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One day, perhaps, I will make enough just-for-practice drawings and feel comfortable and talented enough to make some actual substantial content for you guys. Until then, have an Alphys. I don't draw her enough, honestly.Coloring is still a massive pain in my patootie but I think I'm on the right track.
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I detect that you didn't get my reference. I was referencing the early '80s Conan movies (which Undyne would totally dig).
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Note: I've been binge-watching classic Nostalgia Critic episodes, so that's just where my mindbrain is lately.
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I think her nervous expression is part of what makes her so adorable. (And I'm sure it's a factor that appeals to Undyne too. 
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Everyone knows Undyne is a chubby chaser.
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I totally agree, hehe. Dorkiness is very cute when pulled off right :3
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Awww - you draw her adorably. 
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Oh, thank you so much! I'm still working really hard on learning how to color, so hearing feedback like that is wonderful!
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I love how you draw Alphys. <3 She's so round and cute and adorable. >v<
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Aww, thank you so much!
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*GASP* Alphyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! She's so cute, gah!!
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Aww, what a cutie...
Seriously, I feel so bad for Alphys the more I learn about her. The tormented soul that she is, not only having to live with her past mistakes, but having to live in isolation, with only her hentai anime and her sex toy robot invention to keep her company. I feel the pain of her social awkwardness, and it's sad knowing that her life's stuck in a pile of moral dilemmas that prevent her from ever really showing her face.
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Yeah, I have insanely mixed feelings about Alphys... even outside of all the moral things going on about her, she's really hard to form a definite opinion on. She's incredibly relatable, certainly, but she's almost too relatable; she makes you see things in her that you don't like about yourself.
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Am I the only person who like Alphys without caveat? I swear, I feel like the only one who's only sympathetic for her...
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Yeah, see... here's the thing:
1. She pretty much conned Asgore into her role as the royal scientist. According to Bratty and Catty, she told Asgore Mettaton was "a robot with a soul" in order to catch his interest, since he needs SOUL power to break the barrier. And considering she had a crush on him, putting two and two together seems to indicate she conned her way into a position she definitely was NOT qualified for just so she could be noticed by him. And the game supports the idea that she did it just for Asgore; in her logs, she keeps saying things like "time to do what Asgore expects me to do" and "Asgore will be disappointed if I don't do this". In other words, she put her vagina ahead of everybody depending on the royal labs to have a competent leader.
2. Yes, I know she had good intentions when she made the Amalgamates, but that doesn't change the fact that it was amazingly irresponsible thing to do. She should have been the better person and said "sorry, Asgore, I don't know how to do this and it should be handled by somebody who knows better". I know it's hard to admit that, but when you have people's lives on the line, you have to be the better person. Not to mention how haphazardly she was waving her Determination syringe around - not only did she accidentally sentence dozens of people to a fate worse than death, she also inadverdently created a time-controlling eldritch abomination forced to endlessly suffer with the memories of an innocent little boy. I know it wasn't on purpose, but when you're a scientist, and you're working with a substance so powerful it can alter time and space and infallibly prevent death, reckless behavior like that is inexcusable.
3. She never apologized for what she did to you throughout the entire time you were in Hotland. What she essentially did was write a real-life self-insert fanfiction she got the center role of in order to stroke her self-esteem. And yes, I get that her self-esteem desperately needs stroking, but that's not an excuse to manipulate and endanger children. The most we get is a "wait, you still want to be friends with me after I did that?" reaction from her, which is seen as a good and noble thing for your character to do, and that's it.
4. She's never given any comeuppance, correction, or criticism for what she did, ever. Everyone in the game loves and acts as if everything about her is perfect, and that's seen as the good and right thing to do. Heck, the game acts as if her feeling bad was a bad thing that needed to be ironed out, as if she was wrong for feeling bad about all the things she did. It's like her depression is being used as a Get Out of Jail Free card. Sorry, I know it's hard to stomach, but even people who are dangerously suicidally depressed still need to answer for the bad things they do.
