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Description And now a question to all of you.

Is it a hit???

Ryanair claims that they didnt had any accidents and refused to comment even on the Pilots outstanding performance.

According to the IAA it was because of the angle under which I took the picture. They claim that it was all safe.

So tell me....

Is it a near miss?
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Comments: 51

TSResort [2023-08-16 02:39:21 +0000 UTC]

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ArtiGil [2013-06-10 09:48:02 +0000 UTC]

Pas d'accident, Ok, mais un peu scabreux tout de même

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doctorreplen [2010-11-17 21:53:54 +0000 UTC]

Good strong nose wheel there!!
Well caught photo!
I have flown with Ryanair once and didn't crash, so I can't complain.
These "incidents" are, I think quite common.
I remember at Heathrow airport a Qantas 747 aborting a landing at the last minute(literally). The 747 seemed to hang in the air above terminal 2 with the engines roaring like thunder for what felt like ages.
In 2002 I went plane spotting to Frankfurt and I was amazed at the planes coming in almost sideways then flicking forwards at the last minute. Or they would change their landing approach at the last minute like cars lane-changing on a motorway!

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accidentallyartistic [2010-11-17 05:34:47 +0000 UTC]

Looks like a near engine explosion to me.

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meganbednarz [2010-11-17 05:19:47 +0000 UTC]

*wince*

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focallength [2010-11-17 05:09:21 +0000 UTC]

Looks like a bad crosswind kicked up just as he touched down. I've seen footage of a larger plane with the same problem.

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disasterdesigner In reply to focallength [2010-11-17 06:25:12 +0000 UTC]

It's my older picture but I though that I will share it again. The winds on that day were around 50kts. That explains a lot. Quite normal for Ireland.

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focallength In reply to disasterdesigner [2010-11-17 14:33:59 +0000 UTC]

I've seen footage of (I believe) a 757(?) get hit with a crosswind just as it was touching down. The pilot was able to recover and do a go-around.

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Kriglfly [2009-12-01 22:54:55 +0000 UTC]

Certainly looks like a close call, if not a hit. Lucky capture of a not-so-lucky moment

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atc61 [2009-11-25 01:24:58 +0000 UTC]

SCARY ....

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disasterdesigner In reply to atc61 [2009-11-25 20:45:53 +0000 UTC]

Damn...it was!

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sweetpainter [2009-11-23 19:12:21 +0000 UTC]

[link] tutaj link do forum, na którym może coś się dowiemy więcej

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disasterdesigner In reply to sweetpainter [2009-11-23 21:13:29 +0000 UTC]

Widzialem forum...musze sie zalogowac. Gdybys tylko mogl przekazac koledze, ktory pytal czy samoloty dalej ladowaly. Tak. Jak gdyby nigdy nic i to z dosc glupiego powodu. Nikt oprocz mnie nie zglosil tego faktu. Po tym kiedy podjechalem do ATC powiedziec im o tym (zdjatko tez widzieli) skontaktowali sie z zaloga tego samolotu, ktora stwierdzila , ze "nic sie nie stalo"...

Wiec samoloty ladowaly sobie dalej...

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sweetpainter In reply to disasterdesigner [2009-11-24 15:41:52 +0000 UTC]

ludkowie z forum w tym fachowcy, przed którymi chylę czoła bo sa naprawdę fachowcami piszą, że nie walnął silnikiem, i że było blisko....tak czy siak wiadomość poszła w świat i jak widzę oglądalność tych fot też całkiem dobra dzisiaj

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chris-malpass [2009-11-22 19:14:34 +0000 UTC]

I like the bit where the airlane say its a controlled landing, Yeah right, look at the state the nose gear is in,
this landings only controlled by the fact the pilot managed to keep it over the runway when it stopped flying and the added bonus that the tyres held out when it hit the ground,

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disasterdesigner In reply to chris-malpass [2009-11-22 22:06:55 +0000 UTC]

But I have to say that the Pilots did their job despite the pressure from Mr. O'Leary...but the fact when they are saying that this was a perfect landing...I would like to put all of them on board of this plane!

