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derkert — Hanging out
Published: 2010-01-04 15:22:02 +0000 UTC; Views: 2915; Favourites: 69; Downloads: 0
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Sort of abstract. The grill is from the the academy of arts in Berlin. Might be helpful when ineterpreting this work. Well, maybe not.Digital collage by edvard derkert 2009
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I am topnotch still. You get 121 of 12 possible stars.
yes,
you Arne welcome,
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you are. i am too. what a team.
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Thanks!
Sorry for late reply. I have not had much of a internet connections for a couple of months!
edvard
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That makes me very happy to hear!
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Thanks Il. Please have a look at my journal!
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I did, and it's great! really.
but I always told you that I love your abstracts (maybe because I'm not wise enough to understand your collages.. )
ok. it's only the half true... I love your minimal collages very much!
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Some of my collages are quite conceptual and sometimes the gestaltung (there is no good word for it english I think) is a bit lacking. More fun than art maybe. I am happy you like my black and white abstracts – my girlfriend dont! Bo ho.
You dont have be smart to like my collages, they are many times quite stupid (and maybe even intellectual)
Thanks for all kind words! I think we have sonething in commonn, we seem to try out differnt ways of expression. To be it is about learning, and unlearning. Digging deep into PS.
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I find your deapth in your abstracts, and it fascinates me.
I do believe there is a certain way to "read" collages and many times I'm lack of this capability - I don't "speak" this language... I do like collages when they deal with colors and shapes, but I'm a bit death when it comes to the added words and hidden messages...
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I understand. I feel like I am more than one artist, abstract, minimalistic, verbal, ironic, stupid, intelligent, gross and even delicate. I dont believe in style. I just go where my pictures take me. Thanks Il – for our latest convesations.
el ed (my spanish alter ego)
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(smile) yes, I feel preety much the same regarding me (more than one artist),
although I can't say as much regarding irony, stupidity, gross and even sense of humor...
it's symply too violently for me... but I think it's my fault -
therefore I'm fascinated to the powerful combination of these contrasts in people like you
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Oh I am quite kind in real life though! Can have a biting tongue though, mostly because things do tend to just hip out of my mouth. But when it goes wrong I usually beg forgiveness!
Interesting that you use the word Violence – never heard that before. Yes it is a sort of clash art.
But your pictures are not always "pretty", sometimes they do seem to carry a big bag of dark shadows.
I got a T-shirt with a quote from Macbeath on it: Something wicked comes this way!
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(smile) well, of course irony and cynicism ARE violence... 
I know you're a kind person
yes, my pictures are not always "pretty", and they do carry a big bag of dark shadows
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Hm – That was interesting to hear. And sad too. Irony is an special case when it comes to communicating. I have been accused of using it. I have had to defend myself. Straightness have usually been the canon. Well who can argue about that. But some things cant be expressed straight. Life is complicated, society is complicated, human beings are complicated. We dont know that much about our selves – to always be straight and single minded. Some people think a lot before they speak their minds. I dont; I talk our of my head. I might not always be straight, but I dont censor myself, So I might be more true than other people. And sometimes I have ask forgiveness!
Language have different layers – even when I speak there is a part or me that responds to form, rhythm and melody.
Some people use irony to make people feel insecure, not knowing what to respond to. That is mean. And it is not acceptable to treat children that way. But people who are in power or think they are better than everybody else. Those I have no bad conscience "hitting" with a little irony.
Oh this is a big issue for me I think! I stop now. Dont want to bore you!
Take care il.
ed
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hmmm..
but irony and cynicism or sarcasm are violent because of their SUBTEXTS which remain open to wicked interpretation... it's the OPPOSIT of speaking directly!... and the punch (subtext) hit you below your belt (or in other words - at your soft belly)... when it happens to me (when people talk to me like this) - I'm so hurt, that I can't find my words...
but that's in life. another story in art. irony and cynicism and sarcasm are powerful tools of criticism and making a point...
there are refined ways to do it (sophistication, humor and so on). when it's done brutally or vulgarly - it's purely violence.
ok. it's late... must go to sleep
see ya
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With irony you can say two things in the same time. Like metaphors.
These verbal expressions sure confuse people outside of the lingual context of the specific language. The meaning lies below the letter level. You need the context and some imagniation to figure out what the speaker really means.
These figures of speech does not have to be mean. Or be meant to hurt.
Some people I know – I seem to hurt them ( I think of one person mainly) all the time, they are "over sensative" and dont get my "jokes". I try to think of it, but then I go again bubbling over....
But then she is hurt not only by me!
edvard
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(smile) well, that's completely different thing... people who chose to be hurt doesn't need special figures of speech in order to be hurt...
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Fantastic. Inspires me to do my own manipulations again.
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Thats is GOOD to hear!
edvard
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I see the celtic life tree..a distorted figure..maybe colours and shapes..but definitely power of abstract,beatiful
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You see a lot – you are not only gifted as an artist, but also as a viewer!
And thanks!
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featured:
[link] ... unfinished thoughts
I hope you like it 
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Vielen dank Chrisiane. Selbsverständnich! Sehr knorke!
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Much better than to work out!
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it is?! i'll never do it again!
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Mycket spännande och smått intrikat abstraktion, eller skall jag säga en slags dekonstruktion av ett sjuttiotalsmåleri. Tänker kanske främst på Francis Bacon. Oavsett referenspunkter så gillar jag verkligen bilden; stark, uttrycksfull och gåtfull...
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Tack! Spännande att du nämde bacon. Även en annan kom att tänka på honom. Dock inte jag! Men jag fröstår vad du menar se: [link]
edvard
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Intressant bild du länkat till. Det jag känner spontant dock är att den för mig egentligen känns mindre Bacon än "Hanging out", trots ansikterna. Jag gissar att jag tittade på helt andra, rent formella saker och då främst förhållandet mellan ö
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Ja, det kanske var lite för mycket "buskis", och jag menar inte att "skämta sönder" en bild som jag känner har en klangbotten som inte med nödvändighet handlar om humor direkt, men lite skoj var det ju...
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Du kan inte skämta sönder min bilder, dom är bestrukna med en anti-humor-hinna (AHH).
Skoj är skoj är skoj
No problems som de säger har på DA
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Oh! Another one for my Femme collection!
I'm sorry.
I truly love this. Extreme attraction.
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