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Available on redbubble!Asriel, Chara (c) Undertale by Toby Fox
Art (c) Me
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Chara you're holding the knives backwards
Chara you're gonna hurt yourself
Chara stop
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Asriel: I picked an entire hillside clean for you, Mom!
Chara: I had to slaughter an entire butcher shop
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REACTS??? WHY NOT???
Bex: Chara, why do you have so many knives? This is really... Creepy.
Chara: S-shut up.
SORRY I JUST LOVE TO REACT WITH THESE TWO!!!
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Held your friends close but your knives CLOSER.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_kv_Xβ¦
YOUR PIC IS IN THE VIDEO!!!
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Thank you for showing me!! 
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Chara is not evil
Yeah they called themselves a demon but
-Asriel called himself βthe ABSOLUTE god of HyperDeathβ even after he regained his feelings
-Sans traumatizes you even if you havenβt done anything wrong
-Asriel wants to kill you 1,000,000 times if that would prevent you from βwinningβ
-YOU. You killed Toriel, Papyrus, Undyne, Muffet, Mettaton (and a LOT of random encounters) AND you tried to kill Monster Kid and Sans(chara does the final blow)
And now why are THEY evil? (Is it because they can punish you for a genocide run!?)
-And undyneΒ attacks you several times even if you are pacifist
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Here Is How I See It( I Agree With You) See Chara, They Is Not Evil Because There Is No Actual Proof That Chara Forced Frisk Into Genocide, Frisk Did That On Their Own, Therefore Forcing Chara To HELP With The Genocide. And As Lore Goes And All The Fan-fics And Stuff. Frisk Doesn't Want To Kill Sans But Chara Doesn't Let Them Give Mercy As A Punishment In Which They Will Stop Genocide. Also, Why Sans? What Is So Special That Makes Frisk Not Want To Kill Sans? Why Not Stop At I Dunno YOUR MOM?!?!? And Papyrus! Hes The Best! And Undyne! Think About All The Cooking Lessons You Could Get! And So On! So Why Sans? But However, I Think It Was Kinda Weird How Chara Killed Flowey, Even Though They Knew It Was Asriel, Or Maybe That Was Frisk And They Regained Control. Also In The End Of Genocide, The Creepy Part, Although It May Not Seem Like It, But Maybe Chara Wanted To Do A Full Reset (Just Like Asriel) So They Could Fix The World Forever. To Start Over. You Know What I Mean, Maybe I Just Say This Because I Love Chara And They Are Definently My Favorite Character And I Know They Aren't Evil Inside. Why Else Would They Give Away Their Soul For The Benefit Of Others? Β Β Β Β Β
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interesting theory C=
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Have you even wondered maybe those knives were for the humans she INTENDED to kill? Or maybe even for herself?
She hated humans, she didnt care about dying in order to be their "angel", and when she fails, and sees the genocide happen, she calls herself a "demon".
AND she does like it when you find the real knife. Maybe she was probably nuts at that point, but the art doesn't show any real sanity in her face so... You can't say this wasn't THAT Chara.
Don't get too upset for no reason, pal. I don't think Chara is bad neither, but she wasn't really "the greatest", tho. Nobody is.
(And Ive grown used to female Chara, since I'm also a girl. My headcanon is that Frisk and Chara are whatever the player thinks they are. I don't care if you think differently, just don't try to argue or I might get a little upset.)
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You have to be on her every picture with Chara with pointing on, that Chara isn't evil? Omfg, no one cares, okay? That's her opinion, and if she thinks that Chara is evil, then that's her opinion.Β
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its not an opinion, its misinterpreting a character
like. am i gonna go call sans evil? fuck no cause its obvious hes not. chara does have a base personality that you can see and they aren't ambiguous to the point you can choose how they act, chara isnt frisk. chara isnt the character you control. its the same with frisk too, honestly. revealed that they were their own character.
