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Nvm below, it was written in some unhappiness. I like this picture though. ,3,WARNING: This is a Rant
I hate DA.
I hate it so much.
It makes me feel terrible.
Like I can't draw.
Everyone else draws so nicely with such ease.
Then there's me.
Struggling to make my art look nice.
It's not a fun feeling.
I see someone with SHIT art, and what is this? They have tons of people going "I love this! This is so cool!" and almost a thousand (sometimes more) watchers.
Where is the logic in that.
Then there's everyone who's got someone helping them along with their art.
Telling if shading looks wrong.
If anatomy is off.
Ways to improve.
Getting tons of critiques.
What do I get? Nothing. No critiques. No help.
Nope.
Never.
I hate it.
I hate it so much.
DA just makes me hate my art so much more.
Makes me so jealous of others.
Now don't say "You draw art for yourself, not to be popular."
If I drew it for my f*cking self, I'd not post it dammit! I want to know people like my art. I want to be noticed.
But F*ck it. I don't care.
I should just get myself to leave DA.
But I like it here. I have friends. And I just can't keep myself away. x.x
Now I'll shut up.
Art and Character (c) Me
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You really need this, so I'll give it to you. The first I've ever given to anyone. You get it. right now. Right now...
NOW
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If you want, I'll comment more on your stuff... I like all of your artwork! The only reason I don't comment is because I feel unworthy and undeserving to say anything about your great artwork...
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Goman you feel that way
If you ever want to feel better
Just
Look at my gallery XD
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Whoah, a dA god commented.... horry shet. And I feel the exact same way man. On IG I'm somewhat more loved and I go here and I can never finish any art to upload and I feel like such a lurker
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Haha your statement of "DA God" was amazing. XD
She's pretty cool really .3. She watches me and favs a good amount of my stuff. Her art is superb though. ;3;
I abuse my IG. XD
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0.o you're so lucky
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Haha XD
I wouldn't say lucky, just getting noticed. ~.3.~
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But you got noticed by a GOD O.O
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Pfft. I wouldn't call her a god. (I used to. XD)
She's just your average super amazing artist .3.
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I feel this way almost 99% of the time alsoBut what DA has taught me was to just ignore, work with yourself and improve at your own rate- LOL shut up me, I like to know if people like my art too xD thats also why I upload<333 So you're not alone(:
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Look... I read your rant and although I can sympathize (and even empathize a bit) I've got to tell you that the way you're thinking is counterproductive to what you are looking to achieve.
You seem to think that for some people drawing just 'happens'; that it's easier for them than the rest of the artistic community. Well that's wrong.
They only reason it 'looks' easy is because they work hard at it. They don't just print out wonderful images like magic, it takes years of practice, SELF motivation, and teaching to get to the stage of making something look 'easy'.
'Shit art' for some may be a goldmine for others. Remember this... even though you don't like it there's others out there that do. It's a bit shallow to say 'shit' art about anyone's art because in reality... it gives people the same right to say the same about yours.
You can't FORCE people to comment on your work. You can ask and post stamps and icons asking for them but the truth is people don't have to listen. Art isn't about the comments anymore. It used to be but with the introduction of 'collections' people feel that +fav'ing something is worth as much (if not more) than a redundant comment.
Yes, it's fine to welcome and ask for comments, nothing wrong with asking for help or even praise on your work. But you can't get mad when it doesn't happen.
As much as I'd like to pat your head and say 'it's ok hun~' I can't...because to me that would be a waste of time and insulting. I've been where you are (yes, I have) so I know how you feel. I can still remember sitting there logging on to dA, looking in my messages--seeing '6' messages and then seeing 3 were dA notices, 2 were journals, and 1 was a favorite (and I had nearly 100 Deviations at that point!). It frustrated me because I would look at other people's work and compare.
That was where I was wrong.
DON'T. COMPARE.
Don't look at other people's work and say "They get more '____'!! Why don't I?!?!" because no matter what, even if there's a reason (like that person being on dA for 7 years+) your brain will ALWAYS think negatively. It will come to conclusions like "It's because my art sucks!" and "I'm just not good enough" even when that is not the case at all.
You say you want to get recognized? Well here's what you do... join groups. Post your work in groups where people like the same subject matter you do.
You want critiques? Heck! There's at least 50 groups centered around getting critique feedback on your work. You have to join them because they don't really invite people. Post your work there but be prepared to know what will happen. Not all critiquers will be nice and courteous with their words. A lot of times they'll be harsh and may sound a bit cruel even. But they ARE trying to help.
If you seriously invite critiques, they will come.
To be honest with you... I think what you're looking for is the easy climb to being noticed. Like what most people want on dA it seems.
Never mind the idea of gaining friends and posting your work to share it with people (even if they don't fav or comment on it; 'views' still mean someone looked at it).
Think of it as an art gallery in real life. You walk through... look at the art, and although it's all wonderful in its own way, you don't always say something about it. Instead you look at it, study it, and hold it in your memory for years to come. 'Influenced' doesn't always mean astonished. People DO like your work, then even love it granted by the comments here.
