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q-118 In reply to Kelly63 [2009-06-10 20:35:37 +0000 UTC]

I believe it's not what the camera can do for you, it's what you can do with the camera.

Nikon or Canon, either are the best SLR.

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Kelly63 In reply to q-118 [2009-06-10 22:24:37 +0000 UTC]

Well, looking around DA (even without seeing them at 100%) I've been noticing for quite awhile that the Canon images seem way sharper and free of noise comparatively.

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q-118 In reply to Kelly63 [2009-06-15 17:47:05 +0000 UTC]

I shoot in RAW and post process the unwanted grain out, or add it depending on the mood I wish to convey.

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Kelly63 In reply to q-118 [2009-06-15 17:50:28 +0000 UTC]

I do too but more often than not the filtering and sharpening corrodes the quality of the image. I would much rather have less noise coming out of my camera, period.

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andy-j-s In reply to Kelly63 [2009-06-09 21:47:21 +0000 UTC]

At One Time That Would Have Been A Straight No Way
But Having Played With A Friends D3 The Other Day It's
Not So Straight Forward Anymore. Nikon Maybe A Little Slow On
The Focus Front But The Image Quality And Lack Of Noise From The
D3 Is Astounding And Seems To Knock Canon In To Touch For Now Anyway.

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Kelly63 In reply to andy-j-s [2009-06-09 22:25:03 +0000 UTC]

Well I'm very confused, my new D90 is extremely noisy, even at 200. It supposedly is great for low noise.
I have a professional photographer friend here who swears by Nikon, I'm going to get him over here and pick his brain.

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andy-j-s In reply to Kelly63 [2009-06-09 22:37:30 +0000 UTC]

Yeah Im Not Sure About Nikons Mid Range Cameras
It Could Be That There Is Some Noise Control In Cam That
You Have Switched Of. Are You Shooting Raw Or Jpeg. ?

All I Know Is The D3 Blew Me Away But Then That Is Nearly £4000.

But From What I Could See It Matched My Iso 100 At 1600 No Problems.

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Kelly63 In reply to andy-j-s [2009-06-09 23:52:38 +0000 UTC]

Apparently the in camera noise reduction is no good but I don't think I have it anyway.

I always shoot RAW and I learned from my friend not to sharpen in Lightroom but I'm still seeing way too much. When I shoot in my studio with 2- 500 watt bulbs on lo 1 (ISO 100), the noise is very minimal though.

Holy, that's crazy!

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andy-j-s In reply to Kelly63 [2009-06-10 21:35:09 +0000 UTC]

At What iso Do You Start To See Unacceptable Levels Of Noise.

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Kelly63 In reply to andy-j-s [2009-06-10 22:21:16 +0000 UTC]

200 is very noisy, filtered and resized for DA is ok but for stock it would be rejected straight up.

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andy-j-s In reply to Kelly63 [2009-06-10 23:07:47 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I'm Not Sure How My Shots Would Stand Up To That Scrutiny
But As I Only Use Them On DA At The Moment And Don't Shoot To Sell
I'm Not To Worried

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Kelly63 In reply to andy-j-s [2009-06-11 16:26:44 +0000 UTC]

Well, that is a good thing.

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andy-j-s In reply to Kelly63 [2009-06-15 20:28:13 +0000 UTC]

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andy-j-s In reply to davincipoppalag [2009-06-09 21:41:10 +0000 UTC]

Thank You

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davincipoppalag In reply to andy-j-s [2009-06-10 01:18:31 +0000 UTC]

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andy-j-s In reply to cycoze [2009-06-09 19:14:18 +0000 UTC]

Thanks Cy
I Have Been Trying To Catch The Entry To The Water On A Dive
Or The Exit With Catch, No Luck Yet Though.

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cycoze In reply to andy-j-s [2009-06-09 20:39:09 +0000 UTC]

Very difficult type of shot to get, I was watching a Smew a few weeks back, I managed to get quite close as it was diving , managed a few shots of it without a polariser under the water and bobbing out, not good enough to show on here but a nice behaviour shot.

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andy-j-s In reply to cycoze [2009-06-09 21:37:51 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I Was Trying Pre-focusing On The Reflection
In The Water As They Hover Above But Unless Your On
A Tripod So You Can Watch Them In The Sky And Starting
Their Dive You Still Miss The Shot lol

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