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ErsbethShadowsong — The Spectre and Archangel 111

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Description While doing this page I noticed that Kaidan's lips are extremely hard to do right (for me at least) and that lights have given me a lot of work to get them more or less right. Besides, I'm not extremely happy with the anatomy, but now I know I have to work more on all of that, so not a terrible loss

 Thanks to   for his beta-read!


Chapter 13 - The E-mail (I)
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Mass Effect characters belong to Bioware.

I’ve been reading many ME fanfics for a good while, so if anyone spots something familiar, do tell me and I’ll be delighted to quote the author+fic that inspired it. 

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to ??? [2015-03-13 14:38:39 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I'm so glad that you like it... I want to work more on human anatomy in the incoming pages.
I'm also experimenting with different PS brushes, so... expect differences from page 115 onwards

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tala87 [2014-08-12 21:00:34 +0000 UTC]

The anatomy is awesome!

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to tala87 [2014-08-14 09:36:11 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! But it was really hard to get, I must work harder on it

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ShadowSSJ [2014-08-12 19:30:36 +0000 UTC]

Besides, the members of the concil are a bunch of [censured] :-P

The art is stiil as great as usual

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to ShadowSSJ [2014-08-14 09:37:10 +0000 UTC]

Yep, I agree with that one: they could have paid more attention to Shepard and the remains of Sovereign.

Thank you!

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Xhydralisk [2014-08-10 04:11:30 +0000 UTC]

Heehee! This is awesome. Oh, Kaidan, why do you have to be so sexy? I swoon at your sultry voice.

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to Xhydralisk [2014-08-14 09:37:51 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!
Good question, very good question!

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Dalinne [2014-08-09 14:49:54 +0000 UTC]

ME ENCANTA! Todo este Flashback es FABULOSO. Yo siempre defenderé a Kaidan, porque como personaje en el ME1 fue GENIAL y su romance con Shepard está muy bien llevado. Peeero... me temo que en el ME2 los guionistas querían que no nos sintiéramos mal de pasar página con un nuevo romance y convirtieron a Kaidan y a Ashley en unos cenutrios que NO TE ESCUCHAN ni atienden a razones U.U  (qué raaaaro, Liara es la única de los tres con la que te hacen sentir mal a ti si pasas página... cómo se notan los favoritismos, buuuu!!!). Pero bueno, ¿para qué me voy a engañar? En el fondo me encantó porque le dio drama al asunto y para mí, Garrus es irresistible XDDD

En fin, volviendo al comic, PRECIOSO, muy bien escogida la escena, argumentalmente muy bien traída con el momento del email (me tienes intrigada por lo que vas a hacer), y tu maestría con el dibujo cada vez me sorprende más. Kaidan muy logrado. Fan total de este comic <3 <3

PD: siento mi bipolaridad, que tan pronto te hablo en español como en inglés XDDDD

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to Dalinne [2014-08-14 09:49:17 +0000 UTC]

Gracias! Me alegro que te haya gustado el flashback! La verdad es que para la época en la que se hizo el juego, el romance estaba bastante bien, pero no sé qué debieron de cenar los guionistas cuando escribieron su parte en ME2, algo que no les acabó de sentar bien, seguro. (favoritismos con Liara? No sé de qué hablas, son imaginaciones tuyas! ) Ahí, ahí estoy de acuerdo contigo: tener la oportunidad de ver el romance con Garrus, a pesar de que nos quedamos con el dulce cabezazo al final del romance... sigh... si es que en el fondo, nos gustó y todo.

En los primeros esbozos del storyboard, la parte del e-mail estaba menos trabajada y era más directa, pero en una de las múltiples revisiones, me di cuenta que tal y como estaba, quedaba cojo el tema, y pensé en mostrar que entre Kaidan y Shepard había habido algo, que no era todo un "me enfurruño y ale, que te den". Y también porque, después de escribir Horizonte, me sentí realmente mal por Kaidan. Jopetas, es que por mucho que nos dé en los higadillos, han pasado dos años! Yo no espero que cuando alguien muera, vuelva milagrosamente a la vida. Vamos, que reharía mi vida. Y, vétetu a saber qué información filtró el Hombre Ilusorio. No quiero justificar a Kaidan, pero al menos, darle un poco de cuartel y mostrar otro posible punto de vista.

No veas lo que cuesta dibujar a Kaidan! Esos labios... cada vez que hago un boceto, parece una DragQueen!

PD: Nah, tranquila, yo también cambio de idioma ya casi sin pensar.

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Dalinne In reply to ErsbethShadowsong [2014-08-21 14:33:32 +0000 UTC]

Muy buena decisión entonces lo de profundizar en el email y el personaje de Kaidan Hubiera sido TAN fácil dejar a Alenko de lado y no volver a retomarlo... pero eso le hubiera restado credibilidad a la importancia que tuvo la relación Shepard-Alenko en el primer ME. Además, si digo que hubiera sido "lo fácil" me refiero también a que como lectores, no ver el punto de vista de Kaidan nos habría resultado muy cómodo emocionalmente, y no, ¡se nos tiene que hacer sufrir un poco!!   Porque, al fin de cuentas (como bien dijo el gran filósofo drell, el señor Krios) se puede amar a más de una persona en tu vida... y más si esa otra persona es Archangel!!! <3

Los labios de hombre son supercomplicados de dibujar, como las malditas pestañas! :S Parece que a poco que se insinuan se está dibujando a una mujer >.<  Pero no te preocupes porque en tu caso no parece nada DragQueen, ha salido muy logrado

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to Dalinne [2014-08-25 17:35:31 +0000 UTC]

Gracias! Sí, es la opción más sencilla, pero ver diferentes visiones... ayuda a ver el conjunto mejor. O al menos, esa es mi opinión Por supuesto! Ver que Shepard tenía una vida antes de su muerte, es algo que me gustaría poder reflejar más, y también las repercusiones que eso ha tenido... En el juego, lo van mencionando, pero casi parece un chiste más al final... El Sr. Krios es un gran pensador (y personaje): claro que se puede amar a más de una persona! No por ello has de odiar a los anteriores, simplemente, dejas de amarlos como pareja, puedes seguir apreciándolos como amigos... o no!

Uff... en general, las pestañas de los hombres en los dibujos son fatales para mi... en cuanto las pongo: blam, todos se convierten en protagonistas de A Wong Foo, Gracias por Todo Julie Newman. Bueno, no parece DragQueen esta versión! Las anteriores que ha debajo de los debajos daban miedo!

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Lalakahn [2014-08-09 05:50:16 +0000 UTC]

Ohhhhh el ultimo cuadro... el detalle en los labios!! Woooo!!     

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to Lalakahn [2014-08-11 21:44:52 +0000 UTC]

Me alegro que te guste!

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BloodAngelsCaptain1 [2014-08-09 05:18:42 +0000 UTC]

When Joker interrupts this scene, I wanted to go up and make him break his legs by running a mile.
(not really ^^)


SO sorry for the late comment Ersbeth. Great to see another update

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to BloodAngelsCaptain1 [2014-08-14 09:39:05 +0000 UTC]

I had that same feeling, believe me. I think that's the reason I jumped in my seat when Anderson punched Udina -a little revenge time for my Shepard, after the ambassador back-stab.

Hey, no problem! I appreciate that you comment, no matter when you do it! Take care and send my regards to Alexis!

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tastylee [2014-08-09 00:45:44 +0000 UTC]

Just keep em coming ersbethshadowsong

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to tastylee [2014-08-11 21:46:02 +0000 UTC]

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chibi-elicia [2014-08-07 04:31:35 +0000 UTC]

I literally just beat Mass Effect 3 30 minutes ago so this is helping me take my mind off the painful ending. Thanks!
And you're art is amazing!!!

