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# Statistics
Favourites: 11; Deviations: 5; Watchers: 3
Watching: 3; Pageviews: 3303; Comments Made: 89; Friends: 3
# Interests
Favorite visual artist: Too many to count...Favorite movies: Lord of the Rings
Favorite bands / musical artists: Green Day, Reel Big Fish, Breaking Benjamin, Gorillaz
Favorite writers: Orson Scott Card
Favorite games: Zelda series
Favorite gaming platform: None. Have them all.
Tools of the Trade: Flash, pencils, a ruler, and a white eraser
Other Interests: Drawing, reading, playing guitar, writing, having fun with friends
# About me
Current Residence: VirginiaFavourite genre of music: Rock music of many different kinds.
Favourite style of art: Anime
Operating System: Windows XP
MP3 player of choice: iPod
Favourite cartoon character: I really don't care
Personal Quote: Try not to become a man of success, but a man of value.
# Comments
Comments: 60
SalfordStar [2005-10-25 20:55:16 +0000 UTC]
Well done, you managed to get someone banned for doing exactly the same thing as you did to jerry jackson. I'm not going to lie and say i have better things to be doing with my time than sending you this post, but the fact is, i've got a hell of a lot of time on my hands.
It seems to me like you just want a bit of attention, anything to cause a stir to get more people looking at your work - which to be fair, does say a lot about your talent - you're very good at drawing and i like your picture.
Fact of the matter is, David Firth is all but a celebrity in the north of England and he has an extremely loyal and devoted following, and if you rile them, they're not going to be too pleased and they'll try to impose their ideologies on you just as you did them.
To be fair, a 15 year old boy from Virginia and a bunch of 20-somethings from Yorkshire are never going to see eye to eye on anything, not least humour - you say burnt face man is crap execution, i say it's masterful - i have never seen a better flash animator than him and if you would be good enough to show me some, then i'd be glad of it.
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WCEagle In reply to SalfordStar [2005-11-12 15:50:56 +0000 UTC]
Let me be honest, ok? First off, i wasn't looking for attention. I have a right to post an opinion. Maybe i was a little too rough, but not everyone thinks the same way. Please understand that.
Two, there are better animators. Would you like to see some?
Three, please look outside of opinions. The fact is most people on NG have practically no common sense. Yes, there are times I find his jokes humorous, but i have seen better and i'd love to show you some other people's works who surpass David Firth.
I really don't use this account anymore and i just logged in out of curiosity and i found this. I hope to have a script and 2 pieces of animation done before the year is over, but they will not be on this account.
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WCEagle In reply to SalfordStar [2005-11-12 15:49:29 +0000 UTC]
Let me be honest, ok? First off, i wasn't looking for attention. I have a right to post an opinion. Maybe i was a little too rough, but not everyone thinks the same way.
Two, there are better animators. Would you like to see some?
Three, please look outside of opinions. The fact is most people on NG have practically no common sense. Yes, there are times I find his jokes humorous, but i have seen better and i'd love to show you some other people's works who surpass David Firth.
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SalfordStar In reply to WCEagle [2005-11-13 11:44:36 +0000 UTC]
Ok i would like to see better animators, but i wont cast my opinion on them because if i don't like them, you'll think i'm saying it on principle.
You tell me to look outside of opinions, whatever that's supposed to mean, when all i was attacking was the barrage of self-riteous criticism you subjected Jerry Jackson to.
I'm also not in any position to cast my eye over the mannerisms of the animators on NewGrounds as i have yet to meet one.
I DO however see what you're getting at, that you started off trying to validate your opinion to people who wouldn't listen to it, and the fact these people probably fail to take criticism constructively anyway is indicative of how low deviantart is now, in my eyes it's mostly just a site where started-up morons speak highly of someone's work so they can jerk off when they get a "thank you".
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WCEagle In reply to SalfordStar [2005-11-13 23:12:41 +0000 UTC]
I was a little harsh, yes, but i think people should broaden their horizons and see the other side of the story and better animators. Just go on Newgrounds and look up these names and titles:
Captain Capitalism
Dan Paladin
Granfaloon
Adam Phillips
James Farr
Super Flash Bros.
