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deepgrounduk [2018-10-08 18:23:34 +0000 UTC]

great portrait work

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Irsanna In reply to deepgrounduk [2018-10-09 14:54:39 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much!

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Menkhar [2018-10-08 03:01:32 +0000 UTC]

so dreamy...

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Irsanna In reply to Menkhar [2018-10-09 14:54:58 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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katnor [2018-10-07 19:25:45 +0000 UTC]

Those expressive eyes are really captivating! He looks like a proper Noldo prince otherwise, but the eyes tell of his father's heritage... and the tragedy of his existence.

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Irsanna In reply to katnor [2018-10-09 14:55:44 +0000 UTC]

I didn't think of it like that when I painted. But I like this interpretation!

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akitku [2018-10-06 18:25:58 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful depiction of one of my favourite character, so tragic! I love the addition of the thistles! 

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Irsanna In reply to akitku [2018-10-07 19:14:00 +0000 UTC]

Yes, unhappy boy. Sorry for him.
Thank you very much! 

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FrerinHagsolb [2018-10-06 17:41:54 +0000 UTC]

He looks so agile, the eyes are incredible! The colours are great, it looks a bit like it is painted with watercolour. A wonderful work, Irina!

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Irsanna In reply to FrerinHagsolb [2018-10-07 19:13:10 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much! Yes, I tried to make it like a watercolor)

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GersifGalsana [2018-10-06 13:56:08 +0000 UTC]

Lovely.

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Irsanna In reply to GersifGalsana [2018-10-06 14:01:37 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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Mooroflife [2018-10-06 13:43:39 +0000 UTC]

this is great, such a vivid face...

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Irsanna In reply to Mooroflife [2018-10-06 14:00:54 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!
I will now respond to your previous comment for some time. But now I want to say that I am reading   Liu Cixin's book "The Three-Body Problem". Until the moment I read it, I really like it. It's a beautiful piece. My parents are physicists, I once graduated from a physics and mathematics special school with a diploma with honors and a medal, my husband was a physicist, so for me this topic is so beautiful and interesting) the Book captured me, it is absolutely unambiguously refers to those books that I call "books for one night" - start reading and not stop until you finish. Only bad health, alas, the reason that I have not read it yet (

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Mooroflife In reply to Irsanna [2018-10-06 16:54:25 +0000 UTC]

Wow it's so cool that you used to study physics! You're really versatile - physics, psychology and art! I was fascinated by physics when I was in high school, and I also used to want to be a physicist or an astronomer, but then I decided that I didn't have the brains for it and literature is more my thing, so much easier for me.


"The Three-Body Problem" is the first book of Liu's trilogy, and it's just the beginning, wait till you get to the second and third book, it gets better and better! - and also darker and darker, and the entire universe unfolds before you in the third book I just wrote my masters thesis on Liu Cixin, so Liu's books are still fresh on my mind, I'd be very happy to discuss them with you


I'm sorry to hear about your health, are you currently unwell?





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Irsanna In reply to Mooroflife [2018-10-07 18:47:36 +0000 UTC]

Oh, masters thesis on Liu Cixin that's great! It must be very exciting! I still read the first book, I often get distracted to think) it will be very interesting to discuss what I read with a specialist.
Interesting uncertain unpredictable world of the Game. The first chess, when they were first invented, the Chaturanga, which was played by 4 people, in the game to determine the course  used dice - I thought that this game could be invented in such an Era of Instability, and the modern look it acquired when the world stabilized)

Yes, I'm sick. So I draw, I need to keep busy)

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Mooroflife In reply to Irsanna [2018-10-12 20:35:58 +0000 UTC]

Yeah it took me four months to complete that thesis, basically made me reacquainted with Liu's books because I read them in high school. Though I'm definitely no specialist Liu is getting more and more attention in Chinese academia, it's interesting that when a famous scholar said to Liu in an interview that he read Liu's trilogy three times, Liu replied "it's just science fiction, don't take it so seriously, you don't need to read that many times"

Yes the computer game is probably the most interesting part of the first book. Though I know absolutely nothing about chess...I think the game where people throw dice has just been relegated to children's entertainment.


I guess it would be intruding on privacy to ask about your illness, but I do so hope you'll get better!! And also keep drawing! 

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Irsanna In reply to Mooroflife [2018-10-12 23:39:36 +0000 UTC]

