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Based on choice number five makutakin.deviantart.com/art/G…There was plenty more I wanted to add to this, but I had a hard time visualizing were to add them. After I get a better idea, I'll submit an updated version. But for now, I hope you like what I have made.
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Yeah, but he was supposed to hit her gemstone, but might’ve been deterred by ruby somehow. (It’s just not shown here.)
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You like the idea of this kinda crossover by any chance?
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Just so you know, I’m the guy who thought this up. I’m the guy who came up with the idea of Star Wars and Steven Universe crossing over with each other. And I have pages of notes on it too. But not much of a real story yet.
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Jesus! That’s brutal! And ruby, well, maybe she could be hanging off Vader’s neck, trying to save her lover, and the other crystal gems could be further away too. Maybe the rebels could be shown running away too somewhere.
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Sapphiree!!!!
Now my favorite ship (Rupphire) and my fave fusion (Garnet) is dead.
RIP Garnet, 2013-2017
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She’s not dead. Sapphire was just poofed, she’ll come back.
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Your precious garnet will not be showing up again! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! (She’ll be back though, I was only kidding.)
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Phew...
Garnet I will hug UUUU
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Yeah. You like my suggestions for it too?
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Yep, I'll see what I can do with them when I get the chance.
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Great, so, which one’s next?
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I might be doing #17 next: The Emperor tempting Pearl with a Holocron.
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You saw what I said about that one, right? I think I sent it in a message to you.
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Yes, but I'm still interested in drawing it as a little non-canon side project.
Then I'll take up #6. Steven and Luke staring out at the sea outside of Beach City, with Luke having an awestruck look on his face.
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Okay, sure. (Also, would you like to hazard a guess as to why Luke’s looking like that?)
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Awestruck. Because he sees a large body of water for the first time, since he lived on a desert planet for most of his life.
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Yes. (Wait, I didn’t put that in the description, did I?)
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Yes you did.
But it was common mistake, so no worries.
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Let me ask something else, I know you and a lot of other people have shown interest in making this idea more than just something in my head or whatever, but, why do you think no one’s done it before? And why haven’t more stories like ours that cross over Star Wars and Steven Universe in a really big, epic way been made yet? Is it because they don’t think the two can fit together well, or is there some other reason we’re missing?
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These are just some of my thoughts as to why there has not been many SU x SW content:
Little to no fanbase at the time: I might be wrong, but I do not think Steven Universe had a big following when it first came out. I never even heard of the show until people started talking about how great the episode Jailbreak and the first half of season 2 were.
Steven Universe is grounded: Even though it gained more popularity in the later seasons, I do not think people saw an expanded universe from it the same way with Star Wars. Since with Steven Universe, we are stuck on Earth most of the time. Not a lot of alien worlds to explore on the Steven Universe side of… well, the universe.
Plot-holes: Combining both series if they followed the exact lore of both universes word by word would lead to many canonical problems. On that note, I do not know why they just do not pick a place to start and branching-off from canon to seal up the plot-holes. It is called fan-fiction for a reason.
Creating new lore: Some writers do not know how to seal up the plot-holes and will have to create new lore, which can be challenging and time-consuming.
Unlimited Power: Before season three, the Diamonds were hyped up to be Godlike beings that can wipe out planets with their raw power. And that can be a problem when writers do not know the limits of power characters from another series are capable of, they could end up overpowering the characters. Or nerfing characters to the point that the reader loses interest. Now that we know what the Diamonds (Blue and Yellow) are capable of so far, it should not be a problem anymore.
Timelines: The first Gem Civil War took place somewhere around 3,900 B.C. where we meet the "younger" versions of the Gems. The events of major lore moments for Star Wars could have taken place 10,000 to 100,000 years before the events of Steven Universe. Making it difficult to find a starting place for the story that lines up perfectly with each other; if they do not want to split from the canon or create new lore.
Critical fanbases: I have been to the dark side of fanbases, and they are not a fun place to be. Especially for Steven Universe, so much hatred generated from fans about a show that about love. That fact scares people away from making fanart and fanfiction because they are afraid of those people seeing it and ripping it apart. As someone who writes other stories, I am scared of those people too, but I have confidence in my skills and will publish what I am passionate about. Sadly, there are many talented people out there who do not have this confidence and are pushed back by the hate and fear.
