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ulfus23422 [2022-02-18 19:42:50 +0000 UTC]
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JJohnson1701 [2018-08-23 13:26:34 +0000 UTC]
Interesting.Β I never knew about Swiss claims.Β In my own alt-Switzerland, the only thing I added was the arrondissement of Gex from France.
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WewLad11 [2018-04-16 19:31:05 +0000 UTC]
Really cool map, love the terrain, how did you do it?
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altmaps In reply to WewLad11 [2018-04-18 22:30:46 +0000 UTC]
I used osm-wms.de/ , which projects terrain data on top of OpenStreetMaps. Which is convenient because I use OSM myself to create my basemaps, and thus avoid issues arising from differing map projections.
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WewLad11 In reply to altmaps [2018-04-19 02:15:08 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the tip. How do I look at the hillshade without getting a bunch of broken images with a pink overlay?
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altmaps In reply to WewLad11 [2018-04-19 14:51:58 +0000 UTC]
Right, that requires some fiddling with the site's CSS using your favourite browser's development tools.
(Specifically you'll want to add a CSS rule for the olTileImage class, setting opacity to 1 and specifying !important in order to override existing CSS rules.)
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WewLad11 In reply to altmaps [2018-04-19 18:50:26 +0000 UTC]
Oof not sure exactly how to do that, u using Chrome?
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WewLad11 In reply to altmaps [2018-05-09 04:20:49 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much, can't wait to start using it, a great help!
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GutKnut4703 [2018-02-17 23:23:49 +0000 UTC]
Verry Verry good Job again!
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matritum [2018-02-17 20:02:11 +0000 UTC]
Good work! Really nice map! I think Switzerland should not exist or not include French-speaking and Italian-speaking areas, so it can be made bigger on those sides easily... You removed small absurd cantons and created a more rational division according to languages that are spoken. It's a very smart work. Switzerland is a very curious country and it's funny making maps about it, I elaborated some maps about alternate Switzerland.
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Tonio103 [2018-02-17 13:07:53 +0000 UTC]
If you abolish cantons you can simply say this is not Switzerland as wellβ¦
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altmaps In reply to Tonio103 [2018-02-17 15:20:25 +0000 UTC]
A country does not cease to exist if its subdivisions are reorganized. Was the Helvetic Republic "not Switzerland"? Not in name, no, but there was clear continuity with the Old Confederacy, and subsequently with the restored confederacy. That's "Switzerland" enough for me.
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Tonio103 In reply to altmaps [2018-02-17 16:20:59 +0000 UTC]
Ok, should have phrased it better, i'm sorry i was a bit too harsh.
What i mean by that is that abolishing cantons is clearly strongly going against the national spirit. They represent a big background of tradition and identification in the course of many century.Β
In that Sense, the Helvetic Republic wasn't really Switzerland, but a foreign imposed tyranny. It didn't went well for a reason. Also it was somewhat more respectful of what previously existed than what you're proposing.
In the same vein, the French Kingdom for me died when they abolished the provinces and the Netherlands are not really the same since the end of the United Provinces.Β
Sometime regime and nationhood have a fuzzy distinction. For example, if tomorrow The United States became a centralized Empire or something, it would cease to be the United States. I know it's a bit cheating cause the United States literally use their internal subdivision as name but for me it philosophically apply to many other countries.
Switzerland historically is litteraly that : the league of canton, the confederation. Swiss is a name based upon one of them by some convenience.
If the Switzerland you're showing is still a federation and that the Provinces are "Land" instead, i might consider it more as Switzerland.
I salute some of the choices you made like the Jura province or bigger Ticino or Geneva. Some other are a bit weird. Like Give the whole Aargau to Zurich.
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altmaps In reply to Tonio103 [2018-02-17 18:16:26 +0000 UTC]
No worries, I fully understand your point of view!
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Tonio103 In reply to LoreC10 [2018-02-17 16:16:39 +0000 UTC]
If you're really merciful in your messing with other's afair just partition already, cause having a belgium-like regime is so much worse than that.
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LoreC10 In reply to Tonio103 [2018-02-17 22:00:52 +0000 UTC]
well, Italian part wouldnβt change that much, there would only be the annexation of Valtellinaβ¦
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altmaps In reply to Tonio103 [2018-02-17 18:16:53 +0000 UTC]
Not saying it's a good thing, but it seemed interesting and that's pretty much the thing that drives my mapmaking.
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Tonio103 In reply to altmaps [2018-02-17 22:42:23 +0000 UTC]
I know don't worry ^
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altmaps In reply to LoreC10 [2018-02-17 11:26:20 +0000 UTC]
Admittedly I haven't given any thought as to how this should be administrated. ^^
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LoreC10 In reply to altmaps [2018-02-17 21:59:01 +0000 UTC]
fair enough ^^
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kosmas-j [2018-02-17 09:35:32 +0000 UTC]
You can even add Alsace
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altmaps In reply to kosmas-j [2018-02-17 10:45:59 +0000 UTC]
I agree it would make some cultural sense, but as far as I know this has never been an actual discussion (which was my criterion for the territories added on my map).
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kosmas-j In reply to altmaps [2018-02-17 14:51:16 +0000 UTC]
I've heard it that some Prussian statesmen were against annexing Alsace, saying that giving it to Switzerland is better than annexing
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Tonio103 In reply to altmaps [2018-02-17 12:57:27 +0000 UTC]
The only thing we could imagine is that somehow Mulhausen become more powerful, conquer surrounding countryside and as an ally of the Confederation become part of it later.
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Tonio103 In reply to altmaps [2018-02-17 16:22:01 +0000 UTC]
Indeed, i was just imagining some scenario where a rataching of Elsass would have been partially possible.
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