TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2017-09-11 15:13:24 +0000 UTC]

That was so sweet of you, Deery. DeviantART has been blocked in my country for so long I actually forgot to visit at all. And suddenly, it looks like it's been unblocked, which is so typical. :/ But I'm not complaining! It's nice to see you again.

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2017-09-12 12:11:18 +0000 UTC]

DeviantART got blocked in your country? Whoa. I wonder why they did that. Politics are strange. But it's real nice to see you again too! I'm simply glad dA got unblocked for you. ;w;

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2017-09-16 09:46:14 +0000 UTC]

Dah, they're ridiculous, they probably did it because this site seems to be turning into a much more sexualised place (there are a lot of risque photographs of women on the Daily Deviations page on most days, I've found). It may take some getting back into the groove, but I'm so glad it's unblocked. I've been drawing quite a bit lately and it's nice to have the land of reference poses unlocked again.

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2017-09-17 11:27:33 +0000 UTC]

Ah, yes, the risque artwork has been here since time immemorial tbh. Sexualisation is common on all social media platforms, I've just learned to accept it. But that's exactly what the filters here on dA are for, for people who can't stand/don't want to see "nsfw" stuff. But all that sensitive stuff aside, dA is still currently the leading art community out there.

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2017-09-20 14:51:27 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I have no doubt it is, but some people (and powerful people at that) are allowed to decide just how important art is. Unfortunately.

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2017-09-20 14:57:29 +0000 UTC]

There is a difference between art and "art", however. Some artists have resorted to making risque art just for the monies. Which is actually pretty sad, especially if they have potential to draw something more meaningful. To be honest, I call that kind of "art" fan-service. And "art" purely made for fan-service is handicrafting, not true art. As for the powerful people in dA? Yeah, they're the reason dA has gone downhill with its strange updates and every kind of art that hits the front pages. There has been drama over that numerous times... a lot of the staff got fired at some point...

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2017-09-27 08:58:08 +0000 UTC]

Gosh, you seem pretty linked in with community affairs! Most of what happens behind the scenes on this site just totally passes over my head. I agree that art for money and catering to an audience is not the same as art for self-expression, idealism or inspiration. But I still think it has its place, and that place has been carved not only by the people who make it, but by the millions who appreciate it. I hate sexuality in art, for example, but people can't get enough of that shit. Sometimes it's not about how something is supposed to be, it's about what people have made it. And people have put garbage on a pedestal - that's just how the world is at times.

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2017-09-27 14:42:19 +0000 UTC]

Considering that I've been visiting dA daily for a couple of years now, and that I've always kept up with the latest news within the community... I am linked in with dA's affairs, yes.
I do agree that a lot of art made for commercial purposes also has the artist's soul and ideas woven into it. And art made for commercial purposes is very aesthetic, which is always good. But unfortunately, commercial art tends to get lost in time... but I know that everlasting fame is not what every artist seeks at all... even for those who don't always make art for money. And it is often true that there are artists who make art for both self-expression and commerce... not necessarily simultaneously.
As for our society... it is still flawed. And since sexuality was a taboo topic for many centuries, the hype is hard to calm down now. However, I wouldn't say all sexual art is bad. Don't get me wrong, I also hate all the art made with impossible beauty standards and only for drooling horny people, but there are rare gems in the middle of all this garbage. Those kinds of gems never make it to the dA front page though. The explicit art on the front page is usually just for attention... which is utterly pathetic.

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2016-10-19 10:08:37 +0000 UTC]

This is later than late should ever be, but thank you so much! I've been HORRENDOUSLY swamped by school these days (I am now no longer homeschooled and go to school for A-Levels) and I actually completely forgot about the existence of deviantART for quite a while.

How have you been?? It's been far too long!

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2016-10-19 21:57:38 +0000 UTC]

Hehe, you're most welcome! And I can certainly understand where you're coming from, if you are no longer homeschooled... it does quite a lot of dedication to go for the best grades at school, and I certainly know the feeling myself.