Andrew Dickman
I could show u a few more if you wish. Just type their names in a search bar. You'll be amazed.
Trust me. Look on the message boards on NG and you'll see so much pointless bashing and flaming, with NO legitimite reasons behind it.
Yes, so many people fail to take criticism constructively it's almost sad, but mocking someone who drawing a certain style or because he likes something the other guy hates...is almost unforgiveable. I stated reasons why i didnt like and i was only trying to point out how david firth stacks up to other animators. I'm not an animator myself since i have yet to complete a flash movie but hopefully a PDA for my birthday will help me organize my schedule...
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WCEagle In reply to SalfordStar [2005-11-12 15:49:13 +0000 UTC]
Let me be honest, ok? First off, i wasn't looking for attention. I have a right to post an opinion. Maybe i was a little too rough, but not everyone thinks the same way.
Two, there are better animators. Would you like to see some?
Three, please look outside of opinions. The fact is most people on NG have practically no common sense. Yes, there are times I find his jokes humorous, but i have seen better and i'd love to show you some other people's works who surpass David Firth.
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WCEagle In reply to SalfordStar [2005-11-12 15:49:09 +0000 UTC]
Let me be honest, ok? First off, i wasn't looking for attention. I have a right to post an opinion. Maybe i was a little too rough, but not everyone thinks the same way.
Two, there are better animators. Would you like to see some?
Three, please look outside of opinions. The fact is most people on NG have practically no common sense. Yes, there are times I find his jokes humorous, but i have seen better and i'd love to show you some other people's works who surpass David Firth.
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WCEagle In reply to SalfordStar [2005-11-12 15:49:01 +0000 UTC]
Let me be honest, ok? First off, i wasn't looking for attention. I have a right to post an opinion. Maybe i was a little too rough, but not everyone thinks the same way.
Two, there are better animators. Would you like to see some?
Three, please look outside of opinions. The fact is most people on NG have practically no common sense. Yes, there are times I find his jokes humorous, but i have seen better and i'd love to show you some other people's works who surpass David Firth.
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WCEagle In reply to UndeadWolf [2005-10-16 00:24:53 +0000 UTC]
You are right in a sense, but it's frustrating to see people acting like they know everything. I need to relax, yes. kind of stressed out.
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notgaynotgaynotgay [2005-10-15 23:01:04 +0000 UTC]
im just here making arguments based on fact and not culture
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notgaynotgaynotgay [2005-10-15 23:00:35 +0000 UTC]
im just here making arguments based on fact and not culture
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WCEagle In reply to notgaynotgaynotgay [2005-10-15 23:10:45 +0000 UTC]
you've done neither. people who talk about philosophy are ignorant pricks who think they're better than others. they act all intellegent, but they really don't know shit about life. Like THAC, you are not qualified to talk about gay ass philosophy. you accuse me of being gay? judging by your name and attitude, its a proven fact that you are the one who is acting gay.
You have not proven anything. You just came here raving like some retard. Arguments based on facts? more like assumptions you make up in that feeble mind of yours.
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notgaynotgaynotgay In reply to WCEagle [2005-10-16 23:56:04 +0000 UTC]
its funny because i wouldnt expect someone like you to understand a simple concept. philosophy is based on the fact that the world was created with unchanging laws, unlike human emotions which are constantly changing. ive thoroughly contradicted you NOTHING but fact, if you would take the time to read my posts instead of coming off of it like a fool then you would silently agree.
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WCEagle In reply to notgaynotgaynotgay [2005-10-17 00:23:40 +0000 UTC]
dont teach me about philosophy dude. I read the posts and I've concluded that your just some guy who thinks he knows everything.
Like all philosophers. Look at the fact that David Firth is highly overrated. His concepts are great, but how he carries them out is a different story. You act like you understand the human nature, but in fact your just some short tempered ass who got all worked up over a critique. Quit posting here, your only making yourself look like an ass.
"hell maybe i'll teach you about philosophy, like socrates taught plato, and like plato taught aristotle and so on and so on and so on and so on for years until philosophical thinking was burned into the human thought process, albeit some people much more than others"
This clearly shows that you think you know everything, acting like a teacher of philosophy. I learn on my own and by my own mistakes and I dont need some dick posting here acting like he knows everything. Don't give me that "and i have not ONCE implied that i know everything" crap.
