marius1985 In reply to RudiRueWarecorgi [2019-10-03 15:37:54 +0000 UTC]

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RudiRueWarecorgi In reply to marius1985 [2019-10-04 01:15:00 +0000 UTC]

I feel sorry for her since she's so miserable but we clearly have nothing to offer her with our conservative happiness and friendship. She has all her drugs and angry women to keep her from killing herself so I guess she'll be fine. It's too bad she falls for the sky is falling argument all liberals sell their sheep. If Brexit goes through: yes, the people will have a little less but they won't have to take in every ignorant, diseased, pregnant migrant by the millions. It seems like a good deal to us but we're not drunk on globalist money.

I was wrong to call her a fascist, I know she does hear both sides of the argument but she'll never listen. Is that really better then being a fascist? I guess not. I just don't see her trying to reach any common ground with anyone else. It's like she believes everything that she was taught in public school. That's a true tragedy.

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marius1985 In reply to KajunFriesArt [2019-04-03 15:10:21 +0000 UTC]

its called personal choices resulting in different outcomes you decietful commie.
on average women are not choosing the same jobs as men in the same numbers or doing the same hours.

you are deliberately ignorant of the difference between equal opportunity and equal outcomes, and you can not have both.
to get equal outcomes, you must force it through, by crushing freedom, and punishing excellence, in order to get that equal outcome. that would be done by employment commissars who would see to it that "any superior soviet citezen could be moulded into whatever role the state demanded of them". you know, gender is a social construct and biological differences dont exist etc etc.

this isnt a debate. you are just wrong.
you are the new version of the 90s fat american tourist shouting angrily about why there isnt an english speaking mcdonnalds drivethrough in every town in east europe.

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KajunFriesArt In reply to marius1985 [2019-04-03 17:01:20 +0000 UTC]

Really? I just explained WHY I hate communism and you call me a commie.
this weakens your point greatly.
and I want sources. SOURCES
also, you say all these things about what I believe when I state they aren’t true. 
Please explain how I’m denying the difference between equal opportunities and equal outcome, even though equal opportunity is freedom of opportunity and excellence.
Go back to the 60s, Marx needs your support, 
and don’t reply, I don’t need any of your unsupported insults in my inbox.

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marius1985 In reply to KajunFriesArt [2019-04-03 17:17:01 +0000 UTC]

saying you hate it, then demanding it, is a display of deceit.
pleading for explanation while demanding i not reply, is literally hypocritical.

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KajunFriesArt In reply to marius1985 [2019-04-03 17:18:45 +0000 UTC]

I never demanded it

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marius1985 In reply to KajunFriesArt [2019-04-03 17:23:54 +0000 UTC]

you demand equality of outcome. that is demanding communism. and the elimination of choice communism brings.
you continue to demand this, while continuing to say you hate it. that is deceitful.

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KajunFriesArt In reply to marius1985 [2019-04-03 20:03:42 +0000 UTC]

THATS YOUR ISSUE!!! You think I’m communist based on ONE section of my thoughts on equality of outcome. I’ve never said my thoughts o equality of outcome based on:
race
gender
socioeconomic status
governmental status
ethnic status.
This proves how blind you are to others, as you judge someone on a single issue and not on the whole. 

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marius1985 In reply to KajunFriesArt [2019-04-03 22:00:35 +0000 UTC]

semantics.

races, genders, etc etc, all result in people making different choices when free to do so. free choice will result if different outcomes. you are a hypocrite, and are being deluded.

you are demanding equality of outcome, something that can not happen unless tyrannically enforced to completely crush equal opportunity, and purge completely any idea of free choice.

that is communism. that evil is the road to hell your deceitful intentions are paving.

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KajunFriesArt In reply to marius1985 [2019-04-03 23:45:03 +0000 UTC]

1. Not the best use of the word semantics. 
2. And I’m allowing free outcomes? How does that making a hypocrite? Because I’m trying to make equality by lowering the possible outcomes? If that’s what you believe, you are being foolish. Instead I’m saying we should equalize outcomes by increasing possibilities and destroying the idea of “the housewife”, empowering all to follow their passion. Not by limiting men’s outcomes, but increasing all outcomes for both sexes so that those are equal. I basically just destroyed your last idea. Free choice is allowed, but is useless if the choices are smaller for one sex. And stop using communism as an example, as you’ve basically turned it into the meaningless insult it was during the Red Scare. Though seeing the way you act about other’s having varying opinions, I would not be surprised to hear you were someone who supported McCarthy

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ArmorFelix2012 In reply to KajunFriesArt [2019-07-03 22:04:05 +0000 UTC]

“the housewife”, empowering all to follow their passion.