Well, that is just my thoughts. I am sure there are more reasons, but I cannot think of them right now. I have confidence in our story, and that it will succeed. If we do encounter someone from the negative side, we just ignore them and continue with our Magnum Opus.
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Wow, lots of roadblocks. Even though I really want there to be a crossover between them, I guess I can see why there aren’t too many. And yet, seems like we’re not much closer to making the story now than we were before all this. What do you think our problem is?
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I wasn't trying to discourage you, and I think the story we have is working. But maybe we should put less focus on writing the characters word for word like their source materials, and write them the way that would fit into our story. It's our universe, our lore, our rules. The goal should be to tell the story how we see it, even if we have to change some character traits, or rewrite an established lore. I know it can be scary to change those things because there is always the threat of fanbase backlash.
There is a RWBY fanfic I'm reading called Team ENMY which came out only a couple of months before RWBY season 4 and is still being written. The author found a point to begin, the end season 3, and just wrote from there. Creating new lore for an already established world, new characters for established ones to interact with, and new powers of both OC and established to discover based on what was already known and personal fan theories. Even though season 4 & 5 came around which disproved his lore changes, the author continued to stick with the world he built and told the story he wanted. And it still remains one of the best things I've read.
The lore we made for Gem Wars is ours. Even if it gets disproved by canonical a comic, game, novel, movie or show, we should stay true to the world we built and tell the story the way we want to. I have faith in you, Sam, Burke and the others that this will work.
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Yeah, I guess I’m just not always in the mood I suppose, and even when I am, I don’t do much besides write the ideas. I’m just too scared to upset anyone that I almost feel like i don’t do much at all...
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You do contribute a lot. Hell, if it wasn't your ideas and suggestions of how the story should flow, we would all be lost and would've given up a while back. Don't be too hard on yourself.
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I guess you’re right. And I am pretty hard on myself, a lot actually. (Let me ask something else too, since Star Wars is pretty much a story of good against evil, very black and white, and Steven Universe is kinda more grey and all over the place in terms of that, as well as in characters and their development, do you think that’s another reason why they may not exactly fit together too well? Or people haven’t tried to fit them together all that much? Or maybe that the magic in them is too different from each other? Just my own thoughts I guess...)
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I think because of the morality like you said. I talked to some of my friends about the story and how both fictions have different ways of portraying morality. He gave me some small ideas:
Amp up the "Light Side" for the Crystal Gems and amp up the "Dark Side" for the Homeworld Gems. Having Star Wars black and white morality.
Or make the Jedi characters (Luke) Gray Jedi and the Sith characters (Vader) Light Sith in terms of morality to add some development and interactions with the Steven Universe characters.
I'm kind of leaning towards Gray Jedi and Light Sith, this would also help show the imperfections some of the characters have, like Luke. He's strong with the Force and a nice kid, but he's still a kid and will make mistakes that wont usually align with the side of good, but aren't severe to label him bad either. And would show that the Jedi and Sith aren't as perfect as the picture themselves to be.
With magic, you can pretty much do anything with it. As far as I know the magic in Steven Universe and Star Wars has not limit roof. (Limit Roof: A set limit for how powerful something can become in a fictional world.) So, you can rewrite the rules of those powers to fit the story.
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I see what you mean. Though, I guess I kinda thought that the gems wouldn’t really believe in sides to the force. In fact, a certain line that I devised from the save the light game character Hessonite when she could be fighting Vader (haven’t played it yet, but heard it’s great) but I feel this sums it up nicely:
H: “heh, typical magic organic, always thinking there’s some grand duality to magic, that one side of it is always better, and that they’re always fighting, always trying to outdo the other. Well let me lay down some hard truth to whatever’s left of your organic brain: there is no light side or dark side to magic! It just is, and if you’re not a gem, you’ll never use it right, because you’re not meant to! We’re the only ones who can use it right, and the only ones who should!”
Also, I don’t know if making Vader and Palpatine light Sith really works, as that might conflict with their characters a bit. But that also does conflict with the ideals of SU, so, I dunno... but making Luke grey does make sense, and that does seem to be the direction the films are going anyway, balancing light and dark together, so, why not?
