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Published: 2005-07-10 06:45:56 +0000 UTC; Views: 1829; Favourites: 53; Downloads: 165
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This little drawing was inspired by last weekend's trip to the lake.I'm not fat, but I'm not some bone-thin little teeny-bopper model-wannabe. I am a woman. I'm in my mid-twenties - therefore, I have CURVES. I'm sick to death of this push to be Paris Hilton or Jessica Simpson. Real women just don't LOOK LIKE THAT. When you're a teenager, you're going to be thin and gangly, but mark my words - once you're done with college, you'll look like me. Laugh at me now, but you'll look this way, or even worse.
WTF ever happened to the 90's? Jesus. Give me back my teenage years, when it was hip to wear big baggy clothes and flannel shirts. I hate this "lets be a slut" trend that's been going on lately. Even if I DID have a perfect body, I'd sure as hell be modest about it. *muttergrumblesnarl*
Regardless, we were at the lake -me modestly clad in a black tankini- and I just felt... FAT and HIDEOUS.
bleh. I should have named this piece "Insecurity II" or something.
inks and character (c) S.Miller 2005
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I like your pic. and i agree with you all(all the ones i read). im 5ft 11in. at 140lbs at 15 and im a guy and id rather have more weight than i do now. i dont really care where it is. society places so much on weight and body figure that it perverts the beauty of being human. I will proudly proclaim that i like women this size, if not a tad bigger, having curves is natural, and if you dont, you're just a skeleton(myself included in that, dont take offence you skinny peoples) I hardly take my shirt off at beaches cause of the way society is nowdays.
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tour right real women have curvs, but the slut trend thing, well its just a look, its not bad
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I agree. Women are supposed to have curves. The starved model/skeleton look has always creeped me out.
Then again, in Paris Hilton's case, she's thin from all the coke she snorts.
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There's no reason to feel ashamed of your body.
I personally think that picture of your fursona is kinda cute.
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Hehe, very cute, in a sad way. Like another one of your pieces, her sadness makes you want to give 'er a warm hug of comfort. Nicely done, even if it is just lineart.
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I've recently lost quite a bit of weight (enough to drop four pants sizes), but being the hourglassy chick I am, it doesn't matter how much weight I could lose; these hips and boobs are going nowhere. I couldn't be more at ease with that. I'm not at all looking to get rail-thin. If somebody wants to call me fat, fine, go right ahead and fuck you very much. I'm not fat, and I've had no plastic surgery whatsoever. I'm built this way. And I like it.
[/rant] I love the lineart. The way you draw ears is splendiferous. I just wish she didn't look so bummed out. Fat? NO. Lovely and talented? But of course.
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Heck, I'd ask the girl in the picture out, at least if I was an anthro or she was human (although the ability to smile IS important).
Believe it or not this feeling affects guys too, no one talks about though because as men we are just suppose to shut up and deal with it, because speaking on the subject for guys is seen as 'unmanly'. I know I feel this way about myself all the time, I am 6'2" and 260 lbs. so I am the human version of a bulldozer or a dump truck, very useful and strong but no one wants to look at ya.
Personally I like women of almost all heights, size, and so forth, to me it is persona and common interesy that carries the most 'weight' so to speak. How do you convince a lady you genuinely think she is beautiful when she sees herself as fat or dumpy, seriously I want to know for I know several (and one very important lady in particular) who think like this. Advice please to us guys!
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Thanks!
That anthro is my pen and ink form... it makes me feel good to hear that!
It affects men too, but there isn't quite the push for men to be rails (although Brad Pitt IS omnipresent these days... *shudder* I think he's icky!). Still, it has to be even harder for guys, especially when they can't be open about it.
My ex was this tiny little guy. He was about 5'5" and 115 lbs. At one point, I outweighed him by 50 lbs. I thought I was attracted to him, but he started working out and he got really.... vain. It was awful. He then took to criticizing me about my weight - making fun of me, pushing me to diet, and dangling skinny cheerleaders in my face. Talk about living hell!
For such reasons, I'm really wary of vain people.... and skanky girls who think they're all that and a bag of chips.
It might look good, but there's nothing inside.