i dont understand why people have to twist 'soulless' chara with the chara that was in the past. you know, the one thats not a demon or smth. its like flowey and asriel, asriel isnt the same as he once was, because he lacks a soul. its literally the same fucking thing for chara. you need to remember theyre an child, whos probably like.. idk, 10?????? why the hell would they give a shit about knives. they loved the dreemurrs because they were unlike humanity. just from all this shit already clarified, its obvious chara isnt that bad. you cant choose whether chara is evil or not. thats not how it works. although it can be up for interpretation, (do to not enough evidence) if that interpretation is literal scrapegoating and completely nonsensical, then god no. if thats how that works, asriel might as well be an absolute devil as well
i dont blame her though. everyone just assumes chara is a fucking satanic ritual right when they first meet them
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My theory is that chara just has split personality. Evil and Kind
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No, that's notΒ misinterpreting a character. It's just Β a fucking theory that Chara isn't evil.Β
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Actually it's kinda been confirmed that Chara's not evil. And even if they were just theories, the not-evil side has a lot more evidence in the game.
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Where did Toby confirmed that? Let me see a tweet or something.
Yeah? I still think Chara is evil, after everything you did in Genocide Run. After all... Asriel said himself, that Chara wasn't a good person.
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I think it was Temmie who said "(Chara)? Yeah they're cool" I mean it's not much but if they were a murderous demon or smth then she probably would have said so when asked.
And Azzy said they "weren't the best person" which, after encountering super-good-and-perfect pacifist Frisk, you'd kinda look back on the flaws of anyone. Noone's perfect
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I still didn't get the proof of tweet or something.
Anyways, Chara killed Frisk in Genocide Run and manipulated Asriel.
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Asriel was willing with the plan, wanting to save all of monsterkind with Chara. Only until he saw them suffering so much did he want to go back.
knowyourmeme.com/photos/109282β¦
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Well, the only one thing that needs explaining was why Chara was having a knife.
Also you should read this. If THEORY about Chara is real to you, then you should also read that:
nochocolate.tumblr.com/post/14β¦
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I don't really think that was something to do with being an "idol" to someone.Β
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They cut. They hurt themself. It's near-directly stated that they were suicidal, so it wouldn't be too far-fetched for them to be cutting. Plus, why would they want the knives to hurt others? They hated humans, but there were no humans in the Underground.
Here's a question, why would they want to do genocide? And, if they did, why would they face the player in conflict after a double-genocide, and say they are "wracked with a perverted sentimentality"? Then they directly tell the player to not do the genocide route again. That's pretty solid right there.
If you want to call it a theory, so is yours.
As for the post:
Also, siblings tease. Sometimes playfully, sometimes just to pick at each other. Noone's perfect. Plus, crying is an embarrassing thing regardless of Chara.
They wanted to use their full power when they got to the village to defend them. The humans were killing them and Asriel, and so it was in defense of their brother.
They didn't make Asriel do anything. If your best friend was dying, wouldn't you want to make them happy?
Flowey was likely referring to the Genocide-influenced Chara. Through the player's actions, they grew the idea that murder was the right thing to do, and power was the right thing to pursue. This is the Chara Flowey was talking to.
Not to mention Flowey, reliving the same timeline, and killing those he loved, was likely far from sane.
Anyway, here's the main source of my 'theory'. It's a little long, but explains everything better than I could.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYHXpdβ¦
Plus, it makes for a nice story.
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"They cut." - please. Where's your evidence? Chara maybe was suicidal. For my opinon, Chara wanted to commit suicide because of abuse in the Surface. Maybe even Chara wanted a knife, because they liked them or wanted something to protect themselfs. Chara probably mocked player for doing that, rather than scolding them. You are defending Chara, showing that they are innocent and they are just broken, but that doesn't really excuse them. If they so badly hated humans, then they obviously show that they are worse than them by that.
I never said that the link I gave you is all truth, but it's a theory also. I know that obviously.
" they grew the idea that murder was the right thing to do [...] " do you really think Chara is some stupid child that follows someone's example? Please. They know exactly what they are doing. Chara is not a dumb child, quite the opposite. They talk in such a weird manner, just like a adult would do. I don't think that Chara was influenced by us.