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Nice dialogue, haven't played the game yet myself, but I've seen videos of Hessonite and would fit with her.
Maybe we could make the Mara Jade Centipeetle a Light Sith in terms of morality while she serves under the Empire.
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I suppose. She does seem to fit that way. (Also, I hope we make her romance with Luke well developed. Speaking of, any ideas how we’d get centipeetle into the plot, and have her forcibly fused with Mara Jade, and I guess how and why she’d turn her back on the empire and want to work with the rebels, and fall in love with Luke? Speaking of characters Timothy Zahn created, what might Thrawn do in this tale?)
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I don't write a lot of romance, but I've read Romance novels and fanfics, and some of the best ones in my opinion have the lovers to be have a starting relationship with each other, like long time friends or someone trying to help the other. As the two of them begin to spend more time with each other, they begin to develop a trust that may eventually lead to a relationship. Mara Jade being forced-fused with Centipeetle is going to leave a lot of mental scars that will need help healing and will get that help from both Luke and Steven, but may open up more to Luke since he's a force user like herself.
As for Thrawn, I see him being the one to remind the Gems both Crystal and Homeworld that not all organics should be taken lightly. Using his clever military tactics to even avoid Garnet's future vision and finds a way to get the upper hand, I see Thrawn as someone who terrifies the Gems because of his cunning skills. Also, what if Thrawn is the one to plant the idea of the Empire having Gem half-breeds in their army to help crush all resistances (also believing they will be useful in combating the yuuzhan vong when the time comes) so Thrawn sends some soldiers to Earth to capture a handful of Gems, which includes Centi, and the Emperor chooses some of his Acolytes to be "volunteers" in this experiment, one of which is a young Mara Jade who has untapped potential, waiting to be released.
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Ooooooo, I like the way you think! (I would say though, how could he keep from being discovered by garnet’s future vision? Ysalamiri perhaps? And by that same token, how would he be stopped/killed?)
I guess both Steven and Luke might try to help her, and who knows? Maybe Connie and Steven could help get them together! And Han and Leia as well (Though garnet could do the same with them.) Though, Also, if you remember, Mara Jade is unquestionably loyal to Palpatine, and it might take a hell of a long time to get her to switch sides, even if she’s been combined with centipeetle, who’s been corrupted. (Speaking of, what do you think we should do about corruption? How would they be able to cure it, and is curing it something both Jedi and Sith can do, or is it just one or the other?)
Here’s something else, what might Lando do in this story? He still might betray them, but what else could he do? This next idea may not quite deal with him exactly, but he would suffer from it. If, say, yellow diamond were to come to that galaxy, a little time after the time the empire made it to cloud city, like, right as the heroes are about to escape, and somehow had the time to get around the imperials there, I imagine she might find out what the city does, that being refining Tibanna Gas and distributing it around the galaxy, which is used in a lot of different weapon systems.
So, destroy the facility, and you cut off something that the enemy needs. And she does that by shooting at the anti-gravity devices on the underside of the city, causing it to drop from the sky in a burning wreck, descending below the clouds of Bespin. Even though most of the citizens got out, except maybe Lando’s friend Lobot, and some imperials there, the whole entire mining facility is lost. And understandably, Lando would lose a lot when that happens, including a lot of money and expensive stuff. So, what do you think?
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When Thrawn was killed in the Legends series, it was by his most trusted body guard who stabbed him in the back. So, what if Mara Jade's "redemption" begins with her betraying Thrawn. (Don't know if he'll die, but it'll definitely be something he'll remember.)
I think that corruption can be cured through both the light and dark: The light focuses on clearing the mind, forcing the negativity out through peace and tranquility. While the dark clears the mind through the release of emotions, which considering Mara Jade Centipeetles mental condition, you can imagine how much chaos that would cause.
Yellow Diamond destroying Bespin would be catastrophic, Lando's home being destroyed right before his eyes and losing everything he holds dear.
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Yeah, and perhaps thrawn might get away, and even be a challenge later. (Or maybe he could do something about the Vong. Though, I guess it might make more sense if Mara betrayed Palpatine.)