About, there is no, I not think, that about books can be said, that this just science fiction) I psychologist, and I well know, that the, that for foreign real life is so-called "secondary reality", for psyche is space one with it of nature and can more say about its essence, arrangements and laws, than external physical the world. And it can affect the psyche more than the physical world.
In the Liu's book, for example, raises the same problem as in Gnosticism, or in the doctrine the katars, which I mentioned here. These religions believe that everything on this planet is very bad and you can only rely on the world that is outside. Gnostics believe that there, outside the earthly world, ruled by a real God, and all earthly gods are corrupted and are actually demons. I have always liked this doctrine, except for the belief that this world must be destroyed. I think this world, this planet, is deliciously beautiful, and among humans, there are stunningly superior personalities, I can't agree that one can believe in destroying such beautiful things. The same difficulties I have and, for example, with Buddhism, I do not like Nirvana  When everything is ground in a blender enlightenment into one uniform puree... no, I think a certain amount of suffering can be endured in order to avoid it) Liu facilitates this task for himself, because in his book aliens are unambiguously hostile (given that I read only the first book). And yet these are the same human feelings, reflections, experiences that gave rise to, for example, the "Apocalypse" of St. John. Even the coming of Christ can be considered as interference in human Affairs. Here in the book Liu can even see the analogy with the "Legend of the Great Inquisitor " Dostoevsky. Only the absolute hostility of aliens excludes this possibility. 
I apologize very much if my question seems unpleasant to you, but I want to ask you, is Liu's book perceived in China as an apology of the Cultural revolution? After all, the main character really turned out to be an enemy, a traitor and an unreliable element than it was considered by the hunveibins. And it was the shortsightedness and criminal negligence of her future husband and the Commissioner of the station that led to the fact that the planet was in danger. If E destroyed, or deprived of the opportunity to do science, it wouldn't have happened. Did Liu say anything about this? The General constructor of our space program Sergey Korolev was in Stalin's correctional camps. He could have died and once survived only by a miracle. His jaw was broken in three places. The fate of Liu's character resembles that fate and generates the appropriate Association. I apologize for this topic, but you can see on the example of Tolkien, that I read all worthy books very thorough and very analytical) This is how I respect what is worthy of respect.

No, it's not an intruding on privacy, because I was the first to mention it. Thank you very much for your wishes!  

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Mooroflife In reply to Irsanna [2018-10-13 00:34:25 +0000 UTC]

Yes exactly, Tolkien also has this idea of "secondary reality" and "secondary creation," like Tolkien said, if we are prisoners in this reality, shouldn't it be the writer's responsibility to help people escape? Wow the Gnostic belief is really really interesting...thanks for telling me this.


Do you know the British sc-fi author Arthur C. Clarke? If you've read his Childhood's End, you can definitely see the similarity to the Grand Inquisitor story! - higher beings coming to earth interfering with human affairs and all that. I mentioned Arthur C. Clarke because he had tremendous influence on Liu, Liu said himself that all his works are poor imitations of Clarke's works. Liu is of course being self-deprecating, I think he's a better writer than Clarke.


No you asked a very good and relevant question - the Cultural Revolution narrative is a vital part of the book, its shadow looms over the entire trilogy - in a sense. Part of my thesis dealt with this topic. But actually no one dares to be an apologist for the Cultural Revolution in China - everyone, including the Communist Party, sees it as a huge mistake that cost millions their lives and dignity. Liu's narrative on Cultural Revolution was very much written in the tradition of "scar literature" - a literature that came into existence during the 1970s and 80s, which condemned the atrocities of the Cultural Revolution, and also condemned the fact that the Cultural Revolution dehumanzied people - as it did with the main character Ye Wenjie. I think I can see your logic - Ye hated the Cultural Revolution, and she is also the villian, therefore the book is apologetic toward the Cultural Revolution. But I guess for Chinese readers who are more or less familiar with the tradition of "scar literature," they would understand it as thus: the Cultural Revolution is so terrible that it distorted Ye Wenjie's soul and took away her sympathy for mankind, which led to her crime. So the Cultural Revolution is to blame. And the point is, if these scientists were left in peace to do their science, and not be forced to meddle with politics because of how things were during the Cultural Revolution, the alien invasion wouldn't have happened. Liu did say that the Cutlrual Revolution is a ghost he couldn't shake off when he was writing this trilogy. Liu grew up during the later years of the Cutural Revolution, he knows the harm it had done.

So I think the general situation is, that in China everyone agrees that the Cultural Revolution is very bad, but most of us also agree that it's a very unpleasant and somewhat politically sensitive topic, so it's best that we don't talk about it. So I think it's great that an influential writer - and also a writer of fantasy - should incorporate this part of history into his books.

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Irsanna In reply to Mooroflife [2018-10-18 23:04:13 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I read Clark. This is a brilliant piece. I am only very sorry that Clark led everything to the destruction of the planet. It is a pity that he did not use the Flood myth. If he left someone like Noah or Deucalion, then one could get several harvests from one planet)

Yes, that's right. Indeed: wounded wounds. Yes, I can understand that line of thought. We also have several waves of anti-Stalinist literature. But, probably, for me such image of the victim of repressions too cruel.  

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Mooroflife In reply to Irsanna [2018-10-23 15:16:19 +0000 UTC]

I guess it's because in Childhood's End humanity perished to be reborn at the end - so humans are not really destroyed, they're on their way to the next step of evolution, and Clarke still considers it an optimistic ending. I'd say it's more like the Apocalypse than the Deluge.


Yes literature about the Cultural Revolution, or as you said anti-Stalinist, can be very cruel and depressing...nevertheless we still need to read them and not forget history.


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Irsanna In reply to Mooroflife [2018-10-24 22:09:39 +0000 UTC]

That's right, you're right.
Thank you for this conversation, it was very interesting for me, but the comment branches can not last forever)

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Mooroflife In reply to Irsanna [2018-10-24 22:35:46 +0000 UTC]

 

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