Honestly, she'd be very hard to like in my book if not for the fact that she very clearly feels guilty for the things she did. And again, I don't hate her at all; I still like her a lot, I just can't like her as much as the other characters because of how sloppy her character arc was and all the unfortunate implications it gives. "It's okay as long as you feel bad about it" just isn't a good lesson, especially if you follow it up with "in fact, don't even feel bad about it; just put a band-aid on it and pretend it never happened."
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While I can understand you having mixed feelings about Alphys, I feel like a lot of your arguments are taken out of context or exaggerated.
1. While it's true that Mettaton was a ghost inside a robot, Alphys didn't completely con Asgore into her role as the Royal Scientist. Yes, Mettaton is a ghost inhabiting a robot, but Alphys still had to make the robot functional in order for it to provide a suitable body for Mettaton, not to mention how complex the EX and NEO forms apparently are, especially with how Mettaton EX powers down if you spare him. If Mettaton wasn't a real robot, then why would he need batteries and why would Alphys be so concerned if he's destroyed? Look at the Mad Dummy; in the Genocide Route, he becomes so angry that he fuses with his dummy body and becomes corporeal, but there's not much that dummies can do. Mettaton's robot body, on the other hand, is a far more suitable corporeal body for him. And don't forget how Alphys managed to reactivate the old puzzles in Hotland and repair your cell phone and turn it into a jetpack. So while Alphys may not be the best biologist, she is definitely an excellent engineer. As for her and Asgore, while she does have a crush on Asgore, it's possible that Mettaton was exaggerating how much she liked him, and OF COURSE she would want to do this for Asgore! He's the freaking king and one of the few characters who actually tried to do something about the barrier problem, and Alphys was willing to help him with his plan and wasn't just "putting her vagina ahead of everyone" like you so nicely put it. Alphys isn't a slutty fangirl, she's a brilliant woman who was misguided in certain places. Asgore was desperate to find a non-violent way to break the barrier, and since Alphys likes him she was more than willing to help him, but she still clearly wanted to help the other monsters as well.
2. You need to keep in mind that Alphys' plan wasn't to create the Amalgamates. It was to give the monsters' souls enough Determination so they would persist after they died. There was no way for anybody to figure out that the Determination would cause the monsters to melt, and the fact that Alphys was able to isolate Determination is impressive enough. And what exactly gave you the idea that she's "haphazardly waving her syringe around?" Determination is tricky stuff that the monsters barely know anything about. Besides, isn't science all about trial and error? As for the monsters' lives on the line, all the monsters that Alphys was experimenting on were already on the verge of death. The game states that they've "fallen down," so they were going to die anyway. It's not like being in a coma. Their families willingly donated their bodies for the sake of science because they were going to die anyway. And yes, maybe Alphys should've admitted her mistakes earlier, but let's be perfectly honest here: if you were in Alphys' place, assuming you know nothing about Undertale's plot, would YOU admit that you made such an awful mistake? Probably not, since it's not an easy thing to admit. Besides, Alphys still takes care of the Amalgamates and feeds them. I feel like a lot of people hate Alphys for the same reason they hate Shinji Ikari from Neon Genesis Evangelion: they're incredibly realistic characters that people see too much of themselves in and they hate seeing their own flaws in fiction. As for Flowey's creation, there was absolutely NO WAY for Alphys to know that that specific flower carried Asriel's essence and that it would cause Flowey to come to life. As a matter of fact, there was no way for anybody in the underground to know this, not even Toriel and Asgore, especially since, again, Determination is pretty much a mystery to the monsters. So it's entirely unfair to pin all the blame on Alphys.
3. I will admit that Alphys could've apologized for what happened in Hotland, but she still makes up for what happened by telling Frisk that they need a monster soul and a human soul in order to cross the barrier. Plus, Frisk was never in any real danger. Everything was completely staged until Mettaton decided to take matters into his own hands, but Alphys still helps you by telling you about Mettaton's secret switch. Regarding the "self-insert fanfic" thing, I once found this interesting idea that Alphys and what happened with her in Hotland is a metaphor for players who are so invested into the games they play (not just with Undertale but with other games). Players mess around with the protagonist and try different things like killing the characters just because they can. I mean, look at all the people who played through the Genocide Route! They experimented with the monsters, too! But then again, it's a very real thing that a lot of players do, and we all know how much people hate to see their flaws in their favorite characters. And regarding Alphys' self-esteem, it's important to remember that Alphys' has crippling depression and anxiety and absolutely hates herself to the point where she's implied to commit suicide in certain endings. I don't know what you're experiences with depression and anxiety are, but when you have one or both of these you can't always think straight and sometimes you'll try anything to eliviate your feelings of self-loathing. And there are far worse things that Alphys could've done, like taking Frisk's soul for instance. Plus, it's implied that Undyne is Alphys' only friend, so there's not a lot of people for Alphys to talk to about her feelings.