I guess that makes sense, and maybe that’s how Luke (or Lukeven) cures all the corrupted gems. (I did have a thought that maybe Palpatine, if he were to absorb the power of the diamonds into himself, he could gain the power to corrupt gems himself. He’d probably use the force harvester to do that, I assume you’ve heard of it? I know Anakin destroyed it during the clone wars, but since it was made by Exar Kun, and his spirit resides on the moon of Yavin IV, I’m betting Palpatine might go there to find some way to fight the gems, and get the design of the force harvester from Kun’s spirit, and make his own, using it to drain the diamonds of their power, and taking it for his own. Of course, that does sorta write us into a corner if he does gain that much power, how would they ever stop him?)
Technically, it’s not his home, and it’s just the facility in the planet’s atmosphere, but yeah, that would be pretty horrible for him, even if everyone got out of there, except his friend Lobot.
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Well, since it writes us into a corner maybe we don't use it.
But if we do use it, the Emperor's hubris leads to his demise. Believing he can claim a power that would essentially make him a God ends up destroying him. Like the power is too much for him to handle and his body ends up disintegrating because of it.
Or it ends up being White Diamond who kills him. Maybe along the lines of something like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukqOUs…
My head-canon for White Diamond is that she's just an empress who will do what ever she deems necessary to ensure her Empire continues to thrive, having someone like Palpatine would be a problem. After the Emperors death, White takes her army and her sisters back to Homeworld deciding that their work here is done. Yellow and Blue question if they should leave because they could just kill both the heroes here and now, but White decides that their is no need to start another conflict with Force users and they all leave the Star Wars galaxy.
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I suppose, but I guess, in my own mind and story, even if this is kinda cheesy and maybe a little too storybook ending, I was hoping that because of Palpatine’s deception and cruelty and of the fact that he nearly destroys homeworld (or maybe he does manage to destroy homeworld) that because of him, (And I kinda want him to be the ultimate bad guy of the story, to be worse and maybe ultimately even more powerful, and more importantly, more scheming, manipulative, cunning, and conniving than anyone else in the galaxy) anyway, and in him trying to take their power, the diamonds finally realize the error of their ways, that organic life shouldn’t be underestimated, or looked down upon, but rather the humans and other races there should be seen as allies, equals, and even friends.
Though perhaps it might not just be because of Palpatine’s evil, but also because of Luke’s goodness that they stop being so cold and only concerned with their own authority and empire. Palpatine might try destroying them, and Luke might try to sacrifice his own life to save the diamonds when they’re helpless before the Sith Master, and this makes them think, really think.
(Yeah, I know, seems pretty lame I suppose, but I guess I just wanted to see there be peace and happiness for everyone at the end, not just have this enemy still be out there that could be far worse than the empire that might not have truly sworn off harming organic life, I want them both to have gained something and learned something from this. and that the new republic and the diamond authority, perhaps now called the diamond federation or diamond confederation, or perhaps something similar. That at the end, white diamond and Mon Mothma sign an intergalactic peace treaty to symbolize their cooperation and ability to work together. And that both of them would work together from then on out. Maybe even fight the Yuuzhan Vong together too.)
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That ending could work. White gains respect for organics after this event, and is able to create some sort of peace.
Even if the Crystal Gems agree to the peace I imagine either Garnet and Pearl stepping forward and saying something like: "This won't change past, but this could lead to a better future."
And even if Palpatine absorbs the power of the Diamonds in the end, I still think that underestimating Luke and Steven is going to be his downfall.
Maybe after his defeat, White Diamond still destroys him with her power before turning to the Jedi and Crystal Gems, giving them a respectful gaze.
The Crystal Gems return to Earth in the end, and a new Era has begun in galaxy far, far away.
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Sounds good. Sounds wonderful even! Like the ending of undertale. (Alternatively, Palpatine could drain the diamonds’ power, and put it into some super weapon to destroy both earth and homeworld, and the heroes only have time to save one.)
but we have kinda left blue and yellow out of it, what would they think of all this? I mean, sure, what white says goes, but you think yellow and blue might not really be completely okay with how this all worked out? Or would they see the error of their ways as well? Maybe blue is redeemable, but yellow seems a bit more aggressive. But who knows? Maybe she could turn over a new leaf.
