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ChocolateDecadence In reply to Okarnillart [2013-01-21 10:40:38 +0000 UTC]

Actually, tell me more. (the girlfriend here, doing the repairs)
I'm still unsure which wefting method to use, also I wanted to add some wefts to the hooves (I have no clue how that hair is called in english)
So if you have any tutorials, that would be awesome :3

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Okarnillart In reply to ChocolateDecadence [2013-01-22 01:00:31 +0000 UTC]

a reply to my reply too in case it doesn't come out in your inbox. Really good luck, I'd love to see progress pictures...?

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ChocolateDecadence In reply to Okarnillart [2013-01-22 22:16:12 +0000 UTC]

Thanks this is really helpful! Ordering Materials 8D
If I have the time, surely I'll try to upload WIP pics after it's done on my journal <3

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Okarnillart In reply to ChocolateDecadence [2013-01-23 09:44:48 +0000 UTC]

Glad to help if you run into problems or aren't sure about any of my long winded explanations just send a message and I'll try to explain more

I've watched you.

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Okarnillart In reply to ChocolateDecadence [2013-01-22 00:54:48 +0000 UTC]

feather - the long hairs around the hooves and the backs of the legs are called 'feather'

There are several methods for hairing - this is one of the most popular

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I don't know if it's clear from that but you glue the hair onto the neck in the opposite way you want it to lie so that when you fold it back over itself you don't see the glue.

A lot of people cut a slot down the neck for the hair - which IMO is easier but that very much depends on what the model is made from. Predominantly model horses used in the model horse hobby are some form of hard plastic or resin that will take a slot and be structurally sound afterwards, is your guy made of dry leather? If he is avoid making him wet unless you've sealed his paintwork at all?

Here's a video tutorial by our own Elrenia

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It shows you a lot of the process in movement rather than pictures. Personally I don't do the long tab of hair for the neck myself but the horse she is hairing is made of rubber and once you get the slot in the neck open you have to pretty much shove the whole lot in there in one go whereas an open slot (that does not close immediately you take the knife out) is more open to many shanks of hair as Rio Rondo uses)

What sort of mane do you want for him? Long and floaty or trimmed like a warmblood? If it's the 'long and floaty' I'd use the full length of the natural fibre (trim at the end as described in Rio Rondo (where btw you may get hair if you don't want to dye it yourself, if not go on Ebay and look for 'hairing model horses' supplies. You're going to need a lot for him so dyeing your own may be the better option. I leave black in for a few days to be sure but you must must rinse it out very well and be doubly sure it won't stain.

For his tail you may be looking at longer than the natural fibre can deal with, to get around this you insert a dock (name for the tailbone of a horse) into the rump. Rio Rondo is using one and hers are made from wire so they are poseable once the hair is on. I don't do that I make my docks from wire covered in milliput but for your guy who's going to be moved around and is very big a more pliable wire dock may be the answer. A longer dock than normal will give you that extra length for tail you need.

Somewhere in my gallery is my customised Battatt horse - Gala. Look for 'an unexpected suprise' or 'Lady Kefri rides Out' she is haired with hair from a human wig with the slot method for the neck and a dock from milliput/epoxy. The two tone tail is created by just glueing the whiter hair on the lower end of the dock and the black hair higher up. if money had been no object I'd have got grey and silver wigs too and given her a far more natural and mixed look tail but meh she's ok as she is. Anyway hope that helps Any questions just ask, I'm more than happy to help

Sue

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Okarnillart In reply to Okarnillart [2013-01-22 01:00:02 +0000 UTC]

Ah I nearly forgot - for the feather you can either cut a slot up theback of his legs around the lowest joint (the fetlock) and use the slot method, or you can make very small hanks of hair as in the rio Rondo method and just glue them around the lower leg being careful to place them so they look natural.

Couple of tips on hair fibres, Mohair you will probably be familiar with since it's used in doll wigs (the stuff we use in the model horse hobby is longer) but you know how it is light and you can sort of finger sculpt it for different looks? I'd use that stuff for his feather as it will be lighter and look more natural, you will be able to brush it out to look like movement of feather as he moves. If you go down the route of human wig hair for the mane and tail the hair is very very heavy and will hang like Gala's rather than be styleable like the mohair wigs. Hence not using it for the feather as whatever the leg is meant to be doing and however fast he's meant to be moving in photographs the wig hair will look wrong on the leg.

Hope helps

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AraDolls In reply to Sharkana [2013-01-20 20:33:52 +0000 UTC]

Boah, schwer zu sagen?
Also das äußere scheint so eine Art Pappmaché zu sein, aber ich kann es nicht genau sagen. Es wiegt zwar einiges, ist aber für die größe recht leicht. Echt schwer zu beschreiben o_O

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Sharkana In reply to AraDolls [2013-01-20 21:28:10 +0000 UTC]

Also von der Oberfläche her war meine erste Vermutung auch Pappmache, sonst müsste es ja bei dieser Größe unsäglich schwer sein.

Es sieht jedenfalls von der Größe her super aus!

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AraDolls In reply to Sharkana [2013-01-20 21:43:21 +0000 UTC]

Es ist schon recht schwer, aber ja...ich denke es hat einen stabilen Grundbau, dadrüber irgendwas anderes und dann das Pappmaché.

Es ist auch wirklich groß XD
Ich erschrecke mich jedes Mal wenn ich im Dunkeln in mein Zimmer gehe.

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Sharkana In reply to AraDolls [2013-01-21 21:10:22 +0000 UTC]

Ich finde es ja schon großartig, dass du überhaupt Platz dafür hast. Wir hatten ja mal ein Pferd in MSD Größe hier zu einem Dollmeet, und so beeindruckend es aussieht, ich fürchte ich hätte beim besten Willen keinen Platz dafür. Und dann ein Dollpferd in 70-er Größe O__O, help, das ist ja schon ein Schaukelpferd in Menschengröße xD

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AraDolls In reply to Sharkana [2013-01-21 21:43:28 +0000 UTC]

*rüberschaut* Jetzt wo du es sagst...ja, es hat so Kinderschaukelpferd-Größe (vielleicht auch ein Tick Länger o_O)...es nimmt auch recht viel Platz weg und ich werde mir irgendwie einen guten Ort suchen um es unterzubringen, Keller/Dachboden sind mir irgendwie zu schade dafür.

Und wir haben so viel Zeugs hier (Portal-Gun, bald ein großer Metal Gear Rex, Lichtschwerter...), da macht das Pferd das Kraut nicht mehr fett XD

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Sharkana In reply to AraDolls [2013-01-22 17:45:18 +0000 UTC]

xDDD

Das nenne ich mal eine gelassene Einstellung.

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