My mate has the cutest little belly. He hates it, but I adore it. It's so soft and cuddly. It's so much better when there's something nice to cuddle and hold. ^_^
I honestly don't know how to convince a lady to believe she is beautiful when she feels like that. I'm horribly sad about my state of size... if I do get cured, I'll be sure to pass it along! *lol*
I will tell you what works for me though. Tell her that she's beautiful every day. If you're with her, hold her and cuddle the soft spots.... tell her how much you love that part about her. And especially for you - you draw such beautiful pinup girls... why not draw a gorgeous pin-up of her to show her that she's lovely?
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Hey, I'm just home for the weekend Foxy, but I saw this and I just wanted to say how much I love your more insecure pictures for the fact that it's not of the norm. You somehow capture the emotion so well while keeping it from being cliche angsty and still managing to show that the character is by no means ugly. I think I'm going to save this one just for the fact that it's one of my favorite plain inks pieces by you.
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well, society puts emphasis on looking like a twig... unless your a guy. I've not that stupid skin-and-bones-twiggy-no-muscle look going (can't help it) and so I feel like a twiggy weakling when I go to the beach. yippy.
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Y'know, I am about sick of that idea too! I mean so much emphasis is put on how you're SUPPOSED to look that it's almost like a passive aggressive form of being bullied. Sure back on the playground bullies did some good in toughening up the weaker kids and teaching some to stand up for themselves (eventually) but I still think it's bullshit the way the world around us preaches "THIN IS IN!"
Lindsey Lohan and Nicole Ritchie just look sick, Kate Moss was the butt of many jokes and MadTV skits and if it weren't for the implants Pamela Anderson probably wouldn't have ever had a career. It's that whole "we look good so we're better than you" mentality.
*I* take personal offense to that because for my last 4 years in the Marines I was targeted daily for my weight. At 5'8" I should weigh no more than 174 lbs and frankly at my THINNEST I was barely under that. I was one of the Squadron's Top Ten PFT'ers yet I was one of their 'disgusting fat bodies' as the company gunny liked to say. The only problem I've had was trying to mismatch uniforms with a 52 coat and 36 trousers. That and I sink like a rock trying to swim, lol!
Needless to say, I never fit into that cookie-cutter ideal that the Marines wanted me to be in even though there were others that stretched the buttons on their coat so badly, they looked like a grenade about to explode, lol!
I just don't think personal appearance equates sexy. One can be slim and trim and still be ugly if they have a bad personality. However, someone morbidly obese probably shouldn't wear a speedo to the beach. A little extra fluffiness can be sexy if you carry yourself right and that means having the right attitude about it and in my honest opinion if this pic resembles you in RL, then you're gorgeous.
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My mind's a little weird when it comes to that...
If I know the person/character is fictional and they have a fantasy figure, then I think they're okay.
If I know the person/character is fictional and they have real-life proportions, then I think they're fat. If it's a real person whom I acknowledge as not being a model and they have real-life proportions, then I think they're okay.
So for me, it depends on whether the girl in question is fictional/model or not. I seen you draw some of your characters in realistic figure. I would say they look fat to me, but only because they're fictional characters so I have a higher expectation when it comes to figure. However, if they were real people, I'd say they look alright. I wouldn't say they were fat at all.
Even in my fictional standards, Fennec in this piece doesn't look all that bad. If your body looks anything like that, I'd say you are very attractive.
One reason I draw women (men too) having perfect physique is because I feel it captures their inter-beauty, which I feel is more important than their outer-beauty. I suppose another way to look at it is a transference between the real and fictional world, so the people won't look fat in my fictional standards.
Referencing what you're saying, it seems to work the same way for guys. I'm no lean machine, but I'm certainly not fat. I eat almost nothing (The largest meal I had today was a microwavable sausage biscuit with cheese). The only reason I look fabby is because I don't excercise. I'm more mind than body, which is probably why I like the Internet so much. However, I'm not sure if most girls are interested in such a concept. I never had a girlfriend. Then again, I'm introverted, too lazy to shave, and my parents keep forgetting to cut my hair, so this hypothus is flawed. Eitherway, I suppose I could say that society standards have made me not proud of my torso. I refuse to go without a shirt, even in my own home.
This picture looks pretty nice. Maybe the outfit itself contributed to your feeling? Certain outfits can even make supermodels look fat.
