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Published: 2011-07-17 18:07:23 +0000 UTC; Views: 546; Favourites: 17; Downloads: 6
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I got very little critical feedback on this, so Iβm resubmitting it to featured. :c Sorry.Anyways, this is a commission and any redlines/critiques/help is appreciated.
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Please please PLEEEAAAASE help me ;;
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This is barely relevant but when I was glancing this over I thought the one on the right had really long dangling balls and I was like oAo; but then I noticed there weren't any, thank god.
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Thatβs too funny. I donβt exactly censor my pictures, but a wouldnβt draw that. lmao
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How I'd personally draw it! I am aware that I have probably made many mistakes too, but I hope it helps? <3
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The dragon on the left... It's 'hips' look a little strange in my opinion, but then I'm not too bright with dragon anatomy XD
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I've gotten a few, but as many as possible is appreciated. c:
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well..I do't really got the taste to make redline but all I can say is watch the paws/legs position in meaning that on the ground, they would float
and also.. the right charcter got a weird toracic cage and neck 
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I'm sorry I can't give you any tips on anatomy.
But I would like to say...
This made me laugh ridiculously hard.
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Well, I'm nowhere near an expert on anatomy, but from what I can see, both of them need to have more muscular legs, if they can rear up like that. Still on the legs, the one on the left has legs that look a little disproportionate. Maybe make them thicker? And I know lots of people have said it but there needs to be more muscle in the tails toward the base. I hope I don't sound like a broken record, but that's just what I see. ^^"
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Well from what I can see, neither creature looks like it really has an abdomen. The bodies are a bit too short. It sort of looks like it goes straight from the ribcage to the hips if ya get what i'm saying. There's no room for all the guts and such! The tail on the male also looks to be placed a bit too high on the rump, and both tails look a bit too skinny to be used for anything other than just showing emotion, tails are often used for balance, rudders, etc, and should sort of look accordingly. So it should probably have a little bit of meat added to it near the base to make it look more natural. (ill try to find the guide where I found this info, it helped me out a LOT)
-I don't know if this is completely true or not, but I have noticed that oftentimes the length of a creature's leg from the shoulder down to the pads is usually the length of their back from the point of the shoulder to the rump/tailbase, or at least somewhere around that distance. On two or three of the legs, they look a bit proportionally too long; although i get you are trying to get a bit of an angle with the leg positioning there, so I might just be being a bit too nitpicky...
OH also, the dragon's' ribcages should probably be a bit more prominent, or possibly have a bit more sucked in bellies because they are rearing up and stretching all that muscle and such out over a larger space. Using the tigers for a reference is good, but cats in general have lots of baggy skin and thick fur around that area so it can be difficult to notice, pictures of dogs playing might be also good to look at.
I'll see if i can redline it a little to help, although I've never actually done it before. (and my anatomy is pretty flawed as well..) I'll have to go create a tinypic account or figure out how to get into my photobucket account lolz
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Thank you for pointing out their short backs! I'm a repeat offender with that, even though I make a conscious not to do it. xD I'll fix it as soon as a get back to my art computer. I don't want to make the tail too thick. A lot of people give dragons thick tails like dinosaurs, which is not what I'm going for. I'm trying to give them more mammalian anatomy.
Thank you for the critique and help! c:
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Ahh, yes, a lot of people do do the dino tails, including me. but the cutbacks you put into them in that picture between the pelvis and the tail do make them look a bit odd to me, but I'm not all that great at mammals tbh D: No problem though 83
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[link] here you go. Added some stuff to, like the male dragon's butt needs a bit more muscle to it, and the female's forward calf needs to be a bit shorter. Sorry its shifted a bit to the right, gimp is so awkward to me and I didn't really know how to make the torsos longer without shifting the entire picture down and to the right a bit.
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Here hope it helps you atleast a little... [link]
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Thanks for the help! β₯
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Are they just random creatures or do they have ref sheets, so I can see what they're meant to look like o3o?
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This is my only reference for them: [link] c:
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I'm not sure this will help, since I'm pretty sure I just went over most of your lines.. [link]
Made a few adjustments to the thickness of the one on the left, but there's something about the chest/stomach area that confuses me XD I also added another arm to the one i lined in green because I thought it looked a bit odd that you could only see one on each of the characters, like they were both holding the other arm right against their bodies - though saying that I did look at the tiger refs you used and they seem to only use one arm anyway.. Iuno.
Long story short, I don't think I've helped much!
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Thank you very much for the help!
Though about the ribcages, what youβve drawn seems way to circular to be natural. Iβve yet to find animals that hold this quality. Ribcages are a bit more oval, long, and tapering. Like this: [link]
See what I mean? c:
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Ha, I see what you mean XD Looking back at the lines I drew I can safely say it does look odd! I like that I was trying to help you but ended up learning something more myself
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Itβs where an artist draws over anotherβs picture to fix errors. The links of them that people have posted on this picture are a few examples.
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lol, i cant help with red lines but i like to argument
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I would love to help, but I'm no good in anatomy either. :/ Sorry! I could try to see if I can ask someone to help though!
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Redlines 4 u: (uploaded on Deviantart Stash, this the weird fav.me link) [link]
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Oh my yours is so much more helpful than mine!
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Thank you very much for the help! β₯
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The both appear to be missing arms. The dragon on the right arm feels to long. The tail on the one of the left is to high. Ok that is all I see. I hope that helps. I think this will be an awesome picture though!
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I may try to help you Β°-Β°
But first I gotta clean my room >w>
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