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Published: 2009-04-14 23:11:55 +0000 UTC; Views: 343; Favourites: 5; Downloads: 9
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This is Veldrin, 's long-standing original character. It's been so long since we did an art-trade but we thought it would be interesting to draw each other's characters. This was mostly brought on by observations of the fact that she has a large pile of manly rugged male characters whilst I have a whole pile of more bishi-like characters.Well, mostly it's just a difference in drawing style, nonetheless, we decided to do a swapsy. The deal is that I draw uber-manly Veldrin and she draws uber-bishi Caramir.
I think I've done an ok deal with my part of the bargain and even though we agreed to be flexibile on time I drew and coloured it all in one day. Oh well, I AM on a bit of an art binge right now. The feather in my cap about this one is that I managed to colour it from start to finish in less time than it took my laptop battery to run out (ok, by ten minutes... but still!).
Again the true resolution is massive so downloa if you dare but I think the full view should be enough.
I do not own or have any right to Veldrin in any way - copyright belongs entirely to
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That's nice. Is it wrong that I want to see some of your characters' reactions to being forced into their Sunday Best now?
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I think it's awesome! I am so in awe of you guys, I wish I could draw, ah well I shall indeed stick to using words which is what I do best *nods*
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Thankee. Well, I do words every day since I did an English BA and am now doing a Creative Writing MA and am looking to go inot Publishing. I just use my drawing to supplement my writing, most of the time. Also it's just nice to have another way of expressing yourself. Historically (though not last year because I was in a really baaaad place emotionally) if I don't have inspiration to write I do have inspiration to draw. It sure beats sitting around going "Gah! I can't think of anything!" at least this way I'm pretty much always doing something creative.
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Hot damn! *squeals* This is awesome! I love how he looks coloured in. (The full view really does his murly hair justice, by the way! Lol, I like that word...murly...)
Hee hee...his chin is manly...*pokes it*
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Hehe. I am also pleased with his murly hair - it is nice and detailed and fluffy and has separate strands and stuff.
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Yeah ^_^ You have no idea (or perhaps you do given our MSN discussion) how long it took me to come up with the perfect hair for Veldrin. I can't believe messy/curly had been staring me in the face for so long yet I continued to give him straight hair.
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His hair has progressively become more and more wild. He used to actually have pretty sleek hair at one point, too.
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Yup. The first incarnation of Veldrin had dead-straight hair down to his arse with a neat centre parting. Then again, the first incarnation of Veldrin was 5'4" and about 100lbs, and didn't wear any leather or camos at all, and he was also a rather meek character. O.O If such a thing can possibly be imagined.
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Yeeeah, that's really different from the way he is now. Hehe. But everybody has to start somewhere.
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Yes, yes they do. And I'm glad I improved upon him.
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Everybody can be improved on. Just because they weren't that great at one point makes it more awesome when you look at how far they've come.
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Yeah. It makes me all the more proud of Veldrin that he started out life so uninteresting and cliche.
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Haha. No cliche beats Moon Princess. ^_^ From the Shadows wasn't far behind.
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Ahh...well, in our defence we WERE only 13.
I was 15 when I first made the first incarnation of Veldrin...
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Yes. Ooooh so young and cliche. The problem is that you aren't really aware of cliches when you're that young - it's just the way things are. It's hard to tell what's original when you haven't been around that much so you take ideas from where you can...... but because you're not up on these things you don't realise that they are really common ideas. That's why they're so easy to come by.
Mh. I was 16 when I wrote Technaffinity. At the time it seemed like a really big thing and I loved it but it was just such a nice self-contained storyline that anything beyond felt really sequally. Whilst my mind went there my writing never did. I tried to write about Namen but it turned out a bit cheese. I love Namen, though. He exists very strongly in my imagination still.
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Yeah...when you're a kid, everything's a learning curve. You write something...you think it's good...a year later you realise it's not. You live and you learn, and by the time you're an adult, you've grown a better understanding of what makes for a good storyline, what's believable and interesting in a character, what's little more than a really bad trope, etc.
Cheese? Cheese like how?
Oh, and your opinion on whether female characters can ever be truly badass?
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I mean, I don't know about you but as I grew as a writer I realised that SO many of my story ideas had been done before. I was a bit annoyed.
Mh, the thing being that Namen had a pretty hard life but as we've mentioned, whining about it never got anybody anywhere. I should have just thrown some sentences at the issue and left it at that and got on with Namen actually moving on with his life and doing something interesting. While there is a story to what happened to him in the past, I shouldn't have started there chronologically and expected it to hold any momentum. It flagged and died because it ended up being such a downer of "hopeful and promising young man has his dreams and his life crushed". Well, Namen wasn't a whiner but the content ended up being whiny. I just didn't like it and it's so hard to write something you don't like.
