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Published: 2006-03-17 00:00:35 +0000 UTC; Views: 289; Favourites: 4; Downloads: 14
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Description Same symbol, different meanings.
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Iriesurfinchick [2007-03-08 16:03:21 +0000 UTC]

borrowing this fer my Zen journal ~ todays poem~~u

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Jungle-Jew In reply to Iriesurfinchick [2007-03-08 16:51:52 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much for putting it in your journal my love!

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Iriesurfinchick In reply to Jungle-Jew [2007-03-08 16:54:51 +0000 UTC]

its completely and totally awesome...like..*points at you*

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Jungle-Jew In reply to Iriesurfinchick [2007-03-08 17:07:15 +0000 UTC]

you think that because I'm so much like you.

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Iriesurfinchick In reply to Jungle-Jew [2007-03-08 17:14:16 +0000 UTC]

AMEN sistah!!

okokok IWS just shared this with me....laughter is the best fuckin medicine around...
i gotta share..
and i gotta find the otehr 2 and and and...okokokokok....no really im fine
[link]

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Jungle-Jew In reply to Iriesurfinchick [2007-03-08 17:31:29 +0000 UTC]

hahaha! I don't know who IWS is, but tell 'em that was funny as hell.

Ok, ok... ~noodleboy is always sending me funny ass links, this one has been my favorite...I had to go digging through conversations and other links to find it.. haha...

[link]

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Iriesurfinchick In reply to Jungle-Jew [2007-03-08 17:37:40 +0000 UTC]


ive learend when Im angry..Youtubes the place to be that was great
[link]

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Jungle-Jew In reply to Iriesurfinchick [2007-03-08 17:48:59 +0000 UTC]

ahahahahahaha!!!!

I totally agree... you can always find something HILARIOUS on Youtube... or something really interesting. I found a lot of neat stunt-double stuff and martial art demonstrations on there... it is freaking amazing how these guys can move... one (I'll see if I can find it) had this guy with this weapon, I don't even know what it was, sorta like a mace, but the ball was smaller and he was lying on his back on the ground and spinning this thing around underneath him and like..popping up a little everytime it went under him... so fast. It was a monk, I remember that about it....

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Iriesurfinchick In reply to Jungle-Jew [2007-03-08 18:07:05 +0000 UTC]

I gotta find you the one of my sons hero...(hed kill me but i cant remember his name) Ill ask him when he gets home..its a skateboarder that does streetskating...my jaw drops every time and im all..u dont do that do U?>??? Tre's all..well um ur...

and i wanna sseeeeeeeeeee!!

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riknard [2007-03-01 12:59:59 +0000 UTC]

I believe the swastika symbol was used in some American Indian art, as well as possibly Finnish works, too, but haven't seen info on that in a while. Evocative collection at any rate, makes one think, if nothing else.

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Jungle-Jew In reply to riknard [2007-03-02 01:03:50 +0000 UTC]

the swastika was used in buddhism as a sign of good luck actually.... in a lot of eastern culture as well... this is actually a Nazi medal that my grandfather gave me that he took ....off a body... when he was in WWII.

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riknard In reply to Jungle-Jew [2007-03-02 03:04:23 +0000 UTC]

I'd come across that usage, too, actually, before I remember reading about its use around other places/cultures. It really isn't too far fetched, as it is an interesting and easy progression from two simple crossed lines, and sort of implies a circular flow of a kind. And, yes, I am so sorry that the Nazis used it in one form for their rallying icon. It has ruined many, many people's appreciation of a simple symbol... but I wonder if they had chosen a different one, then they would have besmirched something else for us. All falls down to them ruining this and ruining that... glad you posted this pic. Quite a think-starter.

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Jungle-Jew In reply to riknard [2007-03-04 15:36:14 +0000 UTC]

I think that any symbol that they would have chosen would have been ruined for someone... when my dad was in Vietnam, on short leave, he was traveling around and saw a whole cemetery with headstones with swastikas on them... it is still a symbol of peace and purity for some...even I can see, as you said, the circular flow the symbol creates. Nasty Nazis.

Thanks for thinking about this photo...I think it just offended most people...didn't get much feedback on it.

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LawrenceDeDark [2006-06-16 17:23:43 +0000 UTC]

This is very interesting ... I learned something today. I have always associated that symbol with hatred never knew where it came from (feels ignorant) . I'm still not I will every be able to associate it with anything other than hatred.