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notgaynotgaynotgay In reply to WCEagle [2005-10-17 00:45:11 +0000 UTC]
it doesn't show i think i know everything, it just shows i know about philosophy. jesus christ youre stupid.
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WCEagle In reply to notgaynotgaynotgay [2005-11-17 01:08:35 +0000 UTC]
Last word: Learn to think. Philosophies and emotions always change and facts are the only things you can cling to. Philosohpers belive that they are omniscent yet anyone with common sense will realize that these educated thinkers have the same things in mind of what these dicks preach. Theres more than one philosophy, yet you fail to realize it.
Second, i find it hypocritical of you saying anything drawn on paper is art yet you mock the people who draw anime. Ever heard of look on the bright side of things?
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WCEagle In reply to notgaynotgaynotgay [2005-10-17 00:50:47 +0000 UTC]
look whos talking. Philosophers make up nonsense then write it in a convincing manner. The fact that you claimed you know about philosophy means you believe you think you know everything about the human nature and life itself. Theres more than one philosophy and I have my own. Quit posting here for christs sake. I encourage younger artists, yet I am harsher to people who I know can do better. You fail to understand that. And you say I'm stupid? Face it, everyone has their own agendas, beliefs, and philosophies. Don't preach crap here. You're only making yourself look like a pretentious dick. if your gonna complain, keep it at JJ's page. I'm sick of dealing with your shit.
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notgaynotgaynotgay In reply to notgaynotgaynotgay [2005-10-16 23:58:26 +0000 UTC]
and i have not ONCE implied that i know everything. that's your assumption, just as mine was that you were gay.
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WCEagle In reply to WCEagle [2005-10-15 23:14:49 +0000 UTC]
Revising that:
than others. they act all intellegent, but they really don't know shit about life. Like THAC said, you are not qualified to talk about gay ass philosophy. you accuse me of being gay?
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THAC [2005-10-15 22:50:59 +0000 UTC]
Hey Mr. "Notgay", What the hell is your malfunction? You come in here ranting and raving like a retard, without bothering to have a valid point to back in the first place. What do you expect to be some kind of hero or something? Then you go around talking about 'teaching' W.C. about philosophy. Let me ask you this: What the hell qualifies you to do so? You sound like a idiot to me, and as far as i know, no idiot has ever become a great philosopher. And I assume YOU are gay, thanks to your idiotic name. So, consider yourself: retarded.
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WCEagle In reply to THAC [2005-10-15 22:52:29 +0000 UTC]
couldnt have said it better myself...
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notgaynotgaynotgay In reply to THAC [2005-10-15 22:52:25 +0000 UTC]
I'd have you consider yourself simple minded. Enough said.
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notgaynotgaynotgay [2005-10-15 21:25:34 +0000 UTC]
and yes, i have nothing better to do than this today. doesn't make me a loser, and it doesn't mean i spend too much time on the internet (as you have probably assumed), i just happened to run into you and you are the person that has pissed me off most today. congrats maybe i'll reply again in 5 minutes with a long sentiment about something. hell maybe i'll teach you about philosophy, like socrates taught plato, and like plato taught aristotle and so on and so on and so on and so on for years until philosophical thinking was burned into the human thought process, albeit some people much more than others
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notgaynotgaynotgay In reply to notgaynotgaynotgay [2005-10-15 21:51:38 +0000 UTC]
And another thing, I fucking hate critics.
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WCEagle In reply to notgaynotgaynotgay [2005-10-15 21:43:00 +0000 UTC]
its amazing you think you know everything. Depending on the age and real talent of the person are the factors that judge how harsh my critiques are. He should be able to do better, yet after seeing whats on his JJ account on NG and DA and what he has on NG as David Firth, he is able to do better, yet he is lazy and i've shown his movies (BFM, Salad Fingers, JJ cartoons) and they all tell me they suck. He has the ability, yet not the maturity.
It's amazing you get worked up about a critique...pathetic...
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ShimaAndTempis [2005-10-08 22:38:25 +0000 UTC]
Holy crap. >,< Really, really nice gallery you've got here! One of your deviations was on the "Recent" portion of the front page, so I stopped by. Really great stuff!!
