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mirelaatudorei [2019-05-29 20:40:02 +0000 UTC]
Hey! Thank you for the resource and the time you have dedicated to this!
I also have a question: what if you draw your own version of a story, for example Alice in Wonderland, based on the description of the characters from the books and your own imagination? Is that also potentially infringing? I refer here to the case you use those drawing for commercial use on different objects.
Thank you and have a great day!
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KiRAWRa In reply to mirelaatudorei [2019-06-01 08:25:25 +0000 UTC]
No problem, thanks for reading!
It has the potential to still be infringing, especially if you are using names from the book like characters and scenarios. Though this sounds like you'd be adding a lot of your own interpretations and creativity and the more of your own ideas and content you add, the lest risk you have of getting into trouble c;
Specifically though - Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, the original book - has become public domain, so you may use anything from it freely.
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Akai-Blake [2019-01-15 15:34:15 +0000 UTC]
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KiRAWRa In reply to Akai-Blake [2019-01-20 02:21:38 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for reading, I'm glad you found this resource helpful!
Something you may want to keep in mind is that the selling of fanart is a great big "gray area" that defies a strict definition of being either legal or illegal. The laws surrounding copyright are purposefully written to be flexible, so it usually comes down to a case-by-case basis on whether the infringed party feels like taking action or not.
Most people feel quite safe drawing and selling fanart and fanworks, but the more infringement an artist commits, the bigger a target they begin to paint on their back.
The artist you describe sounds like they're playing quite a risky game.
I understand it is very hard to compete with artists who mass produce fanart commissions, and I'm sorry to hear about your struggles with this person.
In regards to DeviantArt hosting the fanart, they aren't actually liable for the activity or content that may be taking place. It's a very common TOS clause that you will find on any website that hosts user-generated content.
Unfortunately, you reporting anything to DA under the pretense of "illegally selling fanart" won't yield much result, because only the owner of the 3rd party content can determine what is infringing or not. Your best bet would be to contact the actual companies or owners of the fan content. They may have an American or English-speaking office branch of the company you can contact. The owners would be the only ones who can take action against infringement if they deem it bad enough to do so.
If you want to contact the artist or any of their followers, I agree that you are most likely going to be ignored or blocked, even if you are as polite as possible. No one who makes that amount of money with such a strong following would be willing to change their ways from a stranger unaffiliated with the copyright holder telling them it's wrong. I'm sure they are already aware of the thin line they are walking and have chosen to take the risk.
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kittyocean [2018-12-07 18:31:02 +0000 UTC]
I wished more people thought like this. In the Netherlands, I am pretty much the only one who says this. Someone else says it too, but I wonder if she stays true when in a pinch. All in all, 2 artists in the entire dutch artist alley scene think like you. They all say I am overreacting. Fun fact: some of the biggest fanart sellers are graduated art students. You'd think they'd know better....
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KiRAWRa In reply to kittyocean [2018-12-08 12:00:19 +0000 UTC]
Fanart is such a difficult topic to navigate and concrete information is scarce! Thank you for trying to do some research and giving this a read!
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kittyocean In reply to KiRAWRa [2018-12-08 14:57:19 +0000 UTC]
I've been saying selling fanart is against the law for over 10 years now. Seldom have I found a 'kindred soul' who thinks the same. I had a blast reading it and will redirect people to this article. Maybe they will accept from someone else what I've been saying for years now.
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BudderMeow [2018-12-03 09:10:02 +0000 UTC]
i've heard it's copyright infringement to sell fanart, but what about fanart of a fan character you created? The characters are based off of a copyrighted franchise, but someone else made them. Is it still copyright infringement to sell them?
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KiRAWRa In reply to BudderMeow [2018-12-04 06:46:03 +0000 UTC]
I can't say with any certainty what is or isn't allowed, but the amount of added content and creativity does play a big part. If you feel that your fan characters (and art of those fan characters) are far enough removed from the original content, you may have added enough creativity to say your characters are original enough to sell.