Oh, I think female characters can be badass, just that none of my female characters have been. I do not have the art of making interesting female characters. Really I should stop myself somewhere at character creation and change the geners of some of my characters. The thing is that their gender doesn't really matter but because I imagined them as a guy I can't help but keep them as a guy because I already completed the picture in my mind. Poimaster Fio could in fact be female without any problems... Finn could easily be female but not Adam. Adivar needs to be a guy but actually Caramir could get by being a girl. See what I mean?
The worst point to be it is when you realise you've gone through the motions and all your characters are male and then you go "shit, I need a girl" but because the gender is the first thing you think of everything gets based on that and the character is shallow. Also because it's an afterthought character they don't get enough attention. Also, the premise "girl" simply doesn't lead to the most awesome ideas that happen to be lurking in my mind. What I need to train myself to do is go "Ok, new character, a guy... he's like this, that, the other, he does that, he thinks this, this is his attitude to stuff.... and he's a girl."
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I know what you mean (can you imagine Veldrin or Lesainar being a girl? Or Melissa being a boy?)...Nediira wasn't a "shit, need a female character and fast!" character; I'd decided I needed a fifth member of the team who was the grunt, also the youngest member, and had anger management issues. And I thought, what if rather than being a young man, this angry young grunt is female? So Nediira happened. Give her five or ten years or so and her badassitude is going to multiply.
I love Nediira, really I do. But I've so often been told that female characters are fit only to fulfil the roles of "femme fatale" or "innocent damsel" and I wondered whether it was even sane of me to make my new female character the Angry Young Grunt/Rookie.
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Yeah. She seems fun and well balanced. You've got an okay attitude to creating characters like that but I can't seem to get out of the habit of leaving my girls till last and in the end I end up axing them anyway because they were just tag-ons anyway.
I must say, though, that the girl char I have lined up for the Sereth thing is pretty badass and has some major anger issues. She spent her chidhood getting exploited and has a really hardened personality. She doesn't open up much and if she gets hurt, even like scratched or something she goes CRAZY because she's so obsessed with the idea of never being a victim again. To be fair, there's not much danger of that considering the way she is now. Improvised weapons are go. Especially the keys. Her nickname is "Keys", even, cuz she uses them that much. She's the only person I know to sharpen her keys regularly. Good for a flail and good as mini pinching-dagger-like things.
Ignore what the hell you've been told. Girls filling those roles and those roles only is just BAD WRITING. Anybody who thinks that's where they belong is a cliche-monger. DEATH TO THE CLICHE-MONGERS!
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Ahh, she sounds quite spiffing. ^_^
I guess so. But then I was told "it's not a trope, it's just the reality about women; they can't be badass and aggressive like men. They're subtle and wiley." And I just sorta lost faith. T_T
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She's one girl character I'm vaguely excited about. She's fairly androgynous-looking, though. In fact, she passes for a boy most of the time because she finds the clothes comfy. Also she is rather mouthy to people in a Revy-like fashion except she doesn't have guns or boobs.
That's just STUPID! People are really different even between genders - if anybody really thinks that about people they've had too many stereotypes drilled into their brain and they've watched a whole bunch of bad America drama and they've started to believe it.
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I like the sound of her. Hmm, you should meet my minor NPC character Narada sometime. She's a scream. Also very androgynous-looking (mainly due to her clothes and also her figure, she's very tall and skinny) and her voice is a bit dubious too. Ahh, she and Captain Alton will have fun with the prank with the ioun stone of gender change.
I'm glad you agree with me. Nediira's gonna be the grunt all she damn well pleases.
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Hehe. I'd like to see her. She sounds fun. Keys is a whole pile of defence-mechanism badassery. She's pretty cool, though. I can imagine Fel falling for her slightly but her just laughing him off because he's not badass enough for her. Aaaaw, poor Fel. He needs to find his own brand of badassery but he's just a jack of all trades.
Wheee! Also you have some strange people giving you bad advice again.
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Ah...I guess I need to learn to filter advice, eh?
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Hehe. Most definitelly. Anything that makes you balk and go "is that really the case?" is probably wrong. Unless they're telling you you're an ok sort of person who's fun to be around and not even slightly fat - that bit's true.
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Yeah; the problem is, when I balk at something and go "is that right?" I often get suspicious that my balking is a sign that what they've just said is an uncomfortable truth that I'm unable to handle...
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Mostly that's just your brain going "man, it would be sad if the world really was like that". That's not that there isn't a grain of truth to it on some level, perhaps, but generalising about ANYTHING is wrong and dangerous. You can't say that EVERY woman/man is like X and EVERY gay person is like Y. Ok, so maybe quite a lot of girls try to attract the opposite sex by fluttering their eyelashes but you KNOW it's not a general truth. How many fully stereotypical people do you know anyway? Anybody who groups people in clumps and expects everybody in that category to adhere to a certain set of rules is BARKING MAD! Because at the end of the day, whatever label you stick on a person's head, they are an individual (if they CHOOSE to be a sheep, that's their problem and as far as I'm concerned they might as well be written off if they can't think for themselves).
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Thank you for your wisdom! ^_^
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