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MarkKudym [2023-10-30 18:19:43 +0000 UTC]
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CobraFreek [2023-06-28 21:46:37 +0000 UTC]
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tybsssett [2023-06-28 14:02:24 +0000 UTC]
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Aericlee [2023-06-26 23:16:17 +0000 UTC]
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Mohamme [2023-03-25 10:28:33 +0000 UTC]
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Dartxo In reply to Mohamme [2023-03-27 17:51:55 +0000 UTC]
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Dartxo In reply to TheAlternativeApe [2021-04-07 23:33:16 +0000 UTC]
Aye, but you cannot really compare lions in British heraldry and sculpture with lions in Western and Southern Asian art. I really do not think lions are as important culturally, religiously and historically to the British and Western Europeans generally as they are to Indians and other Asian cultures, a reason being as you pointed out, that there really have not been any lions there since prehistoric times.
I admit that prehistory is not a branch I am most knowledgable about. You are right, the lions being displaced by climate change and the spread of forests makes a lot of sense. My comment had more to do with the historic decline of lions, not with prehistory.
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Dartxo In reply to TheAlternativeApe [2021-04-08 01:32:59 +0000 UTC]
You actually opened an interesting topic here. The Lion is not the "King of the Beasts" all across the world. If you look at many eastern cultures it is the Tiger that holds that title. Interesting example of Western imposition.
I'd be curious to learn more about it, but so far it seems to me that lions in European and Western symbology seems more like a case of apropiation than anything else, in that they took an animal foreign to them and adopted it as a symbol of the things they like.
It's actually one of the things that I think draw people to the Tiger vs Lion debate: in that they see it as a symbolic clash between East and West, but I mantain that the Lion has actually very little to do with the West as we now know it. You don't have entire rites, gods, temples and traditions with the Lion at the center as you do in fact in many ancient and current cultures in Africa and Asia.
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Dartxo In reply to TheAlternativeApe [2021-04-08 03:04:06 +0000 UTC]
I do agree that Elephants generally are more suited for the "King of the Animals" title. I think people tend to go for the predators because they asociate them with an aggressive, "take what you want" attitude (which isn't necessarily an accurate assesment), and forgo the hervibores because they asociate them with a placid, tame disposition (which isn't always accurate either, especially when applied to elephants).
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sirjosh9 [2021-03-30 15:18:41 +0000 UTC]
Singh the Asiatic Lion vs Shere Khan the Bengal Tiger.
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asari13 [2021-03-22 14:04:51 +0000 UTC]
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Dartxo In reply to asari13 [2021-03-22 22:04:31 +0000 UTC]
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Splotchie [2021-03-01 00:06:19 +0000 UTC]
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