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darkhaven97 [2020-09-19 00:30:53 +0000 UTC]
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darkhaven97 [2019-12-26 04:55:45 +0000 UTC]
Yeah the only reason he was pissed at her was because of the solid hard fact that she'd killed his army and comrades. So he had a rather understandable reason to why he wanted to kill her and not solely because a woman had bested. Unlike stupid Chi Fu who had no right to have her killed after she'd just saved his sorry behind. God did anyone wish that Shan Yu killed him? Or have Shang and the other soldiers had finally had enough of Chi Fu, gang up on him and kill him instead? Too far for a Disney film? Maybe, but it's not like anyone was gonna find out they killed Chi Fu since they were in the middle of nowhere with zero witnesses, all the soldiers agree to not say anything(unless one of them rats Shang out), DNA testing was certainly not a thing in those days and they could just easily lie and make it look like Chi Fu got killed by the Huns.
Also something else I noticed is that Shan Yu first ignored Mulan and saw Shang as the logical target not only because he didn't simply recognize Mulan at first(cuz he thought she'd died back at the mountain)but because he thought she was a concubine. Minutes ago we saw Shan Yu's men not seeing the ''ugly concubines'' as a threat and one of the shirtless ones actually tried being nice before they realised they weren't actually concubines.
I'm under the impression that Shan Yu and his Hun's logic is that for the most part nobody is worthy of being spared on the enemy side. Men, women, children, men that are soldiers, women that are soldiers. Shan Yu might have seen Mulan as a worthy opponent and respects women that are soldiers or women in general but as long if their on the enemy side or not a Hun or not a member of his tribe he still sees them as a threat and has to kill them. But when it comes to concubines it seems him and his men have some sort of code of honor about not harming women that are concubines, even if their on the enemy side.
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rosesandgrapes [2018-11-26 19:37:55 +0000 UTC]
Honestly, I doubt it.
Yao, Ling and Chien-Po also didn't care about Mulan's gender. Yes, they have quite sexist expectation of women but there is no proof Shan Yu doesn't. Maybe Shan Yu dreams of woman who is totally incompetent in every tradiotionally masculine area and worships his manliness( for some reason I don't want to believe in it but I can't deny the possibility of it).
Shan Yu was willing to kill Mulan but it's no proof he is for gender equality. Chi-Fu was willing to kill Mulan too.
He didn't make a sarcastic remake about Mulan's gender but he lost his temper.Β
Maybe Mulan's gender make him even angrier.
Nice work though!
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darkhaven97 In reply to rosesandgrapes [2020-04-08 19:42:16 +0000 UTC]
Shan Yu was just pissed at the general fact that a soldier wiped out his army like anyone would, he was also pissed the same soldier had not died back on the mountain as he'd slashed her. Also he tried to kill Mulan because she was a true general threat and as justice/retribution for his dead army, unlike for the same stupid reasons as Chi Fu who completely ignored that she saved his ass and had avenged all the fallen Chinese soldiers cuz he's a sexist shit.
From Shan Yu's perspective he loses his army to a single soldier so he ''kills'' said soldier as a im taking you down with me if I die, despite his survival and loss he carries on and succeeds in taking the emperor but then his goal is snatched inches away from winning so he's been denied victory twice so he would be even more understandably pissed now but then Mulan reveals she's the soldier meaning the soldier that killed his army not only survived but is right in front of him and denied him victory yet again so Mulan just poured salt in Shan Yu's wound by revealing she's still alive.Β
He might have also been secretly impressed because she was the only worthy challenging opponent he'd faced unlike all the other Chinese soldiers that were petrified by him or just fell way too easily like the ones his army flat out annihilated in the village. Shan Yu was probably thinking ''Damn i'm impressed by your strength and skills soldier, such a shame you are my enemy and I have to kill you, I would be honored to have you as a member of my tribe.
Huns let girls be soldiers and for all we know Shan Yu could have had a warrior wife that he left in charge of the homeland while he went off to China.
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Decepticonspy [2018-02-12 22:41:27 +0000 UTC]
That is because in Hunnic culture, women could own land, fight, and even lead tribes. They had far more rights that Han (Chinese) women.Β
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Decepticonspy In reply to Jimma1300 [2018-02-12 23:06:31 +0000 UTC]
Oh and they could marry and divorce. They were very much like Spartan women. It is funny how cultures historically known for being violent and portrayed as "bad" were more advanced at their time in women's rights. Just kind of realized that now
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Jimma1300 In reply to Decepticonspy [2018-02-13 00:32:50 +0000 UTC]
Disney does like to twist historic things out of proportion in the moviesΒ
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Tito-Mosquito [2017-01-08 02:28:50 +0000 UTC]
Yeah you're right! Β The only thing he cared about was that she destroyed his whole army.
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Jimma1300 In reply to Tito-Mosquito [2017-01-08 03:49:57 +0000 UTC]
Do you have a favourite superhero cartoon?Β
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