nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2021-12-10 17:06:59 +0000 UTC]

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nishlanin In reply to AndreaSilva60 [2016-02-26 23:09:25 +0000 UTC]

You are welcome! And I should say the same as well. Thank you for the watch!

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AndreaSilva60 In reply to nishlanin [2016-02-27 18:43:57 +0000 UTC]

^^

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-01-06 12:26:38 +0000 UTC]

I'm not a LARPer myself (mainly because you cannot find any decent LARPs were I live.), but I love the work that goes into the costumes, character backgrounds, and actual events. Thanks a lot though!

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NikitaTarsov In reply to nishlanin [2016-01-06 12:50:31 +0000 UTC]

This problem sounds well known:/

We managed the problem in creating our own LARP, and it was the best we could have done. 
But i wish you good luck with your works(i also had to face my leather resources....soon....)^^

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-01-07 06:11:42 +0000 UTC]

Not surprising. I don't know much about running LARPs, but I know that the equipment is expensive. For example there is a brand of Canadian LARP Weaponry called "calimacil" where the average sword costs maybe $100-$150 CAN (65€-100€ roughly) and if you want even better gear, you could be looking at over $200 CAN! The a decent set up cheap armour is hundreds of dollars! Lots of money. Say I you are German. You ever go to Drakenfest an conquest of Mythodea?

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NikitaTarsov In reply to nishlanin [2016-01-07 12:25:22 +0000 UTC]

Well, one of the two critical ponts we had was the uprising intention of players to brag with ther money. So the scene turns very much to a catwalk of status :/
But as i startet('kay that´s....23 years ago xD) with LARP, ther was no need to wear super exensive armor&cloth. Most arms had been build by people at ther own(what had the consequence that ther is a root position for juristical "save" weapons(all hail the TÜV(kind of ministery for technically safteness, from cars over knifes to service of any kind) ) - i have seen in America most people run around with hard plastic sticks to fight, or unsave tools of fighting simulation in general...we have limitations of core(fiberglass only, on top protectet through a hat of leather to prevent a cut through the head of the weapon), blade material(cheap camping mattress in layers, cut into forms you like, as long as ther is enough space between core and enemy), and plumb tape(to balance the weapon, if you like it, but take care it isen´t too heavy or too unbalanced, what could make the weapon painfull quick). 

All materials + good glue + soft leather for handle + latex milk for coating and a bit color pouder from the oil painting store doesn´t cost too much. I would estimate you get along with 40-50Euro(some of this stuff is cheaper in America) for a easy weapon, and for sure it get´s much more cheap if you make more than one weapon. Btw. all of this stuff can be ordered online, and all(exept color pouder, latex milk and fibre glass core) can be found in bigger craft stores. 
Ah, let me seee....yay, i found my old construction workflow pictures
11102012(009) by NikitaTarsov 15102012(021) by NikitaTarsov
maybe that show´s how easy it can be to save some money^^

I didn´t get to LARP since i made this and so i´m actually too lazy to coat it(it smels while dry, so...don´t choose winter or summer(cuze of the temperatures) and prepare a place outside the living rooms )

Depending on clothing, i have a martial art trousers for 20-30 bugs i also wear in normal life, brown or black working/trooper boots, and a self sewn Poncho(medevil style, not mexican xD).
Yeah armor is the most tricky part but, with a bit of crafting skills and patience you can easily build your own chainmail(or order a butcherchainmail of little platings to protect this guys while cutting flesh with reaaally sharp knifes). Normal rings can be bought, or made with wire you fix on a rod, and put that rod into a power drill, the wire is winding up, than you put off the rod and cut rings out of the spiral. Internet has a lot of tutorials to "sew" chainmails with this rings. I know people who make a complete, long version with arms in a day(what..is quite awesome btw).
Mine is a lil' bit loco version, cause a friend had tried to sew a chainmail of 1,5cm-keyrings.....i´m...well protectet xD
(a ass full of work IMHO)