-SAT
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WCEagle In reply to ShimaAndTempis [2005-10-11 02:03:34 +0000 UTC]
Uh, i'm really not all that great...
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McGillicuddy-Serious In reply to WCEagle [2005-10-13 11:04:04 +0000 UTC]
Congradulations, Napolean Dynamite. You seem to have mastered the bland homogenised style of the many bad cartoons that grace the 3:00-4:30 slot on childrens tv. I'm guessing you are the type of guy that rushes home to watch Digimon. You, are an American, live in a country rich with many cartoonists with many masterful and diverse styles. I find it hilarious that you have put so much time and effort into manga, an inferior syle created by SOMEONE ELSE in Japan(of all places). And you say Jerry Jackson needs to work on his drawing skills.
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notgaynotgaynotgay In reply to McGillicuddy-Serious [2005-10-15 21:01:32 +0000 UTC]
i agree that anime sucks but you have to remember that just because a person created something doesnt mean it can't be recreated by someone else.
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McGillicuddy-Serious In reply to notgaynotgaynotgay [2005-10-17 06:58:59 +0000 UTC]
I would agree to the extent that I believe other peoples ideas can be incorporated into your own work, but I don't think that someone can be a serious artist and not have his/her own original style. Anime has been regurgitated so often it is ridiculous. I just thought WC Eagle is a wanker who sports some of the faggiest cartoons I have ever seen, so he needed a good poke in the ribs, especially when he critises something because he fails to understand it.
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WCEagle In reply to McGillicuddy-Serious [2005-10-18 03:21:25 +0000 UTC]
I've warned you. I've sent a report for harrassment to the admins. If you think anime is ridiculous, i find it ridiculous you claim im a lousy artist just because i like drawing anime for fun. i criticized David Firth because he tries to hard to stand out:
Salad Fingers: A weird cartoon with good concepts, but overall its poor and overrated.
Burnt Face Man: good concepts, crappy excecution
JJ cartoons: do i have to say it?
deal with criticism. You're the one being a fag claiming i'm a shitty artist when u have no art for yourself. I laugh at both you and Mr. Notgay's lack of insight and common sense.
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WCEagle In reply to WCEagle [2005-10-18 03:23:26 +0000 UTC]
David Firth: ridiculously overrated animator and artist. I hate a right to criticize and if you dont like it, deal with it and complain yo ur buddy Mr. Notgay.
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WCEagle In reply to McGillicuddy-Serious [2005-10-13 18:58:47 +0000 UTC]
And you are so much better...i just do it for fun. Maybe when you actually get some art on your page, then we shall talk. I personally hate Digimon and the only three shows I watch come on during adult Swim. Apparently, you claim you're better than me when you have absolutely no art on your page. If i have to show off what I can do with various styles, fine. I like drawing anime because it is fun and I can combine it with other styles to create unique ones. James Farr admits anime has influenced his animations. I draw other styles when I am hired, but i draw my own for myself. And i find it hilarious that you cant even draw or animate and you claim I need to work on my drawing skills. Pathetic....
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notgaynotgaynotgay In reply to WCEagle [2005-10-15 21:16:28 +0000 UTC]
you're just another pretentious dick who thinks he knows what art is. art is not a medium that can be used to judge people by (as you have so made clear that you think it is) art is a form of self expression that can come in ANY form. i can punch you in the face and it would be art, because i'm expressing myself. your gay drawings are art because they express you and from what i can tell you're probably gay. a line is art. two notes played by a man with a clicky pen is art. if you need more examples then i'd not suggest you kill yourself, just cut yourself off from all human interaction regarding anything having to do with creativity, art, and think long and hard about everything you've ever criticized someone for. i have, and look at me now. am i a pretentious dick? no. can i see beauty in all things? no, but that doesn't give me a right to tell other people that they don't. god i'm just so tired of people like you. it takes you so much to see the truth and when you finally find it you will feel like you've been living life as a vegetable.
