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Published: 2017-08-10 19:59:47 +0000 UTC; Views: 913; Favourites: 19; Downloads: 8
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Description As much as I would like to take credit for coming up with such a clever answer to Lewis Carroll's famous unanswered riddle...puzzle expert Sam Loyd thought it up.
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Comments: 13

Darkdealer65 [2017-12-15 04:15:34 +0000 UTC]

that's one answer

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ctdsnark In reply to Darkdealer65 [2017-12-15 15:19:44 +0000 UTC]

There are others?

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Darkdealer65 In reply to ctdsnark [2017-12-15 19:10:52 +0000 UTC]

yes

They're both stained with ink

They can only produce flat notes

Raven has five letters, and letters are something you find in writing desks

and there's Carroll's official answer:

Because it can produce a few notes, though they are very flat; and it is never put with the wrong end in front! The early issues of the revision spell "never" as "nevar", ie "raven" with the wrong end in front.

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ctdsnark In reply to Darkdealer65 [2017-12-15 21:23:39 +0000 UTC]

Actually,Carroll's "official" answer was just something he came up with for the 1896 edition;he never intended the riddle to have an answer.

Of course,that didn't stop people from speculating.

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Darkdealer65 In reply to ctdsnark [2017-12-15 23:24:01 +0000 UTC]

I know that

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organicvision [2017-08-11 08:55:59 +0000 UTC]

Poe was especially popular in France because he was translated by Baudelaire
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I'm late!

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ctdsnark In reply to organicvision [2017-08-11 14:16:58 +0000 UTC]

While I did know Poe was the first American author to win worldwide fame,I didn't know that about Baudelaire....thanks for sharing!

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organicvision In reply to ctdsnark [2017-08-11 18:07:03 +0000 UTC]

That's one reason that during his lifetime he had more success in France than in the U.S.

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Hatchetstein4Real [2017-08-10 20:01:10 +0000 UTC]

I think that was a reference Lewis Carroll made. Ā 

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ctdsnark In reply to Hatchetstein4Real [2017-08-10 20:16:00 +0000 UTC]

Carroll intentionally wanted to leave it unanswered,so he chose two concepts which he believed could never be related,not even in joke form. However,after years of people pestering him for an answer,he provided one in the preface to the 1896 edition of Alice In Wonderland,as follows:
Because it can produce a few notes,though they are very flat,and it is never put with the wrong end in front!
Many believe this was just an afterthought,not intended as the "real" solution.

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uanime5 In reply to ctdsnark [2017-08-13 00:10:04 +0000 UTC]

In the original version never is spelled nevar (raven backwards).

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ctdsnark In reply to uanime5 [2017-08-13 04:10:03 +0000 UTC]

I can honestly say I didn't know that.....Ā 

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Hatchetstein4Real In reply to ctdsnark [2017-08-10 21:26:45 +0000 UTC]

I see. XDĀ 

But still, it sounds very much like something From Edgar Allen Poe, even though he died in 1849, 16 years before Alice was published.

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