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Jungle-Jew In reply to LawrenceDeDark [2006-06-16 19:27:32 +0000 UTC]

Well, the nazis reversed it, so if you go anywhere in the east you'll see tons of swastikas, just going the other direction. When I was at the Bahai House (where Solitary Prayer was taken) I was actually surprised to see swastikas on the design in the interior. There are symbols in the building that represent all the major religions and they used the swastika to represent eastern philosophies. Pokemon may have changed it for the Western Market, but the Bahai's won't. Which there's nothing wrong with, to them(buddhists, hindus, etc.) it means something different.

I think most people in the west associate it with hatred. I sure do. My grandfather took it from someone during WWII. It's the most beautiful and hideous thing I own. I just keep it in a box and I'll give it to my grandkid if I ever have any.
Even seeing them in the Bahai house I was really shocked, and had to think twice before I judged this religion over one symbol.
I have a pin also that he took off a dead nazi's uniform, and I've searched the internet to find out what it is and what it means, but I can't find it anywhere. Oh well.

Thanks for the comment. Sorry for the long babbling response.

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LawrenceDeDark In reply to Jungle-Jew [2006-06-16 19:30:34 +0000 UTC]

I appreciate the informative response.

Where is the Bahai house?

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Jungle-Jew In reply to LawrenceDeDark [2006-06-16 19:38:44 +0000 UTC]

It is in Wilmette, IL. It's about a half an hour from Chicago, and about 20 minutes from where I live. There's also Bahai Houses in South America, Russia, Israel, India, Germany, and Australia.

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TehDarkPredator [2006-03-23 14:36:15 +0000 UTC]

Cool work and good concept...

Did you know that there was a swastika sign in PokΓ©mon, they changed it into something different for the western market...

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Jungle-Jew In reply to TehDarkPredator [2006-03-23 14:40:15 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

No, I didn't know that. That's pretty funny actually. haha. I'm glad they changed it for the western market. hahaha.

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Cherico [2006-03-23 02:55:25 +0000 UTC]

... You know I've gotta comment on this.
The lighting in really nice, as is the concept. Haha that swastika just jumps out at you.... Cant wait to see what "Uncle Steve" has to say about this one hahaha.

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Jungle-Jew In reply to Cherico [2006-03-23 14:27:49 +0000 UTC]

The swastika is meant to jump out at you!!

Not a lot of people like this one. Oh well. I'm glad you do. You have good taste. haha.
I'm quite fond of it.

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bodies-double [2006-03-19 15:46:25 +0000 UTC]

nice shot and concept!

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Jungle-Jew In reply to bodies-double [2006-03-19 19:18:46 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!!

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R-B [2006-03-17 22:26:39 +0000 UTC]

Nicely composed...and yeah, swastika was a Buddhist sign of peace back in the day...funny how innocent signs can be changed so much from dodgy use..

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Jungle-Jew In reply to R-B [2006-03-17 23:01:34 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

Yes, it is funny. When my father was in the service he was in India or something, and they passed a cemetery and there were swastikas on a lot of the gravestones. This was in the late 60's too.

Too bad the Nasty Nazis had to go using it.

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fleetofgypsies [2006-03-17 17:36:53 +0000 UTC]

I heard how the R.C. Church funded the Nazi's (all 'good' Catholics - [supposedly]. You could have found this lot in Eva Braun's jewellery box.. I think (aside from collectors) that's the only place they'd feel at home with each other. Some of us believe he's still alive (Not Hitler!)

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Cloxboy [2006-03-17 07:38:25 +0000 UTC]

Wowzers, that's wild, "good luck.(or was)" lol right. Interesting photo.

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Jungle-Jew In reply to Cloxboy [2006-03-17 14:46:07 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!!!

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ghetto-hippy [2006-03-17 00:07:41 +0000 UTC]

my great-great-grandma had a swastica broach. back then it was just a good luck symbol.

i like the composition of this, and the lighting- especially on the little crucified jesus.

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Jungle-Jew In reply to ghetto-hippy [2006-03-17 00:16:06 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! That swastika was a medal awarded to women for giving birth to sons. It was my grandpa's.

Yeah, the swastika is a sign of good luck.(or was) It still is in some eastern philosophies probably.

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