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to chibi-elicia [2014-08-11 21:45:54 +0000 UTC]

Ouch... That ending... yes, I remember how it was for me... 
No problem! Thank you for passing by and commenting!

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NicoAkikaze [2014-08-07 02:22:53 +0000 UTC]

*fainted*

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to NicoAkikaze [2014-08-11 21:45:21 +0000 UTC]

*fans NicoAkikaze *

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GuardianAngel01 [2014-08-06 22:02:01 +0000 UTC]

I think my biggest problem with Kaiden is he's Carth Onasi from KotoR. Right down to his overblown over-reacting on Horizon. It felt like Bioware looked at the female LI and said, "Well... Carth was okay, and we have the same VA, sooo... let's make him Carth."

He's someone with trust and betrayal issues, who leaps to conclusions, with a history of violence. Kaiden always struck me as the creepy stalker type, and his reaction on Horizon (where any sane person who claimed to have a deep love for someone would be overjoyed) only reinforced that. Garrus is happy to see Shepard. Liara is happy to see Shepard. Tali is happy to see Shepard, and it's really crap circumstances. Kaiden just watched her bust her ass to try and save the colony he failed to protect, this woman he claims to love... and instantly goes into full on betrayed stalker mode, even if you have Garrus with you (who should have stepped up and decked Kaiden). Terrible *terrible* writing for his character.

It got to the point that on each subsequent playthrough Kaiden goes down in flames on Virmire, because Ashley's xenophobia is easier to stomach that Kaiden's faux romantic interest and poor writing.

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to GuardianAngel01 [2014-08-06 22:59:15 +0000 UTC]

I recently read an article stating this same thing. For me it was the other way around, as I played KOTOR after ME1&2. I didn't have a lot of love left for Kaidan in that time and hearing the same voice in the shape of (rather bipolar) Carth was not the best experience. I've had the feeling that Bioware tend to look at the female LI and say: "anything will work: a Biotic alien chic who everyone will love, another Biotic guy how has all his feelings undercontrol, a dying assassin, an unfaithful guy and the demanded turian LI, scarred and unsure of his actions". I feel a little out as female player, but that's another discussion.

I still want to think that Kaidan at Horizon had a bad (bad bad) writer, but after two years thinking that your loved one had died (and you had left her there) and all of the sudden she re-appears... Initially they hug but as soon as Shepard opens her mouth, hell seems to break loose. Oh, I had Garrus in my team, and his intervention was... like nothing? I understand (now, after A LOT of thinking) that he could have feel left out from a bigger picture (maybe Shepard infiltrating Cerberus to attack from the inside?) and who knows which kind of info TIM has leaked: he himself says he had been spreading rumors and Kaidan mentions the Alliance had reports. What kind of irks me is why Kaidan was not taken by the Collectors and where he was during the fight: did he saw Shepard and team fighting? If so, why he didn't fight along? If he was in stasis and was free at that moment, why we don't see other colonists approaching? Bad writing again?

I understand you motivations to Virmire Kaidan, but as I find hard to stand Ash, so I tend to do the other way around... However, that's kind of the 'good' part of the game: you don't have to really like all the characters: you can let them die or get rid of them in different ways.

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Marethyn [2014-08-06 18:27:11 +0000 UTC]

I love that feeling when I'm away from dA for a while, come back and see a new page from you! Great work, can't wait to see more.

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to Marethyn [2014-08-06 21:41:15 +0000 UTC]

I love to read your comments after you're back!
Thanks! I'm working on more

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Maskydoo [2014-08-05 20:42:08 +0000 UTC]

Ok, I'm back from fan-girling out. Basically, this is freaking amazing. It's good to see what Shapard and Kaidan once were to each-other, it makes Horizon and Alchera have more weight, and it makes Shepard's reaction to it all make a lot more sense. It's good to be reminded that Shepard has a life before, one that's gone now, as she moves forward with her new life with new goals and new priorities. It's also interesting to see that this memory is coming back now, so I'm excited to see where you plan to go with it. Keep it up! I can't wait to see more!

