rate, they are exceptional and have caused quite a stir. I am awaiting vetgen results for k, b, d, ay, at, a, e. They don't offer testing for either aw or ch for BCs.
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Leonca In reply to weeksie [2012-01-19 00:59:20 +0000 UTC]
Interesting. I have heard of saddles in rare cases in the breed, but I didnβt know any color was considered less desirable.
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weeksie In reply to Leonca [2012-01-19 01:18:42 +0000 UTC]
It's not so much that specific color, as the idea that the Border Collie should be bred for working ability, not cosmetics. There is the adage that no good dog is a bad color. Under the AKC standard, all colors are acceptable, except white should note predominate. That being said, there is a strong preference, even among a lot of stockmen, for a black and white dog.
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Leonca In reply to weeksie [2012-01-19 01:24:07 +0000 UTC]
Oops, I misread that as breeding for that pattern was looked down on.
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centaurii [2011-10-23 03:27:47 +0000 UTC]
I read all your dog guides and I really like them! I love learning about animal genes and seeing all the colors they come in. Might you ever do one for cats? xD
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ravingwolves [2011-06-13 11:28:29 +0000 UTC]
hmmm that's odd, I have a dog who's fur is gold(fades out to white on belly/front- and hindlegs/tail) has golden eyes and a light brown mask with a VERY light brown nose....... how's that possible?? *is confused*
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Leonca In reply to ravingwolves [2011-06-13 18:46:14 +0000 UTC]
A gold (red) dog can still be affected by the chocolate gene, giving it a chocolate mask and amber eyes. Noses on red dogs can also become lighter with age.
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E-Moe-Wolf [2011-05-30 13:08:11 +0000 UTC]
funny. I must have a messed up dog, she's white but she's got brown eyes.
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Leonca In reply to E-Moe-Wolf [2011-05-30 21:57:10 +0000 UTC]
That sounds normal.
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Edenbub [2011-05-28 18:04:36 +0000 UTC]
Oh my god. Please marry me. I love this. ;_;
You saved me from a hell of researching.
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Its-Wolfeh [2011-05-25 16:16:45 +0000 UTC]
Hmm, so I guess red really doesn't exist? I was being told my merles have black noses and therefore that person was trying to convince me they were blue merles, which they are obviously not... But meh. They do have brown noses its just rather hard to see.
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Leonca In reply to Its-Wolfeh [2011-05-25 19:10:52 +0000 UTC]
Some red (chocolate) merles can be dark enough to look like they are blues (black).
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