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chris-malpass In reply to disasterdesigner [2009-11-23 02:16:00 +0000 UTC]

I saw a Gambia 707 land like this at EMI in the eighties, it was at night in a thunder storm, the aircraft had been chartered at the last minute to cover for a failed 737 on a return holiday flight from the med, they tryed to divert it to Manchester because of the storm but the guy hadn't enough fuel, so he had to put it down at EMI, and it was much like the landing in you photo, low level turbulance, windsheer and a big bang as it hit the runway, but the aircraft in you photo wasnt in the same situation by any means so why didnt they go around when it looked messy, thats a lot of lives on board an expensive aeroplane, frightening.

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parchatek [2009-11-21 10:18:17 +0000 UTC]

wygląda jakby autentycznie gruchnął o ziemię! Mam poważne wątpliwości, czy po tym incydencie wszystko było ok z tym samolotem...

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disasterdesigner In reply to parchatek [2009-11-21 19:46:03 +0000 UTC]

Nikt juz nie wie...najgorsze w tym wszystkim jest to ze IAA (Irish Aviation Authority) kryje Ryana...wstyd.

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DM2Sleepybean [2009-11-21 06:35:16 +0000 UTC]

It looks like that land slopes down on the sides of the runway and if the craft was blown holy-bejesus off to the side this could in that 1/10000000 chance be a non-accident. It's pretty likely that the engine would have come off if it was a hit, but still this looks very convincing.

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traxxnstamp [2009-11-21 01:01:14 +0000 UTC]

Still, I say it looks like a hit. Technically, the pilots should keep this from happening...

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disasterdesigner In reply to traxxnstamp [2009-11-21 10:14:00 +0000 UTC]

Nasty wind shear hit just in the middle of the runway! Now we know what happened. But why would the Pilots ignore the warning systems???

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traxxnstamp In reply to disasterdesigner [2009-11-26 16:30:09 +0000 UTC]

There is no telling on that one...

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Airfliyer [2009-11-20 22:16:53 +0000 UTC]

That does look like a strike. Either the engine got damaged bad, or the suspension on the left main gear. That must have been harsh for the passengers.

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tammyins [2009-11-20 21:18:39 +0000 UTC]

No wonder they're often called LyingAir!! Anyway, it wasn't a near miss. It was a near hit,

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disasterdesigner In reply to tammyins [2009-11-21 10:16:07 +0000 UTC]

Poor bastards on board...

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tammyins In reply to disasterdesigner [2009-11-22 00:50:39 +0000 UTC]

Those sitting on that side must have wondered if they'd end up cartwheeling. Definitely a brown trousers moment.

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jibbyjabba [2009-11-20 21:12:01 +0000 UTC]

Yes, very much a near miss. And yes, this is contact, the engine is pretty much against the runway. Must have been amazing to witness, but scary to be a passenger. You said they were too low approaching, so my initial reaction would be to go and try again, so it's silly that they didn't tbh, because they could have ended up as a crumpled mess on the runway. Idiotic? Slightly, however, they did well to control the aircraft after this.

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shelbs2 [2009-11-20 18:26:02 +0000 UTC]

oh jeeze that looked like a close one XD
amazing feat of airmanship there

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disasterdesigner In reply to shelbs2 [2009-11-20 19:53:10 +0000 UTC]

Big time!

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shelbs2 In reply to disasterdesigner [2009-11-21 18:56:45 +0000 UTC]

glad it ended well though. that could've been a mess

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sweetpainter [2009-11-20 14:53:09 +0000 UTC]

on jest ewidentnie przewalony na lewą stronę i zdarzenie powinno być odnotowane jako incydent...ale po co straszyć klientów
sprawdze czy jest coś o tym na [link] w forum być może nie uderzył obudową silnika ale kąty pod jakim widać podwozie pokazują, że Twoje ustawienie do zdjęcia nie ma tu nic do rzeczy....zresztą do kogo ta mowa zrobiłes setki lądujących maszyn

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disasterdesigner In reply to sweetpainter [2009-11-20 19:57:01 +0000 UTC]

Na pewno nic nie bedzie:/ IAA (Irish Aviation Authority) oficjalnie stwierdzilo, ze nie bylo zadnego incydentu. Pomimo wczesniejszego stwierdzenia,ze faktycznie Ryanair zahaczyl o pas!
Wiem, ze dziennikarze prowadza swoje wlasne sledztwo na ten temat,ale wiesz jak to jest z ta linia...

