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alecyl In reply to ??? [2010-10-18 17:00:28 +0000 UTC]

thanks alot
i'm relieved that you take it so easy it was a real pleasure to meet and eventually fight you, i really enjoyed that alot and i'm sure next time you'll get the crown!

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Queen-Squishy In reply to alecyl [2010-10-18 17:03:52 +0000 UTC]

you might want to read my journal hunny bear

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alecyl In reply to Ashlore [2010-10-18 15:08:23 +0000 UTC]

you are free to do so...if you manage to survive the orbital laser strike that'll blow out a chunk of the planet

thanks i'm not exactly fed up, but it's kinda hard to find enough variations of the "thank you" phrase for so many comments

and you should be lucky not to have this turbo mode, i'm sure it cost me years of my life! at least it felt like this when i was done with the fight

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Ashlore In reply to alecyl [2010-10-18 15:23:42 +0000 UTC]

Stupid laser can't harm me.

Maybe you're right, if I had to make this much to win, I'd be dead by now.
Also I must prepare for my diploma. I'll be king some day!

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alecyl In reply to Ashlore [2010-10-18 15:27:58 +0000 UTC]

but maybe the cold vacuum of space can

believe me, it was no pleasant experience! i worked the whole weekend and i was pushed to the edge XD
good luck with that

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Ashlore In reply to alecyl [2010-10-18 15:39:41 +0000 UTC]

Cold vacuum of space is for sissies.

But Hel's demise will be the tsunami of fan pictures.
Better prepare for THAT.

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alecyl In reply to Gregatron [2010-10-18 12:18:30 +0000 UTC]

thank you

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alecyl In reply to Kostmeyer [2010-10-18 12:39:18 +0000 UTC]

i didn't plan on having a final fight at all, but the thought of having hel die in a fight and return this way was in my mind right from the beginning of afl, but i never got the chance to do that before the finale (i also had an idea about a pack of evil furbies in a toystore ripping some opponent apart )

i know what it may look like, but hel isn't that powerful if you see it from my perspective. it's not like in her ascended state she's omnipotent or so, it's more like: where's no technology, she's helpless but where is technology, she can do anything. in the bootsiQ fight, i really had to do some deus ex machina, i give you that, but that's only because i thought it was kinda stupid to simply knock her out

even during the second part of the finale i was still unsure how to end the fight.
on one hand i thought about the people who read this and may demand a furious victory, but on the other, i wanted to treat leighs character with the necessary respect, so i decided that beating her half to death would be of no use and went for the ending i eventually painted

lol, maybe! just ask her assistant (a.k.a. me) to look for a free spot in her schedule!

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alecyl In reply to spin5544 [2010-10-18 12:18:52 +0000 UTC]

all in due time

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alecyl In reply to Bug-Off [2010-10-18 12:19:25 +0000 UTC]

leigh was an amazing opponent and it was much fun to work with her

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Bug-Off In reply to alecyl [2010-10-18 16:20:13 +0000 UTC]

Well you certainly put on a great show for us!

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alecyl In reply to Jebriodo [2010-10-18 12:20:08 +0000 UTC]

thanks alot
well, that's the good old deadline pressure working miracles on me

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alecyl In reply to D3kaB1u3 [2010-10-18 12:21:30 +0000 UTC]

i'm glad you like it
i'll try continue to amaze you next year

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alecyl In reply to SilentNomad [2010-10-18 12:24:12 +0000 UTC]

many thanks
i'm glad that i was able to inspire you in your artistic journey

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SilentNomad In reply to alecyl [2010-10-19 00:31:08 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome

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alecyl In reply to AngelCrusher [2010-10-18 12:47:51 +0000 UTC]

nah, it's the internet, wouldnt be the same without it

glad to hear that! when i develope the plot i see it as a movie before
my eyes and try to put as much of it as possible into the strip!
too bad i can't put slow motion sequences into it, but i always try to emulate that as good as i can
people always say tv makes you dumb, but all those twists and turns the people like so much (and i like to use them alot!) were developed in movies and tv shows

anyway, thanks alot for afl, i really hope you are going for a fifth installment!
...i already have an idea for a character i'd throw in to silence all those people who seem to have a beef with cosmic characters!

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AngelCrusher In reply to alecyl [2010-10-18 22:36:06 +0000 UTC]

hehe, go with the greased up naked guy from family guy. As stripped down as they get.

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alecyl In reply to AngelCrusher [2010-10-18 23:09:26 +0000 UTC]

no no, they will learn about the ultimate badassery!
and once they faced this character, they'll cry for hel to come back!

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AngelCrusher In reply to alecyl [2010-10-18 23:31:35 +0000 UTC]

my little pony on steroids?