4. If you ask me, Alphys' intense feelings of guilt were punishment for her enough. And perhaps she could've face some more consequences like the monsters' families being angry with her before initially, but at the same time it comes off to me as saying that just because Alphys hates herself doesn't mean others hate her, which can honestly be applied to so many people with depression. Also, I could use your exact same argument for Toriel. She was the queen of the monsters and the brains behind King Asgore who ended up abandoning her kingdom for God knows how long only to be welcomed back by the monsters with open arms, and she apparently still has the authority to fire Alphys despite the fact that she essentially reliquished her throne. And unlike Alphys, Toriel never feels any guilt over what she's done or admits that she screwed up, and we're apparently supposed to see her as in the right. Plus, I can think of many Karma Houdinis who did far worse than Alphys and/or had no remorse for their actions and yet completely get away with what they did or are even praised for it (looking at you, Paul from Pokémon, Bill Hawkes from Professor Layton, Bendy from Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, Kangaroo from Horton Hears a Who.... Damn, my favorite fandoms have some pretty crappy characters).
Before I finish, there's two small snippets I just have to point out.
It's okay as long as you feel bad about it" just isn't a good lesson, especially if you follow it up with "in fact, don't even feel bad about it; just put a band-aid on it and pretend it never happened." While the lesson could've been handled better, this is kind of a butchering of what Alphys learns. She still feels bad about what happened, and she doesn't freaking act like it never happened! She admitted to Asgore and the monsters what happened to the Amalgamates! I know you don't mean to, but this makes it seem like you're making Alphys come off as unrepentant when she really isn't. And once again, what about Toriel? She acts like she never abandoned her entire kingdom and left her entire people to drown in despair, and yet nobody ever brings this up.
Sorry, I know it's hard to stomach, but even people who are dangerously suicidally depressed still need to answer for the bad things they do. You need to keep in mind that Alphys had no bad intentions and things just went completely out of hand. And again, people who are dangerously suicidal can't always think straight or logically. Also, here's another character who's dangerously suicidal and did worse things than Alphys: Flowey. People are able to forgive Flowey, so there's no reason to not forgive Alphys. Especially since in some Neutral Endings she becomes so overwhelmed with guilt and depressed that she takes her own life, and I don't think that would be the best ending for her.
I apologize if my response is incredibly long and I seem frustrated, but I had this on my mind for a long time and need to get it out.
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Actually, to add my own two cents in about Toriel (because I agree with you about Alphys and I'm all fired up about this topic; I feel very strongly about it) I don't think Toriel was wrong for leaving the kingdom. Asgore decided he was going to kill innocents out of his own desire for vengeance, and short of killing him, there's not much she could do; the entire monster population was on his side. She couldn't persuade him; he was pretty set, so instead of trying to tear the entire kingdom apart, she just left.
HOWEVER.
She's not free from wrongdoing. Oh boy, is she not free from wrongdoing.
The thing I think is glossed over-- she let the kids who fell into the Underground following that breakup walk to their deaths. She could've insisted they stay or walk them through the Underground, herself. As soon as the first child following Asgore's decree fell, her objection to Asgore's decision had direction. There was something she could do to oppose him; protect the kid. But she did not, and she did not six times. All so that she could stay hidden in the safe little world she'd made for herself.