In the meantime... well, in the summer, I was relaxed and chill, like I normally am. But when the first school period kicked in, I've been pretty exhausted and grumpy... the timetable of the second school period looks a lot better though, so I hope to straighten up my sleeping schedule soon somehow. How about you? I realise school has probably treated you cruelly as well, but aside from that? ;w;

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2016-10-22 13:15:10 +0000 UTC]

Yeah absolutely; I've been terribly stressed about tests and grades and all that. I'm enjoying my subjects, though. Well, I guess that's why I'm so afraid to fail. There's nothing worse than doing badly in an area that you like.

My sleeping schedule has gone to the dogs, though. I know six hours of sleep isn't all that bad, but it's still not ideal. You probably get even less. Sometimes I have to stay up awfully late to get homework done, and I spend the entirety of the day with a raging headache as a result. Oh well, I mean, it could be worse.

Other than school, how have you been doing? I see you've been doing lots of drawing! Your art has improved by an order of magnitude since I last saw it. Is it keeping you together, or does it stress you out as much as school? I find that my hobbies don't make me feel any better when I'm so overwhelmed.

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2016-10-22 20:02:17 +0000 UTC]

I certainly feel you there... and I'm glad you're actually enjoying most of your subjects! I mostly enjoy only the special courses I picked at my high school... most of the mandatory courses aren't that interesting to me at all. However, funnily enough, whenever a person really enjoys a subject at school, they normally don't fail it either. So I have a hunch you're doing well in the subjects you really like!

As for sleep schedules... well, my sleep schedule has been a lost cause since 7th grade, which is pretty much five years by now. I mean, it would be fine if school started later, but it doesn't... so I stay up too late and end up getting 2-4 hours before school at best, during the harder school periods. I am most alert at night and since school, then zoology and folk dance classes after school take too much of my daytime, so I normally study at night as well and take naps in the evenings, normally before studying. I know it's a deadly circle, but it's the only way I can keep up best performance at school. On the easier school periods, I get around 3-6 hours of sleep, but it's still not good enough. By now, I am pretty certain that I have delayed sleep phase disorder. I read about it and the traits of this disorder and too much of it match my situation. It hasn't been diagnosed, but my biological clock really is shifted to later hours than most people. I always seem to delay until 2 or 3 AM even if there isn't that much to study for the next day... also, I normally don't get headaches from sleep deprivation... the things I get are dulling of senses and a constant sensation of exhaustion. It's hard to keep my eyes open sometimes. I should really fight my biological clock to make sure anything worse won't happen... school and I just don't seem to mix...

Aside from school, I've been listening to plenty of music and have found so many new gems for my playlist. And like you said, I've been drawing quite a lot, as well! I'm really glad to hear that my art as improved in your eyes! It always makes me happy whenever someone lets me know that I've improved since last time. I suspect this is, in big part, thanks to Inktober, too! I've been faithfully uploading Inktober drawings "daily" (even though they are normally uploaded to dA after midnight, but I'm pretty sure you know why). I've tried to improve on a number of things through Inktober, and by your feedback, I think I quite succeeded!

But you also asked if drawing stresses or relaxes me... honestly, I can't quite tell. It's almost neither, but at the same time, it's both. Deadlines sure put a lot of pressure on creative activity, but I often find drawing a lot less stressful than school work. School stuff usually involves doing stuff in fields you aren't always sure about and good at... but with drawing, I always know what I'm doing. It also allows me to express, breathe a little colour and fantasy into my life every now and then. Detailed drawings for Inktober, for instance, really have stressed me out quite a lot, when I've had to take hours from my sleeping time again... but since those drawings are something I purely made from my heart, looking back at those drawings feels much more rewarding than doing homework. I certainly don't look back to homework, nor do I care much about what I learned (if it's not particularly interesting to me) after I get my mark. But the less detailed drawings for Inktober, even under all this pressure, have actually helped me unwind. I also draw at school quite often to cope with the uncomfortable atmosphere there for me. The teachers even allow me to draw during lessons, because they know I'm paying attention. And truth be told, drawing helps me concentrate as well. This kind of creative outlet is keeping me together, even if it does stress me from time to time. But chance has it that I don't function well without some tension in my life... I tend to get lazy without tension. Call me a masochist, but these detailed drawings have helped me grow a lot... and the rate with which I do my homework has allowed me to get better grades, as well. Even if I have stolen from my precious sleep hours, I've gained something satisfying in return. But as time goes on, these satisfactions are becoming lesser things... I really need to catch up on some quality sleep to feel truly satisfied once more.

