valerieg In reply to Behind-walls [2011-11-12 06:20:16 +0000 UTC]

i'll support you, i just don't have facebook yet. do yu follow tasya van ree if you don't do!!!! she has facebook plus blog that connects all her other projects tasyavanree.com

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Behind-walls In reply to valerieg [2011-11-12 07:34:13 +0000 UTC]

Yes I saw Tasya van ree, I like her work

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valerieg In reply to CathleenTarawhiti [2010-06-23 09:49:06 +0000 UTC]

i so effed up. I'm actually a member of 5 writing groups here. It so much easier to critique the visual arts vs writing. But as a member, since I haven't submitted anything, I'm trying to make a concerted effort to critique when there is a request for it.

Well there was a request. So instead of wasting an hour writing about everything that was wrong. I just rewrote the first three lines. I compressed what was there to show that the lines could be shortened and still retain the feeling. No flaming no bloodletting. Whatever. I was just trying to save time.

The response was very belittling and bitchy. My response started as follows:
"If you didn't think the lines I wrote weren't good, then perhaps it was because I started out with such a mediocre work to begin with. After all, I only compressed what was there." And the hilarity ensued from there.

The first line of the poem is:

"I am haunted by your olfactory presence."

I think you can figure it out from there. But whoever it is , is probably just a kid. There are actually teenagers on this site.I think I ended the note with" It would be great if you could at least learn the fundamentals before you start butchering the English language."

Too much?:shame:

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vattaran In reply to valerieg [2010-06-24 12:58:13 +0000 UTC]

im personally acquainted w/aj. he's a well educated, experienced writer who's received recognition for years on 2 continents. he isnt a kid, which is evident by the patient maturity he used when giving you suggestions & resources to improve your ability to critique. but were you the most gifted lit crit that ever graced these web pages, your above minimalising of your original offence in rewriting someone's work, your gloating about your ensuing rudeness when he objected to your rewrite, & your unfounded libel about who he is, all show that you are someone who should never be left alone in the room with a written submission. since you apparently equate the concepts of evisceration & constructive criticism, perhaps you could remain silent next time you encounter someone's work which you do not like.

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iPawed In reply to valerieg [2010-06-24 10:16:28 +0000 UTC]

Quote, from deviantART specifications on critiques:

"Critiques should be thoughtful, in depth responses to the work."

How do you, in any stretch of the imagination, believe that rewriting a small section of his work and making a horribly inept and incorrect statement, then later bashing him because he was unimpressed with your response is in any way accordance to the line above?

Do you even know how to critique, or are you just trying to boost your own ego?

A critique does not involve rewriting a work; maybe restructuring a sentence, but not pulling it to pieces and then gluing it back together to simply be shorter and your gall in saying that you did not have time to address all that was wrong with it when in actuality there is nothing wrong at all infuriates me beyond belief.

Shorter and more concise does not equal poetry: in fact, poetry has very few rules at all, least of all about that. More to the point, he's already expressed that he's not trying to be a poet, so quit harping on about it, as it's therefore totally invalid.

And how can you judge an entire piece on one line? That's offensive to anyone with a love for literature - ever heard of the quote, judging a book by it's cover?

You do not answer our questions; where is proof of how brilliant you are? Also, you continue to assume we are attacking you. And okay, no, I don't like you: I am making negative judgements based on what you've given me to understand in your responses. Angel has not; but you attack him, saying he's making all sorts of unfair comments about you when he does not.

You say he's a kid: I'd hazard he is potentially older than you. He's been here seven years after all. I'm the teenager here: I'm only nineteen and I am ashamed by your lack of comprehension.

I'm ashamed to share a gender with you.

You so far have been the only one to butcher the language, I've noticed as well; the only one who does not understand the words that she uses. The concepts of the arts she's trying to "edit" or "critique".

Man up, and prove to us that you are as brilliant as you blather on about.

Prove it - I dare you.

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rottedaspersions In reply to valerieg [2010-06-24 05:28:35 +0000 UTC]

Darling, you'd best not start complaining about other people's work when you decide to take the offensive and re-write it.

You don't re-write someone's work. Ever. Period. End of discussion.

Oh, and by the way? If you can't do visual arts, it may be best not to critique those either. Seeing as you're mediocre at best as a writer, it's hard to imagine you'd be able to properly phrase even the lightest of criticism without offending. Or would you prefer to redo the artist's work as well?

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valerieg In reply to rottedaspersions [2010-06-24 05:47:53 +0000 UTC]

I'm not playing, and this isn't your fight.

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rottedaspersions In reply to valerieg [2010-06-24 05:51:35 +0000 UTC]

You made it such through your behavior. All I'm doing is being straightforward with my opinion of you. You didn't have to dignify it with a response.

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