Worse still, at some point (and we don't know at what point) she tasks Sans, someone who she may have (and to be fair, it's 'may have;' we don't know for certain) been able to perceive as being bogged down by depression and various other issues, with protecting future fallen humans. Instead of squaring up and doing it herself. It's not like she couldn't have asked him "will you help me protect them"; asking to team up would've been more reasonable than "do this thing in my place" and he might've agreed more readily if she'd asked that instead. Instead she passes the buck onto her only friend, which is kind of awful, and even moreso if she did in fact perceive him as not being entirely well.
So ironically, she's... guilty of the exact same thing she (rightfully) accuses her husband of at the end... but nobody actually calls her out on it and she doesn't seem to realize it, herself. And to give Toby the benefit of the doubt, maybe it makes sense for that to happen, storywise; I don't believe anyone there but Sans knows that Toriel has been hiding in a spot where she came into contact with all fallen humans and then despite that tasked someone else with caring for future ones, and maybe Sans has a soft spot for her that convinces him to withold criticism. But I do hope it's addressed in a sequel if we get one, because damn, that was very unfair of her to Asgore, Sans, and those dead kids.
(And I do like Toriel, by the way; she's one of my favorites. Pretty much all of the characters have some major sin- Sans's is a little muddied and open to interpretation depending on how much you think he knows about everything, and Papyrus's is for the same reason, but Alphys's is fairly obvious, as is Asgore's, Toriel's I described here, Mettaton tried to kill a fricking child just to abandon his fans and family and become a star on the surface, and Undyne placed all the evils of potential generations ago on a child's shoulders and stalked them and told them how she was gonna kill them. Neither she nor Mettaton apologize, I don't believe. They've all done some pretty repulsive things but I love them all anyway and just wish these things were addressed. But that's what fanfiction is for!)
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I totally agree with all of this. All of the characters have flaws and have done questionable things, and it's entirely unfair to attack Alphys and Asgore while also praising Toriel and putting her on a pedestal. They could've at least brought it up in the True Pacifist ending, but I guess they were all too busy ganging up on Asgore.
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Well, like I said, I think the only person in any position to recognize her hypocrisy was Sans. Nobody else knew where she'd chosen to live, so to be fair, they had no way of knowing she 100% encountered every single human child and despite that, did nothing to protect them. The only exception is Sans and even he didn't know the only way in to the Underground was via the ruins; Toriel only asked that if one should pass through the Ruins, that he would protect them when they left. Not that such a thing was a huge possibility that he should be ready for.
Sans is sharp, so he may have connected the dots (that there's a giant fucking hole above the Ruins and that people can fall in that way) by himself, but Toriel seems to be one of two people he seems to be any kind of close to-- this is the woman he trusts and loves enough to move in with at the end of a neutral run where his brother is killed- whether platonically or romantically is up to the shippers, but there's no denying that whatever is there, it is strong. So basically this may be one of Sans's sins; he remains quiet on something he might've been able to put the pieces together about because he really, really likes the person who did wrong. For all we know, he confronts her on this in private or bottles it up until they have their first argument.
This is why fanfiction is so important but by golly I really hope we get a sequel.
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That does make a lot of sense. I hope it's addressed in a sequel or the comic Toby's apparently making.
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Apparently in his Kickstarter, Toby Fox said he might make a comic to go along with the game if he gets enough funds. I can't remember all the details, though.
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No, I get all of this. I guess what I should've said was that I feel bad for her for a number of reasons. Y'know how you can feel bad for people making all the wrong decisions? That's the kind of sympathy I have for her, that she was so misguided and so wrong in spite of all her good intentions. It's a weird reason to be sorry for people, but trust me, that sorrow extends to many other people I know. I can't stand what they do, and yet, part of me is sad that they're so misled. Know what I'm saying?
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I guess, kind of? Can you maybe give an example?
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Awww, adorable! The coloring is very nice, and I love the scales on her head tines. :3
How did you get all those polka-dots curved on her body? Texture and warping?
Also, Annoying Dog in the background ftw!
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Thank you very much! I'm still getting the hang of coloring so any feedback at all is very appreciated
What I did was duplicate the dress layer, gave it a polka dot pattern, rasterized the layer, selected and deleted the negative space between the spots (the original pattern had dots + negative space), then warped it. There's probably a more straight-forward way I could have done it, but, I am still learning
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Then I think I succeeded, hehe.
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