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2016-10-29 11:22:44 +0000 UTC]

That's nice of you to say, but unfortunately I haven't been doing very well at all in my subjects, however much I enjoy them. I'm actually caught between O-Levels and A-Levels - I started doing A-Levels while still finishing up my three remaining O-Levels subjects, so I'm doing both O-Level Physics, Chemistry and Maths and A-Level Biology, English Literature and Psychology simultaneously. I'm doing all right in Chemistry, but everything else!! Nope! Even though I love my A-Levels subjects, they're so jam-packed with detail that my brain is overheating. It's crazy!

I used to refuse to sleep until 4 AM or later as well, but there has to be a time where you consciously decide that you aren't going to do that to yourself anymore. Just set a time where you must turn all of the lights and digital devices off, whether or not you're in the middle of something, and you'll have no choice but to lie in bed. It will take you long, long hours to actually fall asleep, I know, but when you know there's something wrong with you, you are obliged to do something about it. I know you can! And NEVER self-diagnose, particularly not at your age. You're too young to blindly accept all of these health problems or wacky syndromes. Trust me, you can have more control over your body than you think if you just believe it. I self-diagnosed myself as having OCPD until I decided I wouldn't pull up defined excuses for bad behaviour. I self-diagnosed myself as a 'night owl' until I decided it was detrimental to my health, and then I just made a decision that I wouldn't stay awake past 12 AM. You learn to make do with new situations! You can adapt! Don't say you have DSPS. It makes you feel like your problems are beyond your control. Try to believe you can change things. Come on.

I sometimes draw during class as well, but in all of my A-Levels classes it's not an option unfortunately. I have to be constantly taking notes. I also try to engage in as many senses as possible with the teachers as they give their lessons, because I have very poor memory and a wandering mind - a combination which allows for the attention span of a goldfish if I'm not careful. I'm glad to hear your drawing has been fulfilling for you, even if it seems like you have a complicated relationship with it! I understand that. I've been refraining from writing because I want to convert all of my creative energy into enthusiasm for studying. It's not easy, especially when I wake up in the morning absolutely miserable, feeling like each day is another loop of anxiety and pointlessness, but with that enthusiasm I can remind myself that I enjoy my subjects, whether or not I'm good at them.

We both have weird ways of keeping ourselves going, but as long as they work most of the time, they're good enough!

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2016-11-01 22:44:00 +0000 UTC]

Oh... sorry to hear that you're not doing so well in the subjects you enjoy... but now that I'm reading your description of O-Levels and A-Levels for subjects... obviously, Estonia has a different education system, so can you explain to me what those levels are and what difference it makes for the subjects? Sorry for my confusion. |D
And at the very least, you're doing well in Chemistry! It's still something! ;w;