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German yes, but never meet those supersized events. Those are the final funerals for LARP, with all ther comercialising. On such events, the game itself, or the charakter play is worth nothing. All is a big school floor with da cool kids in shiny armor bashing others to feel great. And you pay a minimum of 150 bugs for the cheapest ticket(75 as NPC whre you was treaten like dirt). 
As reference, we made events with 125 players/NPCs and had a very huge area(Germany is way smaller, so free area is much harder to get here. And most time you have to pay for it). We have mobile toilets in addition to warm sanitary, we have free water easy to get, a warm apartments for additional money in range for those who don´t have/don´t want to carry a tent and even a event insurance(what the big comercial events in 80% dont have How can anyone be so ignorant and short mindet?! And why noone sue them to hell!?!....mhm, Germany....). So we had all the stuff that cost money, but our price was calculatet with 10-50 Euro(50 if you came the last day, with no booking - and even this price is just a educational thing, nothing economically needet). OH! And we had full breakfast for the NPC´s ! xD
I have friends they visit this events, and all tell the same - yes, you can meet people you didn´t see often, but it´s a swamp of bitchy people and bitchy organizers. And in the end...we also had visitors from all ends of Germany:shurg:

Sorry for the grammar and the length...one thing lead to another....you know...^^

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-01-10 14:54:41 +0000 UTC]

I have heard that Germans know how to run LARPs very well. And from what you are saying, this confirms it.

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NikitaTarsov In reply to nishlanin [2016-01-15 19:06:14 +0000 UTC]

Thanx for the - not fully earned - compliment^^ Many LARP´s in all kind of size are shitty, bad organised and just made to fill organizer pocket...or better up ther ego. 

For coincidence i once meet the first guy who startet the comercialising of LARP in Germany....i could had stop this terror with a single, unfortunate accident x.x
Well...if the world would be that easy.....

Hehe, we made our LARP to keep the feeling and the scene, not to earn money. But all people of this biz told us "you will not earn enough and get bencroupt", "Players will not feel responsible for ther behavior for such low prices" and a thousend other excuses for 'you bitches damage our gold lode with your low prices'. 

Other events are just bad planned and not worked out professional just cause the people don´t know how (easy) this can be done, and that is important. I can imagine that it´s the same thing in American or Canadian LARPs. 

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-01-16 18:14:14 +0000 UTC]

Well, you're welcome. As I said, I don't LARP myself, so I will have to take your word for it. Though I think I know what you mean. I suppose what makes a good LARP is how the story is written and executed, along with how skilled the GMs are and how dedicated they are to running the game so everyone has a good time. Of course, you are the guy who LARPs, so you tell me.

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NikitaTarsov In reply to nishlanin [2016-02-06 16:13:28 +0000 UTC]

^^
Oh, maybe i have dropped that at some point, sry. So at last you´re save from this abyss of disappointment/unfairness it can bring. But netherless i would wish you a lucky try sometime, cuze some of my memories a really cool. A good fair fight between friends is a great thing

In the end, the same way all Pen&Paer rpg´s went. Or real life if we generalize a bit more. 

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-02-07 13:09:33 +0000 UTC]

Well, thank you. I would like to LARP. Only real problem is finding one. And I am more of a gamer.

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-01-10 14:45:09 +0000 UTC]

To be honest, a lot of Canadian and American LARPers tend to use what is called a boffer, a pool noodle pulled over a PVC pipe. Covered with duct tape.

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NikitaTarsov In reply to nishlanin [2016-01-15 19:15:10 +0000 UTC]

Hm, okay well, that seem to make the job. Not very sexy but effectiv to play - and i should be silent with any critiqe about unsexy weapons for my point of hating all this elite-LARPers

That´s very much the basic of our staff weapons. Latex coating has the benefit that you can easily carve wodden structures or metal chiselling into the material(we use pipe insulation, with - as always - fibre glass staff soul) and preserve this structure with the latex skin(what additionally get a better optic through the color you can create with the pouders). This boffers are very much German weapons minus four fast cuts with a knife. 
Many older or damaged weapons you see here are fixed with duct tape. My loved twohanded sword has this second skin for.....7-8 years now and works fine^^

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-02-07 13:02:41 +0000 UTC]

You know, chiselling away material is your standard way they make those over priced weapons. Just out of coincidence, there is a series of maybe 6-7 10 minute videos on how to make a sword from camp foam with a coating of duct tape that actually looks not all that bad in that it still looks like a sword. Duct tape, versatile stuff.

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NikitaTarsov In reply to nishlanin [2016-02-23 21:14:52 +0000 UTC]

I once worked on film sets, i worked on event managment companys, and i manage LARP´s - it IS versatile stuff! Broken things - Duct. Broken cloth - Duct. Broken people - Duct xD

Yeah, a few cuts with a knife make a difference of hundrets on bugs

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-02-24 22:02:05 +0000 UTC]

Defiantly agree over here.

