jakepog In reply to Aranglinn [2009-09-12 05:20:58 +0000 UTC]

Thanks,man,kind of you to say that.The best of luck with everything,Jake.

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jakepog In reply to RedShift-4mg [2008-02-29 18:00:13 +0000 UTC]

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RedShift-4mg In reply to jakepog [2008-02-29 20:31:43 +0000 UTC]

lol... that's ok... the ghetto must make due until I'm a big, famous artist who can afford things such as proper equipment and... er... lightbulbs.....

wow... now that's a sad statement..... DX

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jakepog In reply to RedShift-4mg [2008-02-29 21:56:12 +0000 UTC]

Look,forgive the unsolisited advice-but the ghetto needs a forge,simple as that.Many think that it takes costly rigging and tons of skill-bullshit,pure and simple.No skill is best practiced on the level of abortionism(Alaskan equivalent for ghetto) than iron forging,trust me.Respectfully,Jake.

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RedShift-4mg In reply to jakepog [2008-02-29 22:26:02 +0000 UTC]

hurray ingenuity!

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jakepog In reply to RedShift-4mg [2008-02-29 23:36:33 +0000 UTC]

You bet,the only way there is.

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jakepog In reply to egotyk [2008-02-15 05:53:03 +0000 UTC]

Sorry,man-pizdetz means "really way cool"in russian,though it's not a polite way to express it.I do like your pictures a lot-haven't seen many better.Respect,Jake.

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jakepog In reply to Bloody-Tougue [2008-02-01 19:08:24 +0000 UTC]

Listen,likewise-thanks a lot.Virginia is outrageously beautiful,the hardwoods-god amighty...Me and a buddy working on a steam-boat project,casting looms very large-would absolutely love to learn anything about it.I'm as non-ferrous ignorant as they come-is 10-12% Zn in yor stuff common?But travelling's not in the cards-the one resourse that doesn't occur here naturally is the goddamn cash,plus the spring's coming,the hybernation is almost over...Check out my bud Phil's site-galenavillageblacksmith.com,you can always track me down through it.

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Bloody-Tougue In reply to jakepog [2008-02-01 19:31:41 +0000 UTC]

Steam boat? Your going to want nautical brass, which is 40% zinc, 1% tin, and the rest copper.

10% to 12% is the most common composition, give or take 1% or 2% lead and arsinic for Indo-European bronze weapons. They were primitive, but they had time to figure out what works and what dosn't

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jakepog In reply to Bloody-Tougue [2008-02-01 19:39:29 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.The machinig part of the deal being even more uncertain than casting,we've a long row to hoe.If it comes to pouring our own castings,will attempt to keep it to least critical,as we probably will have little control over the composition of the material,likely melting down some giant valves the airforce abandoned here.

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Bloody-Tougue In reply to jakepog [2008-02-01 19:52:05 +0000 UTC]

DON'T MELT ANYTHING IF YOU DON'T KNOW ITS COMPOSITION!!!! Two words: Arsenic fumes. try as hard as you can to find someone to tell you what it is made of. If you can, wear full face respirators and do it outside, in an unpopulated area.

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jakepog In reply to Bloody-Tougue [2008-02-01 20:01:04 +0000 UTC]

Thank you,it's good to know.I take it that non-ferrous casting is not the healthiest deal to begin with...We'll try very hard to swing buying a set of malleable iron castings,as half-ass as it may be,and as much as i always wanted to get into casting.But this project is essencial to our survival here(freighting from the road-head),and we'll shoot for the most expeditious method,even if the most nutless!

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jakepog In reply to MADdwarfWorkshop [2008-01-29 23:26:24 +0000 UTC]

Thanks,guys,but you embarass me with such praise-true,it's been a few years at the forge(though i'll always feel like a rank amature..),but in your department,grinding and polishing(and any other finish),why,i still don't know what's under all that oxide!

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jakepog In reply to Caged2007 [2008-01-28 19:32:17 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for pointing out Stephen's work to me.As diametrically opposed as our approaches to the dark lump are,i must say that i have tremendous respect for both his work and for the man behind it.Myriad,indeed,are the ways in which the lump manifests itself through us!