Yeah... well, it's not quite like I refuse sleep... I need more sleep than most people, but during the harder school periods in high school, for instance, it's simply impossible to get everything done after school with the time I have left. I'm often dead tired after school, folk dance and zoology, so I usually get home at 7 in the evening from Monday to Wednesday. Now, I'm also a timid person, so it takes roughly half an hour for me to set down at home again... but I often find myself so sleepy that I nap for at least 1,5 hours (over time, I've learned that this prevents too much grogginess upon waking up), and then what. I'd have to go to sleep at 22:30 to get 8 hours of sleep as should be, but for me, going to sleep before midnight, 00:00 is unthinkable. I've never really gone to sleep before that. The only times I go to sleep before midnight are the weekends, where I have nothing to prepare for the next day, so that I could get some decent rest at last. And in any case, 1,5 hours for studying is too little for me when there are difficult courses going on. We have a mad History teacher that gives us too much homework (we often have to write 2-8 pages in the notebook) for the next lesson, and Maths often has quite a lot to do, too. History normally took me 2-3 hours while Maths took another 2. Let's say I had both of these subjects to study for a certain day... If I started studying at 21:15, I'd complete studying at 1:00 (4 hours of studying, non-stop, without any breaks). But then I'd always feel like the whole evening went to waste on boring stuff, so I usually unwind with some drawing or social media after studying, then some skin-care as well (I have a transformed skin type due to acne medication, so I have to take care of it so it wouldn't go dry) and bam! 2 or 3 AM again. Sometimes, I would even study up to 3-4 AM, cutting off the unwinding part. It's a terrible cycle. Almost feels like being in prison when I don't unwind either. I simply can't make do without the napping either, because then I'd perform poorly in my homework. But I swear if school started later and less homework would be given (taking in regard timid people like me)... I'd fare a lot better sleep-wise. Only yesterday, I was able to go to sleep at 1 AM only because I had a minimal amount of homework and enough time to unwind. I think I did pretty well for myself yesterday, but with the amount of homework in the previous school period, it simply wasn't possible...

As for self-diagnosing... sometimes, I really do feel things are beyond my control. My strong sense of responsibility doesn't allow me to skip homework either, my creative side screams for unwinding after homework and my potential DSPD side says it's okay to go to sleep late at night and be really exhausted during the day. And funnily enough, this isn't a new situation either. I've been a night owl (not recognising it as a condition, rather than just a personality trait) since forever. The more I aged, the later my going-to-sleep hours shifted, but even in 1st grade, I did everything in my power to stay up past 10 PM, even though I was forced to bed at that time. I still stayed awake for quite a bit of time, and I only found that listening to music or quiet singing helped me fall asleep more quickly. As for potential disorders of mine... it was only recently that I brought some attention to some of my other concerning behaviours (skin-picking, hair-pulling after excessive amounts of stress, counting certain items to make sure I did everything, checking if I did homework time and again... potential neurosis, maybe out-right OCD? I don't think I would have OCPD. I read about the symptoms of both OCD and OCPD and I'm kind of concerned, because I feel like I might have some form of OCD. I will consult with a psychiatrist at some point about this... my Mother spoke with a psychiatrist on her own health check-up and mentioned potential Asperger's in us both, so the psychiatrist suggested to send me over at some point as well. While I'm not so certain about Asperger's, I am interested in DSPD and OCD and I need to know more. I will ask the psychiatrist about these once I finally get an appointment. And honestly, I don't even mind if I have some problems. No person is 100% healthy. I've come to realise every person has at least one physical weakness (skin for me) and one mental weakness (OCD? DSPD? Asperger's? I don't know about this yet, but I intend to find out and then go from there with the help of a professional), and I think all that is normal. I somehow feel that denying my problems might even make it worse. Denying any kind of problems that I have might lead me to ignoring them altogether, like I usually do... but you spoke of this in a different perspective. You mentioned excuses and bad behaviour. Yes, I do make excuses on staying up later, yes, I do have many kinds of bad behaviour. But how can I possibly stop this kind of self-harm? Skin-picking and hair-pulling, staying up late and constantly checking that I certainly did everything? Why does it still feel right when I do these things?? Why and how should I shut off these things that I feel are actually parts of me? I'm really lost here...)

Well, me drawing during classes also varies per subject. It depends on the teacher and the subject itself. Some subjects indeed require a student to be taking notes or interacting with something all the time, but other subjects leave me bored. That is when I draw during moments where I don't have to take notes or do exercises. I have a very high sense of responsibility and also a great attention span, so whatever happened during the lesson gets through to me easily... but it's the homework that often irks me, since I find myself most active at home in the evening so I tend to do a lot more than necessary... that's also the problem with me and studying at home. My high sense of responsibility helps me maintain good marks... but honestly, it's all at the cost of my sleep, usually...

And another thing. Creative energy and enthusiasm for studying are entirely different things. At least for me, they are. I have close to no enthusiasm for studying (especially homework), but my sense of responsibility usually forces me to do stuff anyway, regardless of whether I'm actually interested in the subject or not. The only thing that helps me feel alive is using my creative side to unwind. I feel like that's the only way to quell anxiety, misery and feelings of pointlessness. Just my two cents on that matter...