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-01-10 14:41:05 +0000 UTC]

You know what a lot of Canadians and Americans seem to do with their LARP weapons? Cover them in duct tape. Apparently this actually works.

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-01-10 14:37:48 +0000 UTC]

I can see what you mean about massive LARPs. I suppose that they receive all the media coverage and have large scale advertising so everyone has heard about them, so the organizers start profiteering. I see why that would anger smaller LARPs. And they are that arrogant!?! Amazing!

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NikitaTarsov In reply to nishlanin [2016-01-15 19:21:55 +0000 UTC]

Yes....i think nothing can inflate over a point where the wolfes came to bit off something of the cake. Too many people want too much and different things, and all fails. Media attention is small for LARP, but all documentations saw those fat events as representative and get there. But to be honest, i was asked for such a reporation also, and i saw that all perspections are allready made by people who meet, like and use this new asocial LARP´s for ther private life. So i not even had been able to correct this view of our LARP scene....

We once had a 16 year old guy who formaly was a GM of Mythodea. With 16 he´s not even a person in law. He couldn´t be responsible for his work, and such basic rules of law are not known by people who manage a 3000-people-event?
They must have fast jets or must be extrem replaceable....

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-02-07 12:55:28 +0000 UTC]

Wait, to play mythodea, don't you have to be 18 in the first place? A lot of the roleplay that goes on there is quite mature. And they employ underage game masters?

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NikitaTarsov In reply to nishlanin [2016-02-23 21:11:45 +0000 UTC]

Obviously. And i think it´s quite shocking....

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-02-24 22:01:06 +0000 UTC]

Most shocking and hypocritical.

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-01-10 14:31:46 +0000 UTC]

I have seen weapons built like that before. What is funny is that it is almost the exact same way that a company in Canada called Atliers-Nemesis over in the province of Quebec make their weapons. And they are known for expensive swords. Look at the LARP sword episode of "how things are made" on youtube to see what I mean.

As for armour, chainmail is truly a pain in general. I am in the very slow process of building a display suit of samurai armour and I am doing the around the rod method for the chainmail. By hand. But, I have a couple links that might help you with armour. The beauty of samurai armour is the fact that a lot of it doesn't require much chainmail. You should be able to substitute plastic for metal. A lot of the designs are what is called lamellar.

This is the main site I have been using for Japanese armour.

www.sengokudaimyo.com/katchu/k…

The next site is a forum thread that I have to warn you is quite long (25 pages currently). But it is an interesting read. He is making real armour of the type called a yushman. A form of Turkish armour. Basically plated mail. He also makes 2 daggers and a sword. It may give you a few good ideas.

myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.p…

I hope these links help armour wise. Costume wise, if you know how to sew, then we are on the absolute best site I know of for patterns. For medieval patterns, look up a user named "eqos". She has a lot of great patterns. And just keep your eyes open for good fabric. You can just cut up bedding for fabric. I do all the time. Look at some Japanese clothing patterns as well if you want extremely easy clothing to make.

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NikitaTarsov In reply to nishlanin [2016-01-15 19:56:41 +0000 UTC]

Yes i know them, nice designs, nasty prices. And not worth them, but people pay this prices so....i´m off the economic logic while anger about it. Netherless....

Hehe, well well. I never tried my own, just was looking and be amazed by that. 
Yes, leather is my favorit thing too. For working as well as for looking at it. I still have a couple of dead cows in my basement waiting for become armor(just...the flat parts of them). But i stoped going to LARPs very much, no matter if this will change some day. And so i´m lazy with mastering leather. 
I know some techniqes to use this cut-out roundet parts of a rain barrel(don´t know the right term) and coat them with soft leather to make easy leather armor. But they don´t look very amazing and you have to watch out that solid parts don´t get bashed against you throat. 