Anyways, I watched that video. It's good and all, but... meh. I still think Chara is the bad guy, because they seem like it the first time you play Undertale. And they seem more interesting being a bad guy than another nice person. It's just so tiring to see people defend Chara. It's just a theory, with some pretty good arguments, but it's still a theory. And the theory about the abuse is not perfect either.
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warning: shit-ton of text ahead
I never said I had direct evidence, but explained that it was a reasonable inference. Guess you forgot to read that part? I'm also not saying they're innocent, but rather are, like many other characters in the game, flawed but with good intentions; and can grow past said flaws with the help of the player. In the Pacifist route, they help you, and learn to look past their mistakes and enjoy themselves and life for what it is, as they see you do with every other character. That's the message of Undertale; it wouldn't make sense for there to be an evil mastermind behind it as the whole game's theme is that anyone can be a good person if they just try, and there's no single cause or person to blame for wrongs. The Geno!Chara theory would go directly against that message.
Children are very impressionable. I'm not saying Chara is stupid, but if you convince them that power is something to pursue at the price of lives, and, more importantly, "feed" them LOVE (which is, remember, quite literally someone's capacity to hurt others), then they will follow.
In addition, you seem to be saying that Chara isn't stupid to believe that murder is okay; in which case, whyyyyy would they be "smarter" to kill so much if they knew it was wrong? Do they just not have morals or something...?
How do they seem like the bad guy in a first playthrough? At all? I can kinda get that feel from the end of the No Mercy run, but that's when, like I said, they've been changed by their experiences and 20 levels of LOVE, so they're long corrupted at that point.
Yeah, it would be tiring to see people defend Chara because debate is generally tiring (to both sides). Believe me, I've challenged Flat Earthers and that's an experience that I wouldn't recommend to nearly anyone.
I actually see it the opposite. They're far more dynamic as a neutral character, and seem like they would make a very one-dimensional villain (who would be, might I add, far outside of Toby's character-writing skillset). They have a much more traumatic and beautiful story to them following JB's explanation.
Geno!Chara is just a theory too, so the always-used "it's just a theory tho!" can't really be used as a reason here.
Also, Undertale runs on theories. Technically speaking, the idea that Alphys's DT experiment was half the origin of Flowey is just a theory, as it's not directly stated but rather heavily hinted, and was never directly confirmed by Toby. So really, JB's explanation could be on the same level of canon considering how much evidence from the game it has to back it up.
Anyways you didn't answer the big question, why would Chara want the Genocide route? They have nothing against Monsters. And why would they hate you for doing the Genocide route twice if they like it?
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Hm. Maybe you're right. Chara IS neutral character. It really depends. I mean, in my headcannon Chara, when died, saw, that nothings matters anymore and decided to kill everyone, because... well, nothing matters. And about that first playthrough: I meant the first impression of Chara to other people. They were definitely afraid or disturbed or something.
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Yeah it depends on the actions of the player as to who they become.
And yeah I think that's the point. They're there to punish you for killing everything, and Toby definitely nailed that creepiness
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Well, it's just pixels, but it's sure is giving creeps!
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And big pixels at that. Same goes for the Amalgamates. Verr spoopy.
honestly did you just agree to get me to shut up
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I mean, I think Amalgamates are pretty creepy and sad, creepier than Chara even.
And meh, I did it because I just agree.
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Yeah, they're really sad and disturbing. And hard to fight. Like I died at least twice in the true lab. I love ya Endogeny but could ya chill out a bit?
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For me, Memoryheads and Reaper Bird thing where scary. I mean, Reaper Bird, I understand, I recognized some of the monsters fused, but... something about Memoryhead very disturbs me.
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Yeah, Memoryhead is messed up. Noone knows for sure what they are...
Endogeny is my favorite and probably one of the most likable, but the battle... the slowly-quickening barking in the background, the shaking and shifting monster, the descriptive battle text... it's all really disturbing >_<
But snowdrake's mom is easily the saddest. "Sno...wy..." ;^; The music for her is good too, it's all distorted and stuff
And i like that there's three faces: two happy ones in the Vegatoids, and one sad one where the vegatoid's mouths are the eyes and the beak is the mouth...
spoopy
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Jeez Alphys what did you do
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