I'm sorry if some of the things I said are very contradicting to your ideals... but balancing school, sleep and creativity has become a very, very personal matter for me. It's probably one of the biggest challenges in my life. But I'm glad if you can offer any advice or still keep sharing your own thoughts on the subject! Discussing about this will probably provide solutions for the problems I harbour, too... it might even help me find greater balance during the school years.

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TurningLeaves In reply to DiamondNoor [2016-01-11 14:05:10 +0000 UTC]

And I didn't even favourite all of them!

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2015-11-02 12:00:47 +0000 UTC]

YOU
ARE
WELCOME!

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2015-11-02 14:06:36 +0000 UTC]

*gets blown away by the Spartan Voice*

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2015-11-03 04:31:42 +0000 UTC]

Ooops! *runs over and helps you back up*

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2015-11-04 08:44:21 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! *stands up*

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2015-10-22 03:32:08 +0000 UTC]

Whaaaa? I haven't changed my ID in years! Or did you mean the description on my page?

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2015-10-24 12:11:38 +0000 UTC]

I meant the description on your page... which is your deviantID.

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2015-10-26 04:10:14 +0000 UTC]

Ah, right. Silly me.

EDIT: But in that case, it wasn't really meant to be charming. Guess I failed there!

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2015-10-26 14:26:03 +0000 UTC]

Pffhehe, if you say so. But not everyone uses a poem to describe themselves... and that's what I found charming.

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2015-10-27 04:23:37 +0000 UTC]

Tehehe in that case, thanks!

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2015-10-27 20:45:04 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2015-09-01 06:21:38 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much, Deer! I got pooped on by a bird on my birthday - is that a sign of things to come, I wonder?

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2015-09-01 16:18:42 +0000 UTC]

You are most welcome, Safi!

Ahh, in my country, getting pooped on by a bird means good luck. And if the bird pooped directly on your head, that means you are literally showered in luck.

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2015-09-02 06:00:52 +0000 UTC]

Yay! I hope that means this will be a lucky year! It wasn't on the head (thankfully).

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2015-09-02 12:17:10 +0000 UTC]

Haha, let's hope for the best, indeed.

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2015-08-13 17:01:45 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome, I was seriously impressed!!

I've been well, thanks! I'm posting my fanfiction on the Tamriel Vault now! How have you been?

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2015-08-13 18:08:19 +0000 UTC]

Oh my, I really appreciate your thoughts. I put a lot of effort into that one, too.

You are most welcome! And... Tamriel Vault? Is it a fan-art site?
As for me... I've been well enough. I've been resting myself for high school... there'll be many new things to study this school year. I don't know how it will turn out, but I hope for the best. At the start of the summer, I was extremely weary... the last basic school year took its toll on me. I really don't intend to work as insanely in high school, but I want to pass so... I'll still have a lot to work for in the next school year. But otherwise, I've been feeling quite alright. Just doing some drawing and other quiet stuff.

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2015-08-15 11:32:22 +0000 UTC]

Peace to you Deer!

Haha, nope, the Tamriel Vault is a fan site for both the Elder Scrolls and Fallout. (It was originally called 'The Skyrim Blog'. The Fallout part was a recent addition due to Fallout 4 coming out soon, since the site was falling into decay. Only hardcore TES players are still on it.) There are things like character builds - which are by far the most popular part of the site - and fanfiction and fan art and even screenshots. It's a tight-knit community. Everyone knows everyone, or at least know their usernames.

Ah, school sucks. I hate talking about school. Let's talk about something else.
Quiet stuff like drawing, let's talk about that. Do you prefer drawing digitally or traditionally? Honestly, I still can't believe using canvas or paper is now considered 'traditional'. Call me old but that seems to be like calling paper 'quaint'.

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2015-08-15 12:01:32 +0000 UTC]

I see! "Tamriel Vault", eh... clever name mix-up between the two series. I like it.
That site does sound interesting, especially for people interested in either series. Maybe I'll check it out myself sometime, if I can put some time aside from my own art and maintaining my dA account! How tight-knit is Tamriel Vault, though? Do you know the approximate amount of users there, or something? Just curious...

