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Published: 2017-09-21 00:40:35 +0000 UTC; Views: 1266; Favourites: 22; Downloads: 0
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Description Cause nostalgia trip to Naruto has just begun. And I remembered why Akatsukis were the coolest thing ever.

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I remember when there was that "theory" that once Akatsuki member removed their cloak in battle, they would die shortly afterwards. And that inspired this comic.
And mostly because now I can see that some of the deaths were badly written and out of place. *cough* Sasori's *cough*
But some were goog, like Deidara's.

But yeah, enjoy.
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Comments: 18

Drpepper1152002 [2019-05-15 00:12:41 +0000 UTC]

Didn't Hidan (technically) die with his cloak on? 

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Dicenete In reply to Drpepper1152002 [2019-05-15 10:24:29 +0000 UTC]

technically yes, but... what if the cloak is very biodegradable and Hidan dies from malnutrition after the cloak has evaporated? (SCIENCE! AND PLOTARMOR! XD )

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RiseDarkMoon [2017-11-21 19:18:15 +0000 UTC]

well hidan wants to die anyways...I love this comic and I love more about your rant in the comments,agree with you guys

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Dicenete In reply to RiseDarkMoon [2017-11-21 20:23:57 +0000 UTC]

Ranting saves lives. xD Especially when I don't have a person irl to rant with xD ... Or then I just rant to myself in front of mirror or write them xD

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RiseDarkMoon In reply to Dicenete [2017-11-21 20:38:49 +0000 UTC]

you should write them I will reblog in tumblr deifently loving all your point of views so far

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Dicenete In reply to RiseDarkMoon [2017-11-21 23:16:40 +0000 UTC]

I'll try, I'm just have to try to write them so I don't feel stupid after xDD

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1-N-F-E-C-T-E-D [2017-10-29 17:14:59 +0000 UTC]

I'm inlove with how you draw your hands, you draw them so goood *q*

//M

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Dicenete In reply to 1-N-F-E-C-T-E-D [2017-11-02 00:30:32 +0000 UTC]

Thank you I try my best, Sasori's hand in that first panel almost made me pull all my hair out xD
Sinix's and Proko's videos have helped me a lot at structure of hands.
And it doesn't help that it's my small private headcanon that Sasori has the most beautiful and delicate hands of all Akatsuki xDD

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Hupsu-Corgi [2017-09-21 07:12:04 +0000 UTC]

Loving this comic!

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Dicenete In reply to Hupsu-Corgi [2017-09-21 18:47:59 +0000 UTC]

Awesome It's always nice to know I'm not alone with this sense of humor of mine xD

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Little1993Lamb [2017-09-21 02:40:12 +0000 UTC]

Yeah plot armor!
I agree with you, Akatsuki's demise is the most unbelieveable BS ever in Naruto. Because when you've got a really cool villainy organization and suddenly they defeated in the most cheap way, just to give spotlight to protagonist, you just..ugh

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Dicenete In reply to Little1993Lamb [2017-09-21 05:47:52 +0000 UTC]

Indeed, I mean when Itachi and Kisame visited Konoha in Part 1, they defeated Kakashi, Asuma and Kurenai easily.
Deidara's death was okay at least, since you could tell from his talks and personality that he would definitely blow himself up.
But the bs  that Sasori was just okay with dying. That he just was like: I saw that attack, I could have dodged it easily, but naah..."
I know they tried to explain it with he hearing his parents souls crying (in anime) ect. but for someone who openly said that he is emotionless
and would feel nothing while killing his grandmother...I'm not buying it. Kisame's suicide was cool though and really opened up his character. Itachi's death
was the thing everything in Sasuke's story arc build up to, but after that Sasuke lost his motivation (and common sense imo. )
Sorry about this rant xDD I just feel deeply in my heart and soul that Akatsukis could have been treated differently

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Little1993Lamb In reply to Dicenete [2017-09-21 07:55:34 +0000 UTC]

Yeah true, at least Deidara and Kisame still have better way to die than other Akatsuki member. They stay strong to their belief until they die and that's really cool
For me, I can't accept Kakuzu's and Hidan's demise. They suffer from either bad plot and rushed story (they're Akatsuki duo who didn't have backstory explanation in the manga).
For Hidan, the way he 'incapacitated' by Shikamaru proved that even protagonist can do worse than antagonist. Is buried someone immortal ALIVE so they suffer eternally is better than murdering someone quickly?! :-/