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BudderMeow In reply to KiRAWRa [2018-12-04 06:57:25 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for the answer, it's really helpful ^-^
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hansblox [2018-10-09 23:45:32 +0000 UTC]
so i had alot of phineas and ferb vore on my profile page but like i searched phineas and ferb vore on bing and i found alot of people staeal9g my artwork. i like worked super hard on my art vore than i got really mad and pekkkooekosadjasfidsagijaidsjasndg
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CrazySammo19 [2018-08-04 20:24:53 +0000 UTC]
So, i dont believe ive read it yet up here, but i did my own investigating, and in order to use a copywrited material, without trying to go through all the hoops and time wasting, you can go to your city hall, where you plan on selling copywrited artwork, and buy the copywrite to use on that name of characters, for $50. they told me its not a long process, but i had to sell a piece of artwork to someone with a logo, and so i checked copywrites on it, and i was told the same thing, so i went through the loops and the law states that you can sell fan art and even their version and your version of that specific artwork, for $50. so, its possible, just a bit pricey if you plan on doing alot of different anime or comic type things for selling. hope this information helps!
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snowny In reply to CrazySammo19 [2019-07-16 05:31:50 +0000 UTC]
Is there a legal term for purchasing the use of the characters? I would like to check if my country have the same process. By the way, if it's selling in another country, do you know how will the process apply?
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KiRAWRa In reply to CrazySammo19 [2018-08-08 00:07:37 +0000 UTC]
I have never heard of that before, that's really interesting and handy! Definitely requires more research, but I'm going to feature your comment as an option for others to potentially look into.
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CrazySammo19 In reply to KiRAWRa [2018-08-10 22:22:58 +0000 UTC]
Awsome, thank you. Yeah I was doing a piece that had a universitys logo and when i went to get my piece blown up for printing they told me i cant sell it without consent of the copyright. they told me who to call and I called and they gave me all that information at city hall. based on where you are selling, you need the consent from that city to sell it. so you would be paying per ity if you plan on travelling and selling. but if you just plan on doing at conventions in your city alone then no need to pay for consent at other cities.
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KiRAWRa In reply to CrazySammo19 [2018-08-10 23:29:16 +0000 UTC]
Very useful information, thank you for sharing!
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miss-alchemist [2018-07-20 09:47:13 +0000 UTC]
It's NOT LEGAL to sell fanarts unless you have a permission from the owners of copyrights. There is no "it depends", "only if" or "just be careful".
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NINJAWERETIGER [2018-06-30 20:38:09 +0000 UTC]
It is good to know. I am currently drawing superhero fanart. One being Deadpool another being Black Panther. I think I will just give them to friends for free. Otherwise I might deal with copyright laws.
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YellowStonesArt [2018-05-05 02:04:50 +0000 UTC]
I got a question. Sorry if I sound dumb
Can you get in trouble for taking an idea that exists already and merging it with your own idea and then patents as your logo?
Example: A charter from One Piece name Zoro and a pet pug (Make the pug have similar features such as the scar on his right eye, green hair, and earing.)
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KiRAWRa In reply to YellowStonesArt [2018-05-05 09:56:50 +0000 UTC]
Unfortunately there's no real way for anyone to be able to answer this. The usage and legality of taking features from a third-party character would be completely up to the owner(s) of that character. I would stay away from anything that would clearly imply you've taken features from something as well-known and One Piece though, especially if you're going to go down the route of patents, which is very expensive and a lot of legal paperwork to register as well as working with attorneys.
That's not to say you aren't allowed to make a character with scars and green hair and an earring, but the stakes get quite a lot higher when you move in the direction of profiting from derivative content, and exponentially higher when you start registering expensive trademarks (and I DO mean expensive, the application fee can be $5,000 and up). You don't want to be tossing that kind of money around on something that could potentially get flagged by the copyright owners of One Piece.
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Ada-Erika [2018-04-30 18:38:57 +0000 UTC]
This is so hard since conventions are filled with fanart selling people. And fanart is the easiest way to make a profit. Unless you've made a comic series with a relative fanbase (or have one online from your art) you selling original art has little chance to gain a profit with. I'm having an internal fight with this
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KiRAWRa In reply to Ada-Erika [2018-05-04 22:46:56 +0000 UTC]
Even after all these years I still have the internal conflict about whether or not to buy from/support fanart convention artists. It's a convoluted topic to say the least, and unfortunately there's no true answer to whether it's good or bad. In my personal opinion, I don't think there's anything wrong with supporting an artist if you like their style and what they draw. I think the most important thing to consider is whether the artist is a fan of what they're drawing and just wants to make some cash to support it, or if they're mass-producing fanart pieces purely to make bank because they know it'll sell.