Yep, agreed. School sucks. Let us move on with another subject, the one you suggested.
I can't really say which one I prefer, though... ever since I got a graphics tablet, I've been using both of the medias a lot. I can tell that traditional media is more convenient for quick sketching. I don't have a laptop (yet) and I can't carry my tablet everywhere (risk of breaking, and it may not come into contact with water at all), so carrying a sketchbook and a bunch of pencils around when I'm travelling is much more comfortable. Still, I like digital media a great deal. It practices coordination between eye and stylus (assuming one doesn't have a screen tablet), the art program choices are vast and the result is usually much smoother and clearer. If I want to show my traditional art on the interwebs, I must scan or photograph the pieces first... so that's a rather tight deal of work. Digital art requires another kind, but equal amount of work... I'd say digital art is a bit more difficult than traditional art, even.

See, in traditional art, you are limited to the tools and colours you already own, but in digital media (aside from the programs), you have pretty much unlimited resources. In traditional, you know your stuff through and through, but in digital, you keep finding new stuff to experiment with... custom brushes, textures, resources, tutorials, you name it. Sure, either media can mimick the other, but that's what's so fun about it... mixing medias is also possible. So I can't really say which one I like more, because they both have their unique features. I guess it depends on the mood and what I want to draw at the moment. There's a huge difference in results, but both are equally fun to me.

I'm not sure why traditional media is exactly called "traditional" now, though. I'm guessing it has something to do with people having used real paints, real brushes and real canvas for centuries now. The earliest cave paintings were made milennias ago. It's just that making art in these circumstances is so naturally ancient that it simply deserves the word "traditional". I can't imagine how to call it otherwise, really. "Digital" is a much more logical term, however... everything is narrowed down to a bunch of metal gadgets you use to create something in the virtual world. You only portray your art on a screen. That doesn't mean digital art isn't reality... digital pieces are printed and sculpted into the real world more than often.

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2015-08-17 04:25:56 +0000 UTC]

Peace to you!

Haha oh no, not that tight-knit - there are tons of users that just make an account and then leave, or spend years lurking without commenting, liking or posting. I mostly know the people on the fanfiction part of the site. 

Ah, I see. I only use paper and either pens or pencils - not very sophisticated, but it serves my purpose. I don't care to showcase it online, either, because I draw to get a visual idea of what my characters look like. Then it's easier for me to describe them with words.

Huh, nice insight. It makes a lot of sense if you look at it that way. But in my house, 'art' is traditional art and my mother only figured out that digital art was a thing a few years ago.

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2015-08-17 09:06:28 +0000 UTC]

Haha, I understand. Maybe I'll check out Tamriel Vault in the future, after all.

Like they say - whatever floats your boat. It isn't an obligation to showcase everything you create online. Just demonstrate the things that you think need showcasing or feedback. Besides, as far as I know, literature is your strong point. Posting some excerpts from your stories every now and then wouldn't be a bad idea, right?

Yeah, I get what you mean. Digital art is a relatively new term. It's young... the earliest forms of digital media were in the 1970s. It gained popularity only in the 1990s. Now that one would think about it, computers are still a rather new invention, too. Computers are what allowed digital art to be a thing. So yup...

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TurningLeaves In reply to DeeryDeerth [2015-08-19 06:23:24 +0000 UTC]

Peace to you!

It would be great to see you there, if you do decide to take a look.

My thoughts exactly. I need to get better at what I love somehow, yeah?

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DeeryDeerth In reply to TurningLeaves [2015-08-19 12:18:33 +0000 UTC]

That's right.

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TurningLeaves In reply to DiamondNoor [2015-08-03 05:52:43 +0000 UTC]

Prego!

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TurningLeaves In reply to DiamondNoor [2015-06-01 10:15:58 +0000 UTC]

No thanking!

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DiamondNoor In reply to TurningLeaves [2015-06-01 10:31:47 +0000 UTC]

Yes thanking.

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