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[2006-11-17 04:58:28 +0000 UTC]
"Chris"
(United States)
# Statistics
Favourites: 6665; Deviations: 24; Watchers: 81
Watching: 275; Pageviews: 35218; Comments Made: 2383; Friends: 275
# Interests
Favorite visual artist: Jhonen Vasquez, Issac HornFavorite movies: Can't say I like so many.
Favorite bands / musical artists: I'm eclectic so depends on the genre.
Favorite writers: H.P. Lovecraft & Robert Bloche made me believe in the cosmic horrors.
Favorite games: Vagrant Story
Favorite gaming platform: XBox 360
Tools of the Trade: 6 ft long scalpel
Other Interests: Want to see the end of the world or one of my stories become a movie. Whichever comes first.
# About me
Current Residence: Surf shack in JerