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EramNightreign In reply to ??? [2020-02-18 06:30:49 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I made this chart before Death Battle even existed.
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Zunachina [2013-11-03 03:26:18 +0000 UTC]
the fuq?
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Zunachina In reply to Zunachina [2013-11-03 03:26:48 +0000 UTC]
(the twins and last one)
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bigbulbasaur [2013-05-24 21:52:10 +0000 UTC]
yeah... I was confused about the time line...
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Jose215 [2011-07-07 22:02:38 +0000 UTC]
dude that simplified everything!
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EramNightreign In reply to Jose215 [2011-07-08 01:11:07 +0000 UTC]
V3 should make it even simpler, check it out
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ShiroKusakabe [2011-01-31 02:25:48 +0000 UTC]
what can I say... i always thinked of megamand legends as a spin-off, but this maked it... WOW
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math-wolf1z [2011-01-16 14:34:55 +0000 UTC]
in this also you forgot the megaman zx advent
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EramNightreign In reply to math-wolf1z [2011-01-20 04:59:33 +0000 UTC]
Actually, Vent and Aile are representing the entire Biometal saga. (The ZX subseries) Version 3 will have them half-sized with Grey and Ashe under them.
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math-wolf1z In reply to EramNightreign [2011-01-20 13:05:53 +0000 UTC]
yes but even if they enter into a separate group because it is a story parallel to normal megaman zx
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EramNightreign In reply to math-wolf1z [2011-01-20 16:28:02 +0000 UTC]
Um... what? Parallel to... Megaman ZX and Megaman ZX Advent aren't parallel! They happen one after the other!
The only thing "parallel" here is that if Aile survives her and Vent's Maverick raid/Giro takes her along on the mission, Ashe dies, and if he takes Vent/ Vent lives through the maverick rid, Grey dies.
Still not sure where the timeline split is, the maverick raid or Vent/Aile going on the mission. If Aeolus's Cipher is any indication, the mission is where the split happens.
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Bryantium [2011-01-15 18:55:28 +0000 UTC]
interesting. i thought they were separate universes completely. like final fantasies. but this makes more sense i think
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EramNightreign In reply to Bryantium [2011-01-20 05:09:20 +0000 UTC]
Nope. Pay close enough attention and you'll see the interconnections.
Classic -> X
Dr.Light builds X [Source: X1 opening title sequence and Day of Sigma's flashback scene] and Wily builds Zero. [Source: Mega Man (Arcade) 2: The Power Fighters ending and X4's entire Zero story)
X -> Zero
If you can't see how the X and Zero series connect, you've never played the damn series.
Zero -> ZX
Prairie is all but confirmed to be Allouette from the Resistance. [Source: LOOK IN HER FRIGGIN ROOM'S BACKGROUND! YOU MUST BE BLIND TO NOT SEE IT!!] And Ciel made the Biometal. [Source: Cutscene background while "Prairie" tells Aile of her "Sis"]
ZX -> ?????? -> Legends
Confirmed by Word of God. Not quite sure how, but Legends is indeed confirmed by KEIJI INAFUNE HIMSELF to be the end of the current robot line.
BN -> SF
I haven't personally played SF at all, but from what I can tell, it's explicitly stated that this is correct somewhere in those games. If you can prove it wrong, and the CAPCOM-Unity MegaMan boards back you up on it, I'll revise this in Version 3.
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Bryantium In reply to EramNightreign [2011-01-20 06:05:02 +0000 UTC]
hey i believe you. i'm more a fan of the game play and music than the story. i just thought this was an interesting chart
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EramNightreign In reply to Bryantium [2011-01-20 16:30:38 +0000 UTC]
Ah, s'cool then. I also value the gameplay/music highly. I just decided to make this after seeing the bad ending to X5. Version 2 came about as a result of a fact-check.
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Ninmast [2010-07-15 18:36:54 +0000 UTC]
I would also point out that the Master was fleeing Terra (or a similar planet) to avoid the destruction of the others. There were no other humans that went with him, he was the last survivor. The "anthro units" we hear about were actually Proto-Carbons, the Master's attempt to use his science to rejuvenate his race and return it from the brink of extinction.
You are correct that the issues with Elysium (called Eden in the first game) were that the systems originally put in place to monitor and correct the growing Carbon culture to ensure their success was eventually outgrown and became a hindrance. One Mother Unit, Yuna, recognized this, while Sera fought to keep the system in place, becoming the villainess that the Master essentially sicced Megaman Trigger on.
The Master, on the other hand, after many centuries, perhaps millennia, of life aboard Elysium, whose utopian environment and technology prevented him from aging, spent watching the growing Carbons, felt longing in his heart to return to those people and bid Trigger farewell after giving him that final instruction, to live his last now-mortal days out among them.
Everything else you pretty much got right. The flood covered the Earth, though it isn't clear if this was the original catastrophe or, as implied by the end of Legends 2, it was their own technology (Mavericks, perhaps?) that led to their extinction. Yuna mentions to Sera at the end that the Old System had started coming back online, implying that it was something big and dangerous, having existed before the present system that Sera had been fighting to keep going, and thus possibly even before Eden/Elysium, itself.
I will point out that Trigger was specifically noted to be a high-ranking "Purifier" model. Thus, like his predecessor X, rather than like the original Rock, he was designed to be a soldier rather than just a civilian who was then modified for combat.
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EramNightreign In reply to Ninmast [2010-07-17 07:50:04 +0000 UTC]
One problem in your comment: X wasn't designed to be a soldier. Light designed him with options for pretty much any path the Fates chose for him. Likely, the Megabuster Mk.17 was originally intended for self-defense, or as a countermeasure in case of any Wily bots with a construction timeline similar to X's (Zero).
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GranOmega-7 In reply to EramNightreign [2015-07-11 01:19:02 +0000 UTC]
exactly x was programmed to choose his own path in life. the dash boot capsule with its hologram of dr. light even says so.
light hoped x would choose a peaceful path but with when sigma went maverick x was destined to fight it seemed.
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Ninmast In reply to EramNightreign [2010-07-19 19:06:03 +0000 UTC]
I would also point out that Protoman died due to a flaw in either his power supply or power distribution systems. Dr. Light had offered to fix it, but Protoman turned him down, so we can safely assume it was eventually fatal, as Light said it would be.
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Ninmast In reply to EramNightreign [2010-07-19 18:57:14 +0000 UTC]
My point was that he was designed with that possibility in mind from the beginning, as opposed to Rock who was originally designed as a civilian and was then modified for combat.
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Egnoramus [2010-07-06 02:11:20 +0000 UTC]
actually.. in the Legends series.. the X series is a popular Anime/Manga. its a different timeline
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EramNightreign In reply to Egnoramus [2010-07-06 04:32:43 +0000 UTC]
Or X-series became an epic legend of the ages.
How do you explain the X-buster and Zetsabre(Z-Saber) being in Legends, then?
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Egnoramus In reply to EramNightreign [2010-07-06 04:47:54 +0000 UTC]
Roll was a big fan of the Megaman series. her love for it turned into the inspiration that created the buster and the sabre.
plus.. if its in the future... then why isn't civilization as advanced as it was in the other MM games?
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EramNightreign In reply to Egnoramus [2010-07-06 15:58:44 +0000 UTC]
Thing is, Volnutt FOUND THE SABRE IN THE RUINS. and the X-Buster WAS IN THE GANG'S JUNKPILE.
If you'd played the games, you'd know there was an apocalyptic event that flooded the world.
Please shut up, you don't know what you're talking about.
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GranOmega-7 In reply to EramNightreign [2015-07-11 01:15:48 +0000 UTC]
but the question is how exactly did master thomas flood the world following zx advent? did he melt glaciers or polarcaps or something?
we'll likely never know since capcom doesn't care about the megaman franchise much less the black sheep of them all... the legends series. all capcom cares about now is whoring out street fighter updates/sequels again and again, disrespecting its fandom, or abusing dlc over and over.
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EramNightreign In reply to GranOmega-7 [2015-07-12 15:48:45 +0000 UTC]
The worst part about MML3 getting pulled? Protoman was slated to appear, dethroning Zero as the longest-lived Robot in the Robot Timeline.
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GranOmega-7 In reply to EramNightreign [2015-07-18 20:14:03 +0000 UTC]
i never heard that before. but would be the classic protoman or a new incarnation call protoman trigger in keeping with him being megaman older brother?
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EramNightreign In reply to GranOmega-7 [2015-08-06 03:28:39 +0000 UTC]
It was supposed to be the original red badass. From Classic
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GranOmega-7 In reply to EramNightreign [2015-08-07 20:02:24 +0000 UTC]
oh i thought it was a new version of proto man like the netnavi from battle network. like how there's roll, roll casket, and roll EXE. i thought it was a rendition of legends megaman's brother.
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GranOmega-7 In reply to EramNightreign [2015-08-10 23:32:52 +0000 UTC]
wonder if legends will ever introduce a protoman trigger? doubt it considering capcom despises the megaman game franchise right now and the legends even more so. its the black sheep of the blue bomber's legacy (i don't think the legends series was that bad/its very underrated)
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Egnoramus In reply to EramNightreign [2010-07-06 16:07:56 +0000 UTC]
all you needed to do was explain that. i didn't know about the apocalyptic flood. i also wasn't trying to piss you off. think about that and cool off before you reply.
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EramNightreign In reply to Egnoramus [2010-07-06 20:28:55 +0000 UTC]
People talking about things they don't know about just pisses me off. I've clocked a few guys who said they caught Celebi in Red.
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Egnoramus In reply to EramNightreign [2010-07-06 20:35:27 +0000 UTC]
sorry.. all you had to do was explain that.. and that would've ended it there.
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Flame-G102 [2010-05-23 03:10:07 +0000 UTC]
Nobody knows what happened to the original cast. it would be incorrect to say "they died off". I mean, after all, Auto WAS in X3. Suffice to say something happened, but we dont know what. just fast forward to X series.
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EramNightreign In reply to Flame-G102 [2010-07-07 03:49:18 +0000 UTC]
Well, if they didn't die off, where the hell are they in MMX?
We know Rock died at least... by his own hand. He killed Quint, who is his reprogrammed future self.
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Flame-G102 In reply to EramNightreign [2010-07-11 21:10:16 +0000 UTC]
The future is not set in stone. Quint coming back in time singe handedly altered the present day Rock's future. Because Rock knows how Quint came to be, he will not be caught off guard.
Seperate time streams. Quint and Rockman Shadow both come from the same one. But thats not the same future that the current classic cast will move towards.
So All because that future exists in its own timeline, does not mean it will happen in the actual one.
Also, from Zero to ZX is 200 years, not 100.
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EramNightreign In reply to Flame-G102 [2011-01-20 05:26:18 +0000 UTC]
I just now realized. You never answered me in where the hell the classic cast is if they didn't die off.
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Flame-G102 In reply to EramNightreign [2011-01-20 17:43:08 +0000 UTC]
Wow. late reply is extremely late, much?
Who knows. Maybe they are still around and simply not fighting. Maybe they went off into space with Duo. Maybe they did die off.
Nobody can really say. But we must think of it this way. The Classic series is a lighthearted romp through fun little themed places that honestly make little sense in reality sometimes. However, we know that Rock will ALWAYS prevail. Him and the classic cast will never be killed off by Zero, or any such thing. Why? because its just such a lighthearted cast, it does not deserve a grim ending to their tale. suffice to say they are simply not around to help their brother during the X series.
But really, who knows?
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EramNightreign In reply to Flame-G102 [2010-07-11 22:21:42 +0000 UTC]
Your response has been noted and will be integrated in to Volume 3.
Thank you for your logic.
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ADHedgehog [2010-01-19 18:55:44 +0000 UTC]
I'd like to point out, so you can add this to your timeline theory, that Mega Man kills himself after battling himself as Quint in Mega Man II (GB). No one knows what actually happens to him in the end, but I say he killed himself.
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EramNightreign In reply to ADHedgehog [2010-01-28 03:01:54 +0000 UTC]
Time paradox!
If he did that, Quint would never come to be, and thus Megaman wouldn't kill himself. Endless cycle, universe resets, you never exist to cause said paradox.
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ADHedgehog In reply to EramNightreign [2010-01-28 13:56:17 +0000 UTC]
Sorry, my miswording, Mega Man didn't kill 'himself' himself, but Mega Man DID kill 'Quint' himself. Since Quint was from the future, then I'm sure it was destined for Mega Man to be his own destroyer. Though why Wily didn't do what he did to catch a more experienced Mega Man to the present Mega Man is beyond me, no wonder Bob and George mocked his stupidity.
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