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alecyl In reply to AngelCrusher [2010-10-19 09:39:40 +0000 UTC]

you'll see once afl5 is coming

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alecyl In reply to ClockwerkSoul [2010-10-17 21:48:12 +0000 UTC]

just for the info: leighs character is immortal aswell and reforms herself from her ashes, so there's nothing to complain about
and there's no rule that denies a character to have such an ability and to make use of it

well, at some point the fighting had to end XD
i delivered 2 parts of heavy fighting, so i decided to conclude it a little more calm

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ClockwerkSoul In reply to alecyl [2010-10-17 22:47:54 +0000 UTC]

I read, and besides, I think its 's first developed character for...anything, I guess. Unless you can send me a link of another character to counter this, I'm sticking to it.

Still, it looked like this last page was an ass pull. I don't remember anything even hinting towards the revelation. All I could see from reading Hel's fights were that she was an ancient, super-intelligent being who builds lots and lots of robots. I don't really see where the 'energy-being' idea came from in this fight or any of the previous ones.

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alecyl In reply to ClockwerkSoul [2010-10-17 23:05:35 +0000 UTC]

you know what? i'm fed up with all this debating. i could tell you about like 50 other characters who did things their profiles didnt inform about or that i didn't develope hel for afl in the first place, but i really don't fucking care!
i delivered a story with lot's of action and plot twists and cliffhangers and all kinds of other stuff to make sure it is a thrilling read for everyone.
also i didn't win it with the five point palm heart explosion technique, so leave me alone for gods sake.

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ClockwerkSoul In reply to alecyl [2010-10-18 00:28:27 +0000 UTC]

Jeez, can you please calm down? You are taking this way too personally.

Yes, there have been, and are going to be, people who use characters for AFL with ridiculous powers and such. Its going to happen and not a lot of people are going to catch them for it. You are a different sort, though. You seem to create characters of incredible power and skill. However, this can result in other people creating characters like that just to stand a chance. It feels disappointing that less baseline characters (i.e. Cell, The Fowl, etc.) seem to be popping up in AFL.

Also, I'm not complaining about all of your artwork. Its amazing, and you really know how to design characters. Your stories are also impressive, albeit when your own characters tend to act 'unsurprised' at events around them. This is supposed to be a criticism to benefit you, but you do not seem to take the time to understand the point behind it all. You have this incredible talent and some of us are trying to help you with it. You got to accept the good with the bad in life, especially in artwork. Not everyone would be accepting with your work like most of us in AFL.

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alecyl In reply to ClockwerkSoul [2010-10-18 12:17:10 +0000 UTC]

i'm not responsible for what others do.
when i entered with hel, i checked the contestants who were signed up so far and most of them were hand to hand street level fighters, so i thought bringing a more exotic character into the mix wouldn't hurt.
sadly most of the people who entered with those hand to hand characters didnt submit many fights, but thats not my fault.
and it doesn't matter what kind of character you bring in anyway, as long as the writing works.
most of the time hel didn't even use her powers at all. she beat her opponents with a magic revolver, a jar, coffeem j. jonah jameson and some even beat themselves.
so i resolved most of my fights with creative storytelling, if you have the feeling that a stronger or godlike character will ensure you a higher ranking in afl then go for it, i won't stop you.

and don't you think i know that? your judgement is influenced only by plague and hel, but both are characters that are taken out of their original stories and environments where they are very much balanced out by the other characters of those stories, but i can only pick one, not ten or twenty. (i'll upload a little epilogue for hel when i'm through all the comments, there you'll meet her boss, who is way out of her league)

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ClockwerkSoul In reply to alecyl [2010-10-18 18:28:30 +0000 UTC]

I respect creativity, but not when it goes beyond the boundaries of logic at times. Your work tends to miss different details of characters both OCs and famous characters. You give traits to characters that won't fit them properly,like 's Eric. You made him look more confident and awe-inspiring, where he is more portrayed as unsure and self-conscious of his actions. Also, 's El Maldito is supposed to only speak Spanish, yet you clearly have him speaking English. Its not like the tech isn't available where you could switch English to Spanish (I found a site that could do that), but it just seems to be ignored for that matter. Then, there is J. Jonah Jameson. When the hell did he work at a network studio? Why did he confuse El Maldito for Spider-Man? How the hell does he know Sylar? I can understand trying to create humor, but not when it breaks down the walls of comic book reality. Its just...too weird.

That's the thing, its just your stories where they are most balanced. AFL is an entirely different story in of itself. Just because your character might be 'exotic' doesn't mean they would fit well with the other characters of AFL.