I also would like to comment with my scientific view. I noticed that the aspects of male sexual attraction towards females seem to revolve around a certain primal question of "is this female most suitable for reproduction?" Breasts, hips, body, legs...all these parts have some relation in baring children. Large breasts would be more suitable for feeding young. Shapely hips would benefit in baring children. A lean body would make the subject more able to survive in the primal environment. So, what IS natural sexiness? Just being more able to make babies, nothing more. Unfortunately, people confuse this with beauty. So just because the person doesn't have a large pert rack and a nice booty, they think the person isn't beautiful. That's not true. You don't have to be sexy to be beautiful and sometimes, someone can sexy with no beauty at all. X_x However, I feel it is possible to be considered sexy because you're beautiful.
So, there's my two cents...*Looks at the length* Maybe more like a quarter.
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if you have curves, celebrate them. i'm not exactly a twig, but i feel no shame wearing a bikini. i understandthe modesty thing. i don't even like my shirt creeping up above my jeans and exposing skin. but there's a difference b/w being slutty and just being happy in your skin. find that middleground and set up camp for awhile.
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I'm sick of all that bullshit about what beauty looks like. I'm sick of people being so shallow.
Honestly, looks don't matter to me. And they really shouldn't to anyone else.. but the way society is.. heh, they do.
Anyway, beautiful peice. And I love the meaning behind it, because I fully agree with that.
I don't know if this was intended, but I think the black and white really gets the message across better than if it were coloured. (Not that anything is wrong with your colouring style, it's beautiful.)
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Media stereotypes. Tisk. No "normal" person wants to look like a mummy, and all those Barbie dolls flitting about on TV and in magazines make me want to punch someone...but, I won't let them get to me enough to want anything different than my big-bootied, small-breasted self. Be proud of yourself! Curvy is good!
And hooray for plaid
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A peice in black and white; there's something I haven't seen from you in a while. The inking techniques used here are - what's an adjective I haven't used yet - vivid, they really draw out the emotion. The expression on Juliana matches this so well.
Don't tell me someone said something negative to you.
I can sympathize with this - I'm familiar with feeling alienated by your appearence. Don't worry about the rest of the world; There are always those who will care about you for exactly who you are; no one else matters.
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I totally agree.
The media makes it then 'in' thing to be anorexic. Even in clothing stores the y push the bigger number sized clothing to smaller sized clothes---so even the size i wear fits about 1/2 the time now.... plus they never model after a chubby girl... so clothing never fits the way it should anymore.
Guys don't want to hug a bag of bones, they want curves....so I don't get this whole idea of being a skeleton.
Feh.
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coolness! LOVE the ears and the expression. very well done!
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The end of the world is the world itself. Let us defy that with what is just and right.
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awww she looks so sad, just want to cheer her up!
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Sarah, I've seen your picture in your gallery and trust me, you are not fat and you are not hideous. But I understand how you feel. Almost every day I feel insecure like that, especially since I was in a class of scrawny little sluts. And I don't have the privilage of being thin, even though I am a teenager *sarcastic laughter* Life is cruel. Like you, I'm not really fat, just overweight, and I'm working on that, but I can't stand it how the media pushes the message, "Be a twig and you'll be beautiful." It makes me feel as though I'll never be good enough, and it really tears me up. But it's good to have a medium-sized body. At least we don't look like we've been in prison for the last 10 years, wasting away. Besides, there are all kinds of beautiful. Now that I'm done with my rant, time for the compliments: Very lovely picture. The style does seem different, but looks great nevertheless. I'm going to honor it by making it my first favorite.
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Hey, thanks for your kind comments and for the fave. 
There needs to be a fat revolution, swear to GOD. Some fat chicks need to kidnap Jessica Simpson, Lindsey Lohan, and every other scrawny little b*tch that starves themself for beauty.... and force feed them lard. Evil, I know.
A lot of people really ARE naturally thin. I admire them for that. I find beauty in all sizes, but NOT when it's forced. I have no sympathy for anorexics. It sounds harsh, but there is NO excuse for potentially killing yourself in the name of hotness.
Any more, I think that the chubbier chicks are more attractive. I have a hard time NOT making anything I draw look a little chubby and squeezably soft!
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The pose and expression really capture the image of someone who's listening to the mean spirited voice in the back of their head. You shouldn't listen to that voice though, because you're fine.