You're selling a socially-engineered pipe dream; it's ignoring that freedom can also mean the right to be poor as opposed to being a slave to materialism.

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marius1985 In reply to KajunFriesArt [2019-04-04 05:22:39 +0000 UTC]

the only thing you are destroying is the reputation of your countries education system. and thats impressive at this point in history.

you will not get equal outcomes if you are still allowing equal choices, because biologican differences result in different choices and preferences.
you cant destroy the idea of "the housewife" without employment commissars conscripting people into jobs they dont want to do.

im not using communism as an example. im telling you, communism is exactly the thing you are ignorantly demanding with your demands for equal outcomes

the fact you cant conceive of me not being american, to the point of trying to shoehorn my views into stupid american 'football politics' spectrum, is proving what i said about you being the new version of the 90s loud fat american tourist having a tantrum about lack of mcdonalds.

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KajunFriesArt In reply to marius1985 [2019-04-04 12:17:10 +0000 UTC]

Equal outcomes doesn’t mean everyone is equal. It still has a large sense of freedom. I can see that you’re from a different country, but that you can’t understand that that doesn’t mean the history of others doesn’t matter. That’s basically saying that nobody should care about any event of history if their country wasn’t involved, which is stupid because the effects of whatever historical event can still affect other countries that did not instigate the initial events.

so your saying Biological differences create a difference between sexes in job preferences? And how might that exactly work? I can see you’re from a different country, but please show that your country understands basic biology. It’s less of that more of what’s within that child’s early life that affects their growth. Don’t believe me? For example, my sibling who is now an athlete was extremely energetic at a younger age, and my parents encouraged him to join in clubs and teams at his school for athletic competition.

how many times do I have to say it before it gets inside your small brain? I’m not saying force people into jobs, I’m saying EQUALIZE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH SEXES, AND GIVE THEM THE SAME CHOICE OF RESOURCES DURING A YOUNGER AGE, SO THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO CHOOSE BETWEEN AN EQUAL AMMOUNTS OF FUTURE POSSIBILITIES FOR THEMSELVES! 

and here we go again, saying that equality is communism. Look up the definition, it’s a lot more than that. I’m not advocating for fully public property. I’m not asking for a complete civilian run government, as I’m fine with style we have now, with its balances and checks within. So saying equality = communism isn’t true. Equality can be in a society without it being communistic. In fact, communism in our current day isn’t really equal, with how human greed and hunger for power affect it. So if you don’t mind please stop saying equality is communism, which isn’t very true.

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marius1985 In reply to KajunFriesArt [2019-04-04 14:57:06 +0000 UTC]

"how many times do I have to say it before it gets inside your small brain? I’m not saying force people into jobs, I’m saying EQUALIZE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH SEXES, AND GIVE THEM THE SAME CHOICE OF RESOURCES DURING A YOUNGER AGE, SO THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO CHOOSE BETWEEN AN EQUAL AMMOUNTS OF FUTURE POSSIBILITIES FOR THEMSELVES! "
THAT WILL GIVE MASSIVE DISPARITY IN OUTCOMES.

im not saying equality is comunism. im saying that your demands for equal outcomes are communism. as thay demand a communist state to implement them.
in a fully liberalised state, where individualism was maximised and that tokenist identity politics you americans have spread about diversity quotas and group identity over individual identity, men would earn much more than women, as AVERAGE men are much more interested in science, medicine and technology jobs that pay substantially more, where AVERAGE women only want the money of those jobs while being teachers, carers and other lower skill social jobs.

everything you are saying is a contradiction. are you still in collage or something? because you are very naive.

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KajunFriesArt In reply to marius1985 [2019-04-04 16:07:53 +0000 UTC]

Oh, so now we’re using Social steryoptypes and the assumption that different sexes “have different jobs suited for them?” This isn’t the 1920s. And how would it cause disparity? Because apparently “average men like certain things, and average women like others”. That simply is false, created by sex stereotypes created at least a century ago. And if you read the definition of communism, equality for jobs is only a section. And it doesn’t require a communist state, since it’s happening here in our democratic republic. Yeah, I don’t want you pushing the idea of average, as average is just simply a myth. So please, stop sending these, as it wastes my time. Go talk about how “women should be doing certain things” with others who actually believe this load of crap.

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