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WCEagle In reply to notgaynotgaynotgay [2005-10-15 21:32:51 +0000 UTC]
This is based on the assumption of you talking to me:
I am not judging people based on their art, but to see someone with absolutely no talent go around saying he's the best animator on the planet and having to deal with god damn fanboys is enough to grate on ones nerves. Let me be blunt: You accuse me being gay just because I gave a little criticism? It's funny that you're making such a big deal out of it. I agree art comes in many different forms, but to see some guy who pretends to act like a preadolesent kid trying to mock stereotypes yet comes up with the dumbest ways to do it is not art. David Firth is 22, yet he is able to do better than this. If a child does a drawing, i encourage him or her thats its a great job, but to a 22 yr old its much different.
When you know that person can do better, then you must be much tougher with critiques. It's you who fails to understand that. And thanks for the mindlessly angry rant: really needed a laugh. You're just like the last guy who created an account just to say "I suck". I laugh at your lack of common sense.
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notgaynotgaynotgay In reply to WCEagle [2005-10-15 21:48:19 +0000 UTC]
"You accuse me being gay just because I gave a little criticism?" No, I ASSUME you're gay.
"I am not judging people based on their art" Perhaps you remember what you said only two days ago, "Apparently, you claim you're better than me when you have absolutely no art on your page" Nice one Einstein.
"David Firth is 22, yet he is able to do better than this. If a child does a drawing, i encourage him or her thats its a great job, but to a 22 yr old its much different." Perhaps you haven't seen the art of Andy Warhol, Syd Barrett (the founder of Pink Floyd, mind you) or even Picasso. You said it yourself, art comes in many forms, so what should make you the one to try and push someone else to their limits?
"When you know that person can do better, then you must be much tougher with critiques. It's you who fails to understand that." Maybe it's you who still fails to understand that you're not David Firth. He's the only one that can decide if his art is done to the best of his abilities. You think you can get what you want from him? I suggest you find a way to become him I suppose.
"I laugh at your lack of common sense." I laugh at your lack of insight.
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WCEagle In reply to notgaynotgaynotgay [2005-10-15 22:02:32 +0000 UTC]
"And another thing, I fucking hate critics."
thats your problem, not mine. deal with it. Art does come in many forms, but David Firth relies on poorly done tweens for animation, tries to make it as weird as possible to stand out, and all the jokes bite. As for lack of insight, i'm usually a generous person, but to see an overrated artist who puts no effort into his work is more than enough to grate on ones nerves.
Quit replying here. You're just making yourself look like an ass. Many people claim they have original styles just to tell themselves they lack talent. I have no desire to deal with your stupidity then you think i'm stupid, then its a never ending cycle. Quit replying here and i'll quit commenting on the "famous" JJ. You have truly shown a lack of common sense and short tempered behavior by making a large deal out of critique.
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notgaynotgaynotgay In reply to WCEagle [2005-10-15 22:03:54 +0000 UTC]
I don't care as much about my ego as you probably do.
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WCEagle In reply to notgaynotgaynotgay [2005-10-15 22:11:39 +0000 UTC]
I don't have an ego. I've seen more talented people get less page views than some crappy animator...sickening....
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themozack In reply to McGillicuddy-Serious [2005-10-13 12:30:12 +0000 UTC]
Oh c'mon, that not nice at all. Even when he stated opinions about JJ, that's not a good reason to bash another art style.
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Zito-is-Neato [2005-09-15 15:35:30 +0000 UTC]
Hey man this is Ouhmagod01 whos gonna voice in your flash. Just commin by to give ya a howdy. And a watch your stuff is awesome!
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WCEagle In reply to Zito-is-Neato [2005-09-28 13:34:19 +0000 UTC]
Same with your rants! The rapper one and the Sex in games one were gold!
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BlackmarketKraig In reply to WCEagle [2005-09-28 19:32:19 +0000 UTC]
Sorry the link didn't work properly. Try [link]
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WCEagle In reply to BlackmarketKraig [2005-09-29 00:01:32 +0000 UTC]
yeah. piracy is something i could never bring myself to do. its a tool to use if you enjoy your hobby. i mean if u build model airplanes, u have to buy the glue, paint, and stuff like that. Photoshop is a handy tool and makes sense to at least purchase a student version.
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WCEagle In reply to geistseig [2005-10-11 21:12:37 +0000 UTC]
hey...you an NG member? nice gallery btw
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