For Kakuzu, he defeated so easily by a experimental jutsu Naruto just learned?! A badass S-rank shinobi who survived after fighting First Hokage, lived through many years later and have a dangerous kinjutsu, just defeated by mere genin? And even many Naruto fans admit the manga story started to feel wrong from here..
It's okay, I too like to rant myself when commenting XD

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Dicenete In reply to Little1993Lamb [2017-09-21 19:17:10 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, Kakuzu and Hidan had so little screentime it was just sad... And I liked their chemistry as a team a lot. I still think it is pretty odd that as
 s-ranked ninjas like Hidan and Kakuzu could only kill one jounin, only to be killed in the next fight. I think Shikamaru could have demolish Hidan's skull and
 be done with it and not to let him suffer. Then again it could have been used to dive in to moral issues. Akatsukis would have been awesome for questioning morals of protagonists. I mean if protagonists had a chance to hear why these guys make up with the conclusions that they had, they could have a moment to think about it, reflect on it and actually form their own new opionion. After that face them again in battle. Not just "My opinion and view of the world is right, yours wrong, deal with it". kind of bs.
Kakuzu's story was extremely sad and you can really see why he left his village, I would have too. Hidan's blind religious faith had potetial to be introduce different kind of point of view of life in ninja world.
And maybe this is just speculation or my dumb hope but I think some of the akatsukis really wanted war to end and basicly were mad at the ninja system for treating them like tools. Because other villages weren't like Konoha's merry band.
Suna was ruthless to its habitants, Kiri was very brutal and serious about getting the best out of its genins. We don't really know about the customs of Iwa and Kumo, but I bet they are similar to Suna and Kiri.

I mean Naruto as a series had lot of potential to be deep and I think as for Part 1's chuunin exam it was, I really loved Gaara's story and how it reflected that of Naruto. After that I think Naruto doesn't grow as a person as much.
Also I would have loved to see similar growth from akatsukis. Like if they found out Obito's true plan and some of them being like "hell no, this wasn't the thing we agreed on" And go to rogue from akatsuki too or something. xDD

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Little1993Lamb In reply to Dicenete [2017-09-21 21:24:00 +0000 UTC]

I heard Kishimoto had to cut Kakuzu's & Hidan's screentime and scrapped his plan to write their backstory in the manga because of his editor's demand. It makes me really curious what if Kishimoto not changed his plan. We could have Kakuzu's story from his mission to assassinate Hashirama, understand his pain when imprisoned and how he steal his village's kinjutsu, to knowing his survival days as rogue ninja until he joined Akatsuki.
Same with Hidan, we could have story from his POV about his disagreement to his village's new rule, his path to immortality (we still don't know how it works, ffs).

The point was to understand from antagonist' view. It's crucial thing to protagonist to do before they have to forced their belief in front of the enemy. Maybe even question themself "Are we wrong?", but no. The protagonist still prefer to misjudged them instead of reflecting on them :"(

If all of Hidden Villages can stop the war and accepting Akatsuki, maybe Akatsuki could be worked as village's hired assassins organization like we can see in Road to Ninja movie (the only part I liked in the movie, I just want to see them again). That would be so interesting

Aah yes! Gaara's character development is excellent, compared to what become of Naruto now. As the series, I love Naruto anime/manga Part 1, because the story still motivating to child-me back then. That including Gaara's story too. I think Gaara's life is more harsh and truly sad than Naruto as Jinchuuriki, but he succeeding to become great Kazekage and be the better person now. What the irony is, the person Gaara looked up still not be able to change at all lol. Indeed, act and practising is better than just spewing ideology without doing anything XD

Yes, we want to know what if they know Obito's plan (and Madara's too, ofc) and what would they react. Konan already suspicious about his plan, but sadly she was killed by Obito

We deserved to have Akatsuki spin-off stories (technically they already have an Akatsuki novel published but still not enough story). That would be more interesting ;D

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Dicenete In reply to Little1993Lamb [2017-09-22 21:11:53 +0000 UTC]

Oh, that’s a bummer, but I had a hunch that editor would have some say in it. Because the past is the thing that builds character. I would have love to hear more about their pasts,

Indeed, I think in Legend of Korra they did excellent job in ideological journey as Korra must learn from her enemies in order to grow. Of course I think they had more clearer picture of where the show was going to end. Naruto probably didn’t have that luxury. Or it did have an ending, Naruto becoming Hokage, but the middle part wasn’t planned or editors gave their harsh opinions about it.