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Mireba [2018-04-14 21:21:51 +0000 UTC]
Humm... looks like my project just got a lot more complicated.
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Wuerfelmuffin [2018-03-27 19:09:42 +0000 UTC]
That is really interesting!
Thanks for creating this!
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KiRAWRa In reply to Wuerfelmuffin [2018-03-29 10:43:56 +0000 UTC]
no problem, thanks for reading! <3
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Vehilien [2018-03-05 09:18:19 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much for writing this and still be actively helping people in the comments! I know you're not an expert, but I do have a question. I read a lot about fanart being art containing a character, but what about an actual person like a celebrity?
I make minimalistic art (linework) of celebrities in which I always use a picture for inspiration. I would like to sell my fanart, but of course I don't wish to do it illegally.
Thank you in advance for your opinion on this, I really appreciate it.
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KiRAWRa In reply to Vehilien [2018-03-12 00:01:15 +0000 UTC]
People are generally copyrighted to themselves. So if you wanted to sell artwork of a real person, you'd go about asking that person for permission. HOWEVER, if you're referencing a picture of a celebrity like an actor, and the photo is from a production like a show or movie, then the ownership of that picture is then copyrighted to the franchise owner instead of the actor.
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bongupper [2018-02-21 08:38:59 +0000 UTC]
So for example back in the day there were those gangster dolmation dog parody shirts of almost every cartoon imaginable. Or the graffiti style looney toons characters and disney characters for example?
Or say Nuri Durr’s Hey Arnold characters reimagined as adults?
Those are considered creative adaptations right?
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KiRAWRa In reply to bongupper [2018-02-23 01:27:37 +0000 UTC]
There are a fair number of organizations that support reinterpretations of characters and content as being protected under fair use, but it's really up to you what you consider "safe" to do.
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bongupper In reply to KiRAWRa [2018-03-03 03:44:27 +0000 UTC]
Ok, thanks! I’ll keep that in mind.
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leafturtle [2018-01-23 10:57:50 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much for writing this!!!!
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KiRAWRa In reply to leafturtle [2018-01-30 23:36:01 +0000 UTC]
no problem I hope you found it useful! c:
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leafturtle In reply to KiRAWRa [2018-01-31 03:57:32 +0000 UTC]
I really did!!! Very informative! \^D^/
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KiRAWRa In reply to Bubbletea-the-nerdo [2017-09-16 22:21:47 +0000 UTC]
Since I am not the legal owner of those copyrighted characters, nor am I a professional in copyright law, it would be impossible for me to tell you definitively what is infringement or not. All I can say is that you probably run a small chance of actually getting in trouble if you did decide to sell, depending on what franchise these characters are from.
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kawaiihorsie [2017-08-27 20:57:02 +0000 UTC]
I've drawn musical characters as cats.. i also drew the logo's of musicals that contained humans but with cats..
So, i bassicly drew cartoon cats but they still are clearly the musical characters.
Is it legal to upload and sell this in redbubble?
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KiRAWRa In reply to kawaiihorsie [2017-09-03 10:34:02 +0000 UTC]
I'm not the legal owner of any of those franchises nor am I a professional in copyright law, so it would be impossible for me to tell you what is legal or not. All I can really say is that you probably have a low chance of actually getting in trouble if you did decide to sell it.
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LazyMaggie [2017-08-07 02:36:03 +0000 UTC]
If someone is selling cosplay items that is also illegal right? Or accessories of a show, video game, anime?
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KiRAWRa In reply to LazyMaggie [2017-08-15 09:27:11 +0000 UTC]
Yes, in this case "fanart" refers to any creative medium, not just a drawing. It could be clothing, sculpture, etc
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LazyMaggie In reply to KiRAWRa [2017-11-10 07:58:28 +0000 UTC]
I wonder why people still sell them...
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Cosmic-Gypsea In reply to LazyMaggie [2018-01-03 23:44:02 +0000 UTC]
People do not know that it is illegal to do usually.
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Reginald-Konga [2017-07-23 03:40:17 +0000 UTC]
[Looks at the part about Slander] Wouldn't it be libel if it's in the written word (assuming it's fan art and not a fan film)?
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