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ok. I am a 36-30-34 17 year old. Even when I was in good shape, I was still a 36-24-32. I have always looked overweight. It bother me, but I decided that---well...caring is pointless. I am happy wearing my onepiece with shorts. And if anybody is offende by me? well...7-3-7 blonde bimbos offend me. Be happy with who you are. You will always be your best friend, and if you hate yourself, then that isn't good.
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Very cute ^^ Sides, with me, if me see bellybutton, me happy 
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Aww, I've never seen you draw in this style before. It seems different somehow. But I really like it! ^^
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I know what you mean.. :/ I'm pretty much the same way. I'm not overweight, but Goddess knows I feel it.
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I think you should be very comfortable with your body, cause women with curves will always be better then some skinny person.
-Nocturne-
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Right now I'm tall and lanky - just 125lbs at 5ft 10! But when I get to my twenties I suppose I'll start to be a bit wider... The only thing that makes me different is that I'm a man!!
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eh i know how you feel, apparently the "hourglass" shape isnt in any more whic is what i am, only im quite thickset on muh thighs ^^ anyhoo i don't care Everybody is beautiful just the way they are!
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Nice job!!
I won't repeat what all has been said before
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Very nice work on this one. I feel a bit sad that you felt so out of place. It is a lousy way how things have twisted themselves about. Historically, looking like a twig meant you were going to die and having a bit of meat on the bone meant you were in a good family. Try your best to just enjoy who you are and to hell with what anyone else would think. Even if the media and movies decide that toothpick women and abs-of-steel men are the only way yous hould be, the reality is most of us aren't.
If you like a small laugh though, my younger sister was never the skinny type in high school. However, she could body slam most guys and make them regret any foul words, so it works out! I'm very proud of her.
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Don't feel too bad about your body, I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. I'm thin, yes, but I'm also nigh on shapeless, plus I tend to wear baggy t-shirts (and have small boobs O.o). I've been mistaken for a guy once or twice. I get a good laugh from people reacting to my appearance, and you shoud be proud of how you look. Judging from that picture, you're hardly fat, more like average. That's a good thing, no?
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Well, that's just it! Real women *do* have curves. I mean, it helps to have a proper diet and exercise at least three times a week (preferrably more), but...women just don't look attractive being skin and bones. I don't mind a little padding, and a nice way to fill out is to build a little muscle tone, too. I guess that's true for both men and women.
I draw some of my characters with a bit of a tummy, because, well, with their proportions, it almost looks a little weird not to, if that makes sense.
Anyway, I do like the pensive look on her face. I think it's her expression, and the placement of her ears. (Cute earring, with the dangly star!) I think you did a good job at showing that she is not rail thin. Good job!
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Great lineart. Can't wait to see this colored.
I do know the feeling, though. In seventh grade I wasn't fat or anything, but I was still larger than most of the girls in my grade and began thinking I actually was "fat." Though I've changed my mind about that now considerably, it's still really annoying to have a woman like Jessica Simpson be considered "curvy" and to see Lindsay Lohan go from looking like a healthy redhead to a starved, washed-out blonde.
Although it's been my experience that the "stick-thin" beauty ideal is more prevelant among white female celebs than famous black women. I mean, look at Beyonce and Oprah! They're much larger in comparison to Paris Hilton but are still considered very beautiful. Of course, there's still the BS idea that black women with naturally kinky hair should straighten it. >>
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Bah, I'm a rulebreaker. I push the envelope and dress modestly! ^^ Who cares what's cool? Wear what makes you happy. ^_~
I'm a bad person to talk to about the body-thing, 'cause I'm one of those people who thinks it's all beautiful. Skinny people, heavy-set people, curvacious girls, flat girls,... they all have their own kind of beauty, and it's beauty that's different for each and can't really be compared to or better than the others, in my opinion. It's interesting; the more people I know, the more I find that no one is *truly* happy with their body. I have heavyset friends who complain that they're fat, I have skinny friends who complain that they have no meat on their bones. I have short friends who wish they were taller, I have tall friends who wish they were shorter. While I complained of being a twig-like weakling, one of my friends complained to me about how she hated how muscular her legs were.
Take what you have and see the beauty in it; the ideal that everyone strives for doesn't exist.
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Women should have curves. That media profile that most women think guys want is wrong.