(Here’s something else Palpy could do too. Assuming it was one of the diamonds who shattered Pink, and the emperor finds out about it, Palpatine could threaten them if they don’t reveal the truth about who really shattered pink diamond. And then they finally confess. Meaning that even if he loses, it may well be that none of their loyal subjects will ever completely trust them again. Either way, the Sith Lord wins something.)
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Like with Garnet and Pearl not forgiving the Diamonds for what they did in the past, Yellow and Blue won't forgive them for what happened to Pink, but they'll put their grudges aside if it means some sort of peace. Thought it'll take time, they'll eventually accept it.
While the second ending is plausible, lets wait until we learn more about Pink Diamond and White Diamond before using it.
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Okay. And hopefully the diamonds will have learned to respect organic life, and leave it alone by the end of the story. And that not all organic life is evil, though the Sith certainly are. (I think I did mention somewhere that maybe Palpatine would drain the diamond’s power with the force harvester, and maybe instead of putting it in himself, he could use it to power some big super weapon that might destroy both earth and homeworld. And the heroes only have time to save one.)
They could help them against the Yuuzhan Vong as well, but they might be reluctant to help. Of course, it’s also possible that the new republic might help the diamonds to find alternative resources or something, since they’re running low on them on homeworld.
Or the new republic could do something else to help them, not sure what though. But regardless, You’d think they’d want to help their allies against an invading force of hostile aliens....
Speaking of events happening after ROTJ, are you familiar with the events of the comic Dark Empire? Well, maybe something like that might happen here. Like, when Palpatine dies, instead of going into a Clone of himself, if one of the diamonds is more resentful than the others by the end, maybe his spirit could go inside one of their gemstones, and eventually corrupt them into being evil, and make war against everyone else. What do you think of that?
Plus, it does seem like, even though we are talking a lot about sidious, it seems like we’re ignoring Vader, and his part to play in all this. Yeah, white diamond could destroy Palpatine at the end, but isn’t Vader supposed to do that to make his redemption complete? And if not, what else might he do? Something else, we know that Steven could heal Vader, either with his spit or his tears, but do you think Vader, or rather, Anakin, would want that? Or would he just want to leave his life behind after all the evil he’s done, and just rest forever? Would Steven even have a choice, because he (and Luke) probably wouldn’t help but cry when Anakin’s body is lying before them. So, what might happen then? Would Anakin inevitably become pink like Lars does, or would be just pass into the force to be at peace forever?
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If Homeworld does get the destroyed, and White does make a peace with the Rebel Alliance, it would be a new era for the Authority. Maybe re-titled the Homeworld Republic, and they work to rebuild what was lost on both sides to prepare for the Yuuzhan Vong.
And yes I'm familiar with Dark Empire and maybe it might be Yellow Diamond, who still can't see beyond her biases towards organics and is unable to put her hatred for the Crystal Gems aside which forces White to banish her. Palpatine takes advantage of Yellow's emotions and persuades her to accept the teachings of Dark Side, to get revenge for both of them. And if Palpatine does end up possessing her, maybe its a slow process and Yellow just thinks its a voice in her head.
As for Vader, what if he sacrifices himself to destroy the Force harvester before it targets Earth. Vader is on the verge of death, and Steven is about to heal him when Vader stops him telling him that he wishes to be one with the Force, he asks Luke to remove his helmet so he may see him one last time before dying.
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Yeah! That all sounds good. (I kinda had the same idea about Palpatine and yellow diamond as well.)
I could also see Anakin talking to Steven as well as Luke, apologizing for everything he’s done to him and his friends. And at some point, he saw into Steven’s gemstone, and encountered his mother in there. And tells him that he saw her, and felt her before he dies, that she loves him and loves being him without end.
(And if this is the first time the other gems see Anakin under the suit, I bet amethyst might say something like “always knew you were ugly under there.” The reason why I’m unsure is because they might have hit him pretty hard a few times on other occasions when they fought, and actually broke his mask off of his head and face, and might’ve seen him that way before the final reveal. What do you think?)
Also, I don’t think the force harvester would really target earth, but rather Palpatine would use the energy it had stolen from the diamonds to power a super weapon that would destroy the earth. (Vader could still stop it though. And maybe I even thought that if we could manage it, Palpatine’s death would come from him being thrown into the path of this weapon’s beam or blast or whatever. That’s one epic way to die!)
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