The Yushman seems interesting, but heavy and not granting the solid kinetic conduction of a solid plate. The Lamellar has a interesting sub version that found rare use on fullplates. The Lorina. Ther are full platings, but with three or four scale-like layers instead of a single plate on the torso. Extrem cool!
Always wantet to get something in Leather, but it cost 400-700bugs in cataloges O.O

For prefering a most chinese combat style(very fast, mobile and....yes - posing) i tried a Kimono style cloth. but it makes trouble, and i gues i had an idea why Samurai don´t move anything as ther arms that fast in combat. But now i have a more old arabian style like...damn i didn´t find a better explanation - like the elbian prince in Hellboy 2. Combined with a Nagamaki and a fine longsword. And the best thing is - i can hide my armor under the cloth, so i can wear whatever i want, actually the special chainmail that have double layer hardent steel rings. Guess many knights of medievil time had wantet THIS protection xD
And another gift of a friend, a authentic jerkin of cotton, filled with horse hair. And btw real ballistic protection xD (it has stoped a lonbow arrow on fifty meters without penetration in a test....without me in it). 

When i get back to the crafting(and i hope so) it will possible help me to fix some hurdes. Thanx for it.
And my GF is way better in sewing, but we work together real good. My mother had learned it but....this genetically skips a generation...
Yepp, looks great, will aks my GF if these plans are easy to make

Mhm, well ther are easy but....in a special way of thinking only japanese dudes can really track back xD But it´s okay, my Kimono is good enough for walking around and play. Maybe i´m the problem here. Oh and, don´t worry, our turkish textile dealer makes extrem good prices and we have 1,5x25meter rolls of simple black and white cotton from Ikea for a small money also....15Euro i think...or something around this
(Memo to myself: Try to gife a fible glass staff a rounding under heat to build a Katana with original form)

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-02-07 13:05:03 +0000 UTC]

Well, if you do some research and can make it yourself, you really save money.

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NikitaTarsov In reply to nishlanin [2016-02-23 21:16:55 +0000 UTC]

Yepp...i really should take more use of it.....maybe that´s the reason i like to talk about it so much.

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-01-10 13:23:49 +0000 UTC]

Don't worry about grammar or length. I'm a native English speaker and I can't write an essay without spellcheck. And about like reading long posts, they are quite often interesting.

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-01-06 12:20:35 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome! I have quite an interest in firearms. Your designs are pretty good!

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NikitaTarsov In reply to nishlanin [2016-01-06 12:51:11 +0000 UTC]

Thanx a lot dude

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nishlanin In reply to NikitaTarsov [2016-01-07 06:12:07 +0000 UTC]

Welcome!

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nishlanin In reply to Tomxx8 [2015-12-30 02:39:54 +0000 UTC]

You are most welcome.

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nishlanin In reply to ODSThero [2015-12-17 06:09:31 +0000 UTC]

You are most welcome. That is a pretty good picture of a combat load. Thanks for posting it in the first place.

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ODSThero In reply to nishlanin [2015-12-17 20:05:58 +0000 UTC]

Your welcome.

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nishlanin In reply to Grafight [2015-05-30 13:30:58 +0000 UTC]

Sorry for not answering immediately. Just wanted to say you're welcome. Those are very good drawing tutorials that are very easy to understand. Thanks for putting them up.

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Grafight In reply to nishlanin [2015-05-30 15:00:45 +0000 UTC]

No problem! Glad they help!

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nishlanin In reply to Yachieku [2015-04-21 13:44:22 +0000 UTC]

You're very welcome! In fact, I want to comment that your picture on 6mm pistol ammo is quite good. Interesting idea, taser rounds!

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Yachieku In reply to nishlanin [2015-04-22 11:52:04 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, I'm glad You like it

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nishlanin In reply to Yachieku [2015-05-30 13:31:46 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome.

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nishlanin In reply to Shimaha [2014-12-02 23:39:44 +0000 UTC]

You're very welcome! I will admit it was your samurai armour that attracted me to your profile. Very good! I'm just starting a do maru haramaki myself. Making it out of pvc buckets. It has been interesting so far. You use sengoku daimyo?

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Shimaha In reply to nishlanin [2014-12-03 18:22:28 +0000 UTC]

Yes, it was my main source, but not the only one by far. I also used "Arms & Armour of the Samurai" By Hopson & Bottomley, "Samurai, an Illustrated History" by Mitsuo Kure and constant contact with actual armours through exhibits and travel. I made contact with people in armour preservation societies in Japan and with the man who holds the largest private collection in Canada.

I'm still looking for a reliable source for the small fittings (kanamono and hasso byo) to make my second set even better.

Best of luck!  

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