My suggestion is to stop thinking so close-minded as you are in certain ways. If you want to get noticed you have to make it so. But don't deny your own creative person in the process. Don't knock yourself down before you even begin your journey.
It WILL take time but if you keep going and do what it takes you can get noticed, but it will happen when you least expect it.
Deviantart.com itself is not a cruel place. Oh, it has some cruel people on it with bad tempers and ill intentions, but it in and of itself is not a bad place. In fact it's not too far fetched to say it's actually quite a wonderful place. Where else on the web is there such a broad audience of creatively fueled minds? Where else can you post artwork and see artwork of others in such a wide and broad spectrum of subject matter?
And where else can you sit in New York and talk with another artist in Moscow?
dA isn't the issue here, it's your mode of thinking, hun.
You have to stop thinking you're not good enough. You HAVE talent. You do. Your work isn't perfect, of course, but no one's work is ever perfect. It never will be.
There will always be people saying 'this is perfect' while others will say 'this is horrible' about the same thing.
I'm a firm believer in self motivation and I believe you're looking for it. It's evident that you're struggling to find some solid ground here, but know you're already standing on it. Just DRAW and give it time. Yelling and forcing people through guilt to do things for you is never the right way to go. Take it from someone who used to do it. It gains you recognition and popularity, but it's the wrong kind...
Just do what you love and let things flow~
Hope this helps... I know it seems like I'm mad or yelling at you but I'm not. It's just not in my nature to be all 'awww :c' about situations like this because I know it does nothing to help. It makes someone feel a bit 'better' but in the end it doesn't help them see what's going on from an outside source. I hope that you can find your peace and realize that your are talented and what you do is wonderful.
Cheers~
-Kato
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You've practically written me a book. .3. I'll try responding by paragraph then.
I think my seeding behind my ideas of it seeming "easy" is The fact they seem to do the work so easily when you watch them, but frankly you're probably right. You've got more experience on your back, and I've looked at your old work, it's improved a lot. It's like Capukat as well, she's improved tenfold in a year, but I guess it's from her dedication. Stating "Shit Work" wasn't kind of me. I need to refrain from posting when I'm unhappy // just emotional. It makes me make rash decisions in word choice and in opinion. I'll probably remove this later after saving important comments, it's not something I should be proud of.
I'm going to skip a reply on the commenting part, as you've pretty muh explained that great.
Comparing. You're right, I shouldn't do it. It's so hard not too. Especially when I compare my work to someone like your art, not taking in mind how many more years you've worked. Although comparing has helped me grow, however not properly I feel. I'd base my work on other's style, not taking a grasp as anatomy first. I'm thinking I'll be taking a break from browsing too much though, as I need to slow down and start back with basic referencing of my pets and photographs.
Once I get back on a roll, I'm going to join lots of groups, as well as posting actively in the groups I am part of. It's a good idea, I just never do it.
With rest of these I have no other reply to either, as they're good advice though.
Frankly Sterling, this was a slap in the face. It was a good one, from an experience artist though. I'm happy you're willing to do this, as many aren't willing to. Many thanks ^_^
Many thanks,
Dani
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I feel this way all the time. It's why I never post any of my drawings or photography T.T
Personally, I love your art. I love your drawing style. Please don't give up
I'd miss our random chats in your watch me sessions :3
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I love your art D:
I'm sorry that I haven't commented on your work more. :c
I will try to in future. c:
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please, You're amazing. It's the reason I'm watching you right? I'd say you're one of the best! don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I know the feeling of people that have art that looks like shit but, they get a bunch of watchers and comments and fanart. I know the feel, I really do. And, maybe you can learn from others art work. You're not getting critiqued because your art is so perfect. Or I think so myself. I'm not the best artist, but I'm definitely not blind. I know a good artist when I see one. I love what you've done here. Atleast someone has posted about it before. Anyways keep your head high. you have pure talent.
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I don't know what to say. Thank you. .3.
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I don't know how to help you in a situation like this, Dan.
You know I adore your art, I always have.
From the moment you commented on something of mine, and I looked through your stuff. I've always loved it.
Anatomy escapes my vision. The amount of effort you actually do put into a lot of your art is what really gets me. You spent countless hours/days/weeks on art, and for what? Nothing. You do deserve more. I know that.
I've heard the best way to do that, to get noticed, is start putting art in groups. Share it on FB, ask your friends to advertise you. I mean, honestly.
But honestly. You try so many new things, and so many different styles, It's crazy, and fantastic.
But I don't know what other advice to give you, Dani. I really don't. I wish I could help.
If you ever find courage to, and you still hate DA, go ahead and leave. None of your friends will think less of you, I'm sure.
I know I wouldn't.
DA is a cruel place.
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Thank you so much Kary.
You've watched me so long, and just stuck with me so long, I love that. Makes me feel so loved.
DA is a cruel place. It's got the worst system of sharing art of "newbies" ((I've been here for almost 4 years. I doubt I'm Newb.))
It automatically sets searches to "popular all time" not "newest"
BC
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It does.
It's craptastic and isn't just, alskhg
Augh.
IDK.
It sucks, honestly.
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I am sorry to hear that people do that, I have experienced that...I hope it gets better for you...your art is amazing, don't let anyone else tell you different
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