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AceDarkfire In reply to Desert-Chimera [2008-10-20 02:43:24 +0000 UTC]

Crusader, Stinger, Wasp, Valkyrie, Warhammer, Marauder, Ostsol, Ostroc, Ostscout, Rifleman and some others came from Robotech (Which in turn, came from Macross), and FASA couldn't produce the license to use them.

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Desert-Chimera In reply to AceDarkfire [2008-10-20 18:59:57 +0000 UTC]

That explains their sudden disappearance in later games.

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AceDarkfire In reply to Desert-Chimera [2008-10-21 17:14:18 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it sucks, because I personally feel they fit in with the "homebrewed" 'Mechs in the Technical Readouts, much more so than the current reseen jokes that look like half-assed attempts to blend the "Real Mech" genre with the "Anime Mech" genre.

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Desert-Chimera In reply to AceDarkfire [2008-10-21 18:55:04 +0000 UTC]

I've seen a few things that actually worked in. Key word there, though is "few."

The Marauder was my favorite, second only to the Timberwolf. I did like how the Jenner handled though...

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TDBK In reply to AceDarkfire [2008-10-20 05:46:46 +0000 UTC]

Yeah Harmony Gold Sued FASA and could have won the suit except they messed up during the discovery phase and released 3 pages of info that actually hurt their case. So, Both companies ended up settling out of court. (Basically FASA agreed to not use any Macross designs.) FASA never lost the lawsuit though. They could still use most of the other non Macross designs at this time..

BUT,

Then FASA sued PLAYMATES over EXOSQUAD. EXOSQUAD completely ripped off Battletech images.

In 2007 Randall N. Bills finally explained that FASA had sued Playmates over the use of images owned by FASA, but received no compensation, even though Playmates was ordered to stop using the images in question. After realizing how the use of licensed images made them vulnerable to lawsuits and afraid that such a suit would bankrupt the company, FASA made the decision to only use images owned by them and them alone. The BattleMechs taken from the various anime sources were then considered "Unseen".

Sources - FASA V PLAYMATES (it's a small .zip file) --
[link]

Source Harmony Gold V FASA -->

1 [link]

2 [link]

Yes, this was an obsession of mine for years.

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AceDarkfire In reply to TDBK [2008-10-20 07:01:27 +0000 UTC]

And those original "ripped" drawings fit in more with BattleTech than the current "reseen" incarnations, a lot of which look like they're done in the Manga Art style, and are comparatively just under-detailed from the original "technical" drawings and even those of the limited perspective drawings of the OmniMechs in the 3050 tech readout.

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AceDarkfire In reply to TDBK [2008-10-20 02:07:40 +0000 UTC]

It's a detailing style I wanted to try, and figured that the Crusader model was as good a time as any, unfortunately, if you can't tell, it plays havoc with Anti-Aliasing.

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TDBK In reply to AceDarkfire [2008-10-20 05:12:31 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, those grooves are a bitch sometimes. I feel your pain with that. You can try and do a really small bevel on each edge and it could help. Unless you've done that already. Then.. it's uping the AA until you don't have it anymore. Sometimes just upping the size of the render will take care of it but if you re-size it it'll come back to haunt you. You probably know all of this already though.. haha. Keep it up man. I always enjoy your mechs.

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