The more I think about it, the more I come to a conclusion that Akatsuki is full of individuals that actually had a mind of their own. They think for themselves and I think that is what makes them interesting to watch. I mean, all of them have their different opinions, but they can work together. In the end, missing ninjas only requirement is that they are no longer loyal to their village.

Part 1 is pure bliss, well mostly (started to read it again a month ago, there are some loopholes, but I forgive them because chuunin exams and nostalgia xD) But yeah, Gaara’s story arc made him more relatable and motivating leader. Loved his speech in the start of Fourth Ninja War. Naruto’s story arc as a jinchuuriki is okay sad, but it has lots of stupid things going on. Like why not tell Naruto the reason why people in his village hate him. Did he really grow up all on his own, he must have had a caregiver of some kind, right?

But there is one thing I really can’t forgive and that is when series breaks its own rules. In chuunin exam it was said that if you open all chakra gates you will die. Well Might Guy opens them, and if everything had gone well, he would have died. But then Naruto comes and slightly touched him with his pinky and Guy comes back to life. I mean, I love Guy as a character a lot, you could have given him this awesome, meaningful death scene…

A spin off about their mercenary missions would be lovely, everytime there were a filler about those in the anime, I watched the heck out of them xD Too bad the scene in Road to Ninja was too short. And even if they say that the Akatsuki creation storyline in Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution isn’t canon, I just had to buy that game only for that storyline. (then again, if it were canon, it would have some serious timeline issues.)

I’m waiting for those novels to get translated, Akatsuki Hiden is probably the only one I truly anticipated. D and writing these replies really gives me nice ideas for small comics and what kind of serious conversations Akatsuki member would have about morality, values etc. xD

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Little1993Lamb In reply to Dicenete [2017-09-23 13:35:15 +0000 UTC]

I think Naruto Part 2 story is more forced than Part 1, that's what I feel when re-reading the manga again. And too much hipocrisy from protagonist side without showing the antagonist opinion :-/

So far Akatsuki still got first place on my heart as the best villain on anime/manga, and to see how they ended always make me want to cry. Why the best characters ever made always got waste away for nothing

Yeah it's illogical why nobody help Naruto grow up as normal child in Konoha even he's one of jinchuuriki, so he didn't feel lonely and excluded from society. Or hated for something he didn't do. From there I realized something wrong with Konoha itself..

Yes I agree with you about not giving meaningful character death, actually it's okay if character who should die is died as long as they got meaningful death. But to make them suddenly saved and alive again is like WHAT??

Aaah I love Akatsuki Creation in NU:NSR too! If only they could fix the timeline, it could be perfect
For Akatsuki Hiden I think someone already translated some parts in Tumblr.

Now I'm really interested about your next comic based from our conversation, and I'm glad you found new inspiration. Please draw it, I'll be waiting for your update ;D

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Dicenete In reply to Little1993Lamb [2017-09-25 21:00:20 +0000 UTC]

I’m surprised really that Naruto grew up to be mentally balanced person. I would have wanted to find more dirt on Konoha, but it always seemed that they just swept things under a rug. Of course, the Uchiha massacre was a horrible thing, but it’s kind of presented the way that Uchiha’s started it somehow.

I think the reason villains are usually more interesting and better characters because they usually are flawed. I have been doing thinking why Deidara doesn’t want his art to be judged, what happened in his past. Or Hidan, what was he feeling when his home village’s decision was basicly a bitchslap to his face, telling him that he and ninjas weren’t needed anymore… Kisame and Kakuzu both got huge trust issues because of their villages…

And many other side characters in Naruto have this fate. And I think selfish goals are always more interesting than “I want world peace”. Of course, this can be done well too. It all really comes to character development once again. xD  

I have only seen some small parts of the hiden translated, mainly Itachi and Kisame’s part. Oh wait, I just found translated version of Kakuzu’s and Hidan’s chapter. OwO

It’s going to be bit short, not sure how deep I’m capable of going yet. But I think I found a way to get some interesting conversations between them using the thesis-antithesis-synthesis model. I will definitely use that in the future. I just hope I can keep all of them in character. But then again, I believe all of them had this “not on a mission” -side to them.  

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