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tbggtbgg [2009-11-20 13:27:41 +0000 UTC]

if i was on that plane i would need to change my pants!!!!!!
the weather looks horrific and what i'm surprised that the left main landing gear didn't colapse!!!!!
well from here it looks like it didn't!
wow crakin shot there mate!
perhaps u could put that in the newpaper!

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disasterdesigner In reply to tbggtbgg [2009-11-20 13:46:31 +0000 UTC]

The weather was just mad!!! I guess that main gear didn't felt apart as the engine took the force of impact!

And the picture is in todays Irish Daily Mail newspaper

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tbggtbgg In reply to disasterdesigner [2009-11-20 13:48:02 +0000 UTC]

wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
can u take a piccy of the news papaer? i'd love to see it!

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disasterdesigner In reply to tbggtbgg [2009-11-20 14:02:52 +0000 UTC]

Sure I will!!!

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tbggtbgg In reply to disasterdesigner [2009-11-20 14:18:45 +0000 UTC]

ok thanks!

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A-M4-COM [2009-11-20 13:18:38 +0000 UTC]

You see,Daddy?
Because of THIS i hate the Ryanair!!!
Stewardesses are rude,the pilots are awkward! I did fly with this shit airline 4 times,but it was a fuckin' big nightmare! I did read on Wikipedia,that Ryanair have many near miss,like this!
I hope you can understand now,Daddy,why i hate the Ryanair...

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o-g-z [2009-11-20 13:14:44 +0000 UTC]

as for me; "Yes" it is a near miss. I and some of my pilot friends had a discussion on this photo and we all got the conclusion of its being a near miss. It looks that the nose gear is still in the up position which probably saved them and lead the near miss. If the nose gear position was a little more down, than it would lead to some damages

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disasterdesigner In reply to o-g-z [2009-11-20 13:50:21 +0000 UTC]

But I have to say that the Pilots did an outstanding job!It was a typical windshear. Now the question is why the windshear sensors at the airport didn't worked?

And how come the Airline denies everything? They are actually saying that this was "a safe and controlled landing"?

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pulparindo In reply to disasterdesigner [2009-11-23 20:55:01 +0000 UTC]

This was not a windshear, just an unexpected gust of wind. And as far as I can tell from this picture there was no contact of engine and the runway.

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disasterdesigner In reply to pulparindo [2009-11-23 21:07:03 +0000 UTC]

Sorry Mate. But it WAS a wind shear

If not than the whole weather reports can go out of the window...

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o-g-z In reply to disasterdesigner [2009-11-21 16:53:09 +0000 UTC]

Well I'm not an expert in such questions but I believe that the windshear warning sensors worked but the pilots insist on landing; repeating it; it is just my opinion as a pilot.
Windshear warning systems have a short range, and are dependant on the radar picking up velocity data from water and ice particles ahead of the aircraft and so don’t work in dry conditions but as we see there was the conditions for it to work. A missed approach will cost a lot of money for low-cost operators; it might be a company policy that if the weather not threatening much,pilots should try to land or so.hope this will help to your question Kris

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disasterdesigner In reply to o-g-z [2009-11-21 19:46:45 +0000 UTC]

Thanks Mate. Thats why I am not flying with Ryanair

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TimberClipse [2009-11-20 13:01:58 +0000 UTC]

Wow.... interesting little series.....

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disasterdesigner In reply to TimberClipse [2009-11-20 13:49:44 +0000 UTC]

It was pretty close to a disaster...

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TimberClipse In reply to disasterdesigner [2009-11-21 03:30:43 +0000 UTC]

Yes however it does look like there are between 1-12 inches at least between ground and engine....

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disasterdesigner In reply to TimberClipse [2009-11-21 10:12:54 +0000 UTC]

Nobody really knows by now. According to the officials "Nothing Happened" so I think that we have to believe them?

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TimberClipse In reply to disasterdesigner [2009-11-21 11:11:11 +0000 UTC]

Yeah... It does look like it had just enough clearance, and I have heard of flights going down a runway at that angle... so that's my guess.

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