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alecyl In reply to ClockwerkSoul [2010-10-18 18:59:20 +0000 UTC]

are you even reading what you are writing?
seriously, you should consider doing this before sending a message away, because if you did, you'd notice how ridiculous that just sounded.

just to sum it up for you: you just tried to tell me about comic book realism...in something like afl? dude, are you blind or something? with such a mixture of different characters, worlds and whatnot, how can you seriously speak of comic book realism?

here are some facts about afl:
1. it is NO comic book.
2. it is a contest where creativity wins.
3. there are NO rules that bind the contestants to any kind of realism in storytelling. besides no killing there are NO rules that bind the contestants to anything to win their fights at all.

so everything you think is important simply does not apply in afl. nobody cares if something is realistic. nobody cares if it's even logical. nobody cares because it was never a part of afl. well, nobody but you, because of whatever reasons you might have.

and just to make it clear: you might think that you found some inconsequence in my work (by me being realistic in some fights and in others not or whatever) you can complain about, but here's how it works: it's afl and i can do anything i want, when i want and how i want as long as i don't kill my opponent.
and look, it seems to have worked out pretty well for me so far, don't you think?
i mean being the winner of the whole gig and all...you know.

so before you start bitching around about so incredibly unimportant details next time, you should consider thinking about the given conditions of such an event and if your "critique" is actually critique and not jealousy or something else.
(and just for the record: no matter if you think you had good intentions or not, the way you write just sounds like you enjoy bitching around.)

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ClockwerkSoul In reply to alecyl [2010-10-18 22:00:36 +0000 UTC]

My bitching has a point to it. I'm a comic book fan by heart, having raised by them thanks to my grandpa. I've always preferred to have continuity with my reading, so I do the same whenever I write or draw. I've always appreciated any continuity nods or foreshadowing in stories, so its why I've viewed AFL as just one big story reaching its climax. So when I read through your submissions up til your crowning as AFL winner...I was underwhelmed and a bit disappointed.

The only real thing I'm jealous about is your artwork. The speed and workmanship you have in your work is incredible. Its something to be admired, not hated. I've always wanted to have drawing talent like yourself. Unfortunately, I did not end up so lucky.

So, enjoy your success for now in AFL and in the finishing Secret Wars. I only hope that your talent is not wasted over minor concerns.

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alecyl In reply to ClockwerkSoul [2010-10-18 23:07:55 +0000 UTC]

if you want to have continuity and all that stuff comic books deliver, you should consider the possibility that afl might not be the right place for you.
neither is it one big story nor do its participants care about things like that.
they do it for fun and to proceed in their fights, not to please you with a continuous and perfect plot. that's not what afl was meant for.
instead of complaining about all that, you should accept the fact that afl is no comic book and never will be.
and i really don't care if you feel disappointed or underwhelmed by that because it's not like i'm your personal entertainer.
i delivered fun, action, cliffhangers and good art and it enjoyed the majority of the afl people.
and you have absolutely no right to demand anything just so you are personally satisfied.
if you want all that then go for it and put it in your own fights.

and here's a tip: if you are jealous, thats good. but only if you use that jealousy to get your ass up and practice to get better. the moment you start feeling only frustrated about someone eleses "talent" youve already lost.
you think i'm talented? no, i'm not. talent is an illusion. i'm just a stubborn bastard who wanted to learn how to do what i do now by all means. i worked hard and practiced for about 7 years now, so if you want to get better, stop crying and start working.

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AngelCrusher In reply to ClockwerkSoul [2010-10-18 11:57:02 +0000 UTC]

I think its a fine line between constructive criticism and comments that seem abit bitter and negative, and thats what came across.

If I was being constructive, I would compliment the artwork, the structure, the panels, the technique, the hard work, and say I would love to see what they could do with a character stripped of powers so that the artist could really challenge themselves in a storytelling aspect as well as character development.

There is no negative comment in what I made. Hel is very much like Zerkov I guess as they are both obscenely powerful characters and thats how they play out. But should people get criticized for it? No.

While I dont think you meant anything really harshly or personally, sometimes you have to watch what you type online, as tones and suggestions are harder to read between the lines.

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ClockwerkSoul In reply to AngelCrusher [2010-10-18 13:50:33 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I tend to over-react at times. I didn't grow up with strict parents, so I didn't learn how to control what should be the proper thing to say to someone. Its hard to not feel a bit of jealousy over good work.

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AngelCrusher In reply to ClockwerkSoul [2010-10-18 22:31:44 +0000 UTC]

everyone just needs a censor button or alarm to flash just to remind them to check what they are doing before they actually do it.

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ClockwerkSoul In reply to AngelCrusher [2010-10-18 22:36:54 +0000 UTC]

I think with and I, we need referees. This probably the 3rd argument we've got ourselves into.

I blame myself for being jealous of his artwork and my die-hard nature as a comic book fan.

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AngelCrusher In reply to ClockwerkSoul [2010-10-18 22:48:01 +0000 UTC]

hehe just remember in the future to cool it. Maybe you need a grudge match to truly settle it.

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ClockwerkSoul In reply to AngelCrusher [2010-10-18 22:56:56 +0000 UTC]

Good thinking, but I doubt would agree to it.

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AngelCrusher In reply to ClockwerkSoul [2010-10-18 22:59:03 +0000 UTC]

who knows, a chance to shut you up and kick your ass?

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ClockwerkSoul In reply to AngelCrusher [2010-10-18 23:04:12 +0000 UTC]

Huh, that could work.

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alecyl In reply to jakester2008 [2010-10-17 21:08:51 +0000 UTC]

thank you

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