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# Comments
Comments: 17
ShirraPikachu [2013-04-24 18:28:53 +0000 UTC]
I hope you realize that you're still infringing on copyright, even if you credit the original artist. You need to first get permission to alter or modify an image in some way, not altering it and then taking it down when the original artist discovers it.
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pkkotlar In reply to ShirraPikachu [2013-04-24 18:53:36 +0000 UTC]
really what copyright?
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ShirraPikachu In reply to pkkotlar [2013-04-24 19:21:11 +0000 UTC]
Copyright law. The original creators of the images hold copyright over them, and by editing them without permission, you infringe (break the law) on this copyright. It also violates dA's copyright policy [link] , which, by joining the website you agree to comply with.
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pkkotlar In reply to ShirraPikachu [2013-04-24 20:20:33 +0000 UTC]
First off if i'm moding a picture of "my little pony" the only group that has legal ownership is Hasbro. Honestly everyone else (except people that received permission) that are making my little pony art are copyright infringing in the first place. Also having a copyright ownership over anything you need to do certain paper work which gives you copyrights for their art, therefore DA doesn't give you copyright laws. But DA does give you special rights only for their site; which I do agree.
Also Q for you(Voice of Justice), DA gets ownership over all the art on their site, and if there is modifications of art inside their site that would still make those mods DA's. Unless DA goes out of their way with giving everyone their own real world copyright privileges.
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ShirraPikachu In reply to pkkotlar [2013-04-25 19:04:06 +0000 UTC]
Actually, you are only somewhat correct. While hasbro does hold the copyright of the characters, and that fan-art creators would technically need permission to do so, the original creators usually don't care much and it's near impossible to reach them (doubtful they would even take thge time to respond to such a question, either.) But, you are wrong were the actual "copyright" law is concerned. To "copyright" something, it just has to be your original creation. By drawing a picture or writing a poem/story, you automatically own the copyright -- no paperwork required. You can get an offical document, if you want, but that's a hassle and really does nothing more then give you a 'physical' copy of your copyright.
( Under most national laws and international copyright treaties you receive a copyright automatically in any original work as you make it. Registration may be required to exercise some rights, like commencing a lawsuit. Copyright does NOT protect ideas. Copyright protects the expression of ideas or the ways in which an idea is materially placed or expressed in the work.)
Well, dA doesn't automatically claim YOUR copyright for YOUR creative works. The copyright is still yours, deviantart is simply a host website. What do you mean by "real world copyright privileges?" All deviantart does is offer a place to view works and post your own, and sell them. If it's your creation, you own the rights to that, plain and simple. They state this clearly in their terms of service: DeviantART is, unless otherwise stated, the owner of all copyright and data rights in the Service and its contents. Individuals who have posted works to deviantART are either the copyright owners of the component parts of that work or are posting the work under license from a copyright owner or his or her agent or otherwise as permitted by law. You may not reproduce, distribute, publicly display or perform, or prepare derivative works based on any of the Content including any such works without the express, written consent of deviantART or the appropriate owner of copyright in such works. deviantART does not claim ownership rights in your works or other materials posted by you to deviantART (Your Content).
I suggest reading dA's copyright policy -- but since you don't seem to want to, here's so copy-pasted keypointers from it.
Some examples of copyright infringement (this is only a partial listing) can include:
Placing someone else's photograph or creative work online without proper permission.
Using a creative work commercially without permission.
Adapting someone else's creative work found in one medium to another medium, such as making a book into a movie or a photograph into a painting.
Modifying or editing a creative work without proper permission.
A work is not required to have a copyright statement printed on it or near it in order to be considered copyrighted so do not assume that the work is unprotected simply because you cannot see a notice written anywhere.
Also do not confuse the fact that a work is publicly available with the idea that it is in the public domain or free for use. Being easy to find on the internet does not affect a work's copyrighted status.
In most cases it does not matter how much of the material you have used, whether it's a single frame, a few moments of audio, a short clip of video or any other sampling it's still considered to be protected by copyright and you still require the owner's permission for use.
It doesn't matter how you obtained the material, it's still considered copyrighted and you still need permission.
It doesn't matter whether or not you've credited the proper owner, it's still considered copyrighted and you still need permission.
It doesn't matter if you are not selling it or making a profit, it's still considered copyrighted and you still need permission.
It doesn't matter if you can find other people using things without permission, it's still considered copyrighted and you still need permission.
It doesn't matter if you've edited it a little bit or made a few alterations, if it's recognizable it's still considered copyrighted and you still need permission.
Read licenses carefully to understand the type of permission they provide. For example, there are many versions of the Creative Commons - each giving different permissions.
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pkkotlar In reply to ShirraPikachu [2013-04-27 03:23:49 +0000 UTC]
Ok!(sigh) I am impressed that you have gone thru all this trouble of posting all ^that^, but if you got to make a point might as well go all the way. We have things that we agree on and disagree, but that doesn't matter any more. You know why because i'm going to update that statement that is making me look like a idiot, as well as i am going to ask for permission from artists for moding their art. THERE HAPPY! (Changing my views on these copyright laws will never change so don't even try anymore)
Also just curious how did you even find me, it is not like you read everyone's posts, OH never mind i think i got flagged for life that's why? I know that i was notified once by jesseii but were there others (no names are necessary)?
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ShirraPikachu In reply to pkkotlar [2013-04-27 03:40:45 +0000 UTC]
I'm not trying to change your "views" on copyright...those are straight up laws -- facts, not my personal opinion.
No, I read about a dispute with a friend and you. So I decided to check your profile, and after reading your stance and misunderstanding of copyright I jumped in and pointed out a few flaws.
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pkkotlar In reply to ShirraPikachu [2013-04-27 04:10:02 +0000 UTC]
No i completely understand that these are the laws that we are governed by, just I believe that they should be different(my views), yes I know how childish and stubborn.
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pkkotlar In reply to pkkotlar [2013-04-27 04:55:49 +0000 UTC]
Is it rational I believe it is insanity (Definition of insanity = doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results) To ask an artist for permission to modify their art (high end) to what you think is fit is insanity, why, because there is such a astronomical chance that they will say "Hell, NO". I absolutely understand why they would say no, but sometimes it seems that the artist doesn't understand some of the viewers, that's where i come in. I try to gather rest of the viewers and pool them back to the original artist with a mod that makes viewers enjoy their art more, and HOPEFULLY the original artist gets more well deserved future views. YEAH I KNOW THAT IS COPYRIGHT INFRINGING whatever but at the end of the day I just want those artists to get more respect.
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ShirraPikachu In reply to pkkotlar [2013-04-27 04:15:09 +0000 UTC]
I personally don't. It's somebodies work, it's perfectly rational to ASK before TAKING and CHANGING something.
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