I use to be insecure about being thin (17 yrs old, 130lbs, 5'10") and not being muscular. I don't care so much anymore either way, especially since I can lift a 20' aluminum walkboard over my head and walk with it.
Good drawing, the line art looks superb, and the hatching does as well.
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people look better with curves.
soceity sucks it's why I don't join in with it.
*huggles the cute curvy fennec*
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Ya.. my number one biggest peeve about all humans is that we bend too much to societies stupid, steriotyped laws and rules.
And hey, be glad you have the body that you do. If I were in your position I wouldn't give that up to do the 'teenage slut dress' thing for the world. Keep being you.
And for the piccy.. nice bits of shading with it, this is VERY strong lineart.
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Here here... I am not the typical 20 year old hunk of a guy that is portrayed in the media and I hate having to try and be expected to be thin and buff. The curves in a woman are beautiful unlike the thin forms that that media enstills on our society. It's beautiful and graceful, not to mention art as well. Someone overly thin just doesn't look right or healthy for that matter.
I like the picture and the more natural look that she has, her expression just speaks volumes. I wanna ink like that...
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The emotions that you can see in this picture really stand out, especially in the way you have your eyes cast down and ur arm around ur chest... but sarah, you're not fat, you're just.. normal
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Wow...so I'm not the only one that happened to. I used to be very skinny...but I have "curves" now...nice pic tho
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It's a nice picture. I wish I had hands like yours. Way to draw. And about the insecurity, don't worry so much. I know it gets hard. We all have our weaknesses. And it's not so hopeless. It seems plenty of people don't like those skin-and-bones-if-not-for-the-guts girls. I know I don't.
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I have one of those bodies that "real women don't have" minus the large tits (mine are normal) and I get crap for it as much as larger (normal?) gals. Lots and lots of negative things. I don't diet or do anything to get this way and it hurts what people will say to me about it. Things range from my eatting disorders (which I don't have and never have had) to jealousy (which I think is so stupid because it always comes frome people I think are beautiful). It drives me crazy. ._.
I'm pretty insecure, though. I wear a bathing suit that covers most of my body and I cover up even more with my sarong. I don't want people staring.
Nice picture, though! Will you color it?
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Oh! I really don't want you to feel slighted by my comments/drawing ;_; The difference is - you're naturally thin! That's a beautiful thing! Honestly, I know what you went through, because when I was in high school, I was really thin, and people used to say mean things to me, too.
That's so sad that you have to cover up like that! Sad Foxy! Neither of us should have to hide like we do... I wish society would change...I miss the way things were (cause I don't remember it being so important to be small when I was a teen...)
*pokes herself* Of course, I want my body to go back to the way it was, too
Oh! And yea, I'm going to color this once I get a free hour or two
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I sorta know a similar feeling (Even though being a guy, I still can't help but think that I could be so much better/more muscular/thinner/taller/etc.) So, though I won't say I know exactly what you're feeling, I will say that I hope you get to feeling better.
Yeah... a 17-year-old kid that's 5' 10" and 140lbs... And even I think that I could lose some weight... Thank you society for making even me insecure.
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Heh, I wear a T-shirt and swim trunks to go swimming, and I'm a kinda-fat chick that hates normal girl swimwear. Fuck those stupid prissy cuntwads. We're REAL women, RAWR!
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Ugh, I know the feeling. You don't have to go to school with all those sluts. If you're not anorexic, you're hated. Period. Or if you're over 100 lbs.
I'm 135, 5'1, and goddamn proud!
...Sorry. Power moment there. Love the drawing, I just wanna hug you. ^^
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Yeah, it's true that society puts WAY too much emphasis on looking like a twig. I can totally understand this whole thing. I'm an 18 year old guy who is expected to look like some boy band star or something just because I used to do gymnastics, but I'm kinda chunky around the middle, so I can hardly ever take my shirt off in public for fear of being ridiculed. But anyway, about the pic, this piece definitely captures the insecurities we all have at one point or another in our lives about our looks. I think you did a wonderful job on the picture, and all I can say is fuck American society and idealistic views of beauty! If you don't think everyone is beautiful in their own way, you have a problem! With that said, I shall end my post and favorite this just for the sheer facts that it's a great piece, and I can totally relate to the feelings you're having.
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