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Caged2007 In reply to jakepog [2008-01-28 19:53:18 +0000 UTC]

i am abit of a n00b when it comes to forging iron,,the only things i learn to forge is oil hardened steel rods to shape em to my spinning tools..that the extend of my knoweledge on the matter,,,,i know silver, copper and brass

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jakepog In reply to Caged2007 [2008-01-28 20:33:16 +0000 UTC]

*plastic deformation of iron and steel is a function subject to the forces of their molecular bonds.An example:an iron rod forged to a mathematically perfect(mp)taper,heated to a mp temp,and smacked on the end in a mp direction,WILL form a mp logarithmic spiral.As academic as it sounds,it actually works quite well(o course,minus the mp factor),producing a very pleasing shape found in nature commonly-nautilus shell,swirling water,and quite difficult to achieve by any other means.And that's my great love-the Zen parameters of these forces,and learning from them...

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jakepog In reply to Caged2007 [2008-01-28 20:18:48 +0000 UTC]

That's a great deal-forging and heat treating steel.Within that,the transformation that takes place involves (almost)complete decalecence/coalecence of the molecular AND cristalline structure of the given piece(process unique to iron,among ALL the materials worked by man).These changes + the plastic deformation* serve me as the only guide in the aesthetics dept.,wether someone like Stephen,employing the tools of fabrication,has the capacity(and the talent)to impose a much broader range of form upon the old lump,a universe that intimidates me by it's vastness,it's lack of limiting factors.

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jakepog In reply to Steelspike [2007-12-20 12:35:34 +0000 UTC]

Thanks,man-decent of you,and no worries about the trip hammer-it's a frozen sculpture this time of year,and the original inserts(wide fuller top over a large flat-to draw-out the plowshares)are pretty useless for anything other than the stock sizing/prep work of the crudest kind.Looking at your neat work makes me think that you've had some traning in traditional joinery.I'm a self-taught abortionist,and many a technique is a deep mystery for me-did you jump-weld the caps on?Thanks again,Jake.

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Steelspike In reply to jakepog [2007-12-21 14:27:24 +0000 UTC]

Smithing uses traditional woodworking joints a lot; probably due to the similarity of wrought iron to wood with it's fibrous structure. Yes, the caps were fire welded on, as were the branches. If you look closely you can trace the frame from the mushroom cap right round to the tendril that wraps around it, it is actually 4 pieces fire welded end to end to a length of around 10 feet. The shroom stems and grass blades are fire welded together then formed into a square tenon that slots through the frame and peined over to hold them securely. There are also a few blind rivets securing at cross over points. I will leave you to try a few shroom heads on your own, if you have problems I will take you through the process at some time. Good luck

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jakepog In reply to taika-kim [2007-11-16 16:12:36 +0000 UTC]

I'm so computer-retarded that can't figure out how to send a message to someone.Is this a proper place to reply,at some lengh?

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taika-kim In reply to jakepog [2007-11-18 10:26:28 +0000 UTC]

mm well i think it's better to send a private message... you can do it from messages -> notes, and there is a send message window. i think.

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jakepog In reply to taika-kim [2007-11-18 15:01:01 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for this info,have only been using the computer two months or so.I've lived here almost 14 years,and often had to find workable birch for projects-very difficult.Traditionally,everything here was made of birch-dogsleds,snowshoes,bows and spears,ax handles,and,like everywhere in the North,bark canoes and baskets.Nothing works as well as a birch sled,mortised and lashed with twine,it's common to see one hooked up to a $7000 snowmashine.Birch snowshoes that indians make here are amazing-very strong and super light,especially when built for racing.I could take some pictures,but don't know where to post them.Jake.

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taika-kim In reply to jakepog [2007-11-19 15:21:08 +0000 UTC]

here, we have birch everywhere... it's just sad that there's less than 5% old forests (120+ years or so) in the whole country left, the forest industry has pretty much destroyed everything, and the wood tends to be low quality... Grown too fast, and huge planks are difficult to find if you need some.

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jakepog In reply to taika-kim [2007-11-19 17:14:50 +0000 UTC]

That's the story all over the world,and the sad part is not that it was used,but that it was used incorrectly.It's tragic to make plywood or toilet paper out of a tree that was good for a musical instrument,or boat lumber.Even economically it makes no sense.We are too far north here,but because of that trees grow slowly,and not too big.One time,building a log cabin,i used a white spruce log that had 80+ annular rings per inch(airplane building grade starts at 32 per inch).I don't know very much about it,but seems like many guitars and violins are made of wood much less dense.

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