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to Maskydoo [2014-08-06 21:40:36 +0000 UTC]

Well, thank you so much for mentioning it! I think I mentioned this early, but I want to start working on the storyboard of a little Shenko story and show more what they were to each other and how they both have changed from that time to the current story line. 
You'll see where this takes in the next page, which I hope to post next week (?) I hope you like it ;D

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Maskydoo In reply to ErsbethShadowsong [2014-08-07 01:35:38 +0000 UTC]

OOOOOH I am so looking forward to that!

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to Maskydoo [2014-08-08 17:13:34 +0000 UTC]

Note to self: write faster!

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Hiddenfaithy [2014-08-04 08:44:25 +0000 UTC]

Holy crap she's short!

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to Hiddenfaithy [2014-08-06 21:35:41 +0000 UTC]

Now that you mention it, she looks like she is! I was thinking that neither of them are standing correctly (knees bend and hips not straight)

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Hiddenfaithy In reply to ErsbethShadowsong [2014-08-06 21:49:48 +0000 UTC]

The height difference wouldn't have been as great if they /both/ were doing it.

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to Hiddenfaithy [2014-08-11 18:12:05 +0000 UTC]

Noted!

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Hiddenfaithy In reply to ErsbethShadowsong [2014-08-11 18:26:50 +0000 UTC]

Still a fantastic page! Love to see how they once were.

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to Hiddenfaithy [2014-08-11 21:39:19 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! (for the comment and feedback )

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ShreiaFallon [2014-08-04 03:19:12 +0000 UTC]

....... My heart melted!

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to ShreiaFallon [2014-08-06 21:34:47 +0000 UTC]

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GLAD0Sisaspy [2014-08-04 02:25:19 +0000 UTC]

Awwww

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to GLAD0Sisaspy [2014-08-06 21:34:39 +0000 UTC]

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CaptBuck98 [2014-08-03 23:57:22 +0000 UTC]

Ah were gonna get some kissy face here . . . there is no way this moment can be ruined, not even by a snobby caffeinated flight lieutenant whos likes to spy on the Commander

This is one of those "forgotten" moments from the first game, I did wish they allowed the VS(non-romanced) or even a friendly Liara to comfort Shepard . . . of course if Garrus was . . . . then . . . well . . . .  .

And the anatomy is spot on girl, don't "hate" yourself

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to CaptBuck98 [2014-08-06 21:34:34 +0000 UTC]

Not exactly... you'll see Oooh, I remembered that I wanted to shake a little Joker for that interruption!!

Yeah, I share that feeling. It would have been nice to have a crew member (even non-LI) to comfort Shepard. Maybe the one who had been more in the ground team?

Thanks! But Kaidan's arms gave me a lot of trouble. I must work more on the anatomy

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laureen14 In reply to ErsbethShadowsong [2014-08-07 20:30:13 +0000 UTC]

hoo i'm so exited !!!! ^^

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to laureen14 [2014-08-08 17:09:49 +0000 UTC]

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laureen14 [2014-08-03 23:33:37 +0000 UTC]

there a sequel or not?

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to laureen14 [2014-08-04 12:40:01 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry but I don't understand.

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laureen14 In reply to ErsbethShadowsong [2014-08-04 13:51:26 +0000 UTC]

sorry my english is so bad ^^

when next page your comic ? 

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to laureen14 [2014-08-04 19:57:55 +0000 UTC]

No problem

As soon as it is finished!

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laureen14 In reply to ErsbethShadowsong [2014-08-05 11:42:44 +0000 UTC]

thank you!!!!!! I am happy !!!  

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ErsbethShadowsong In reply to laureen14 [2014-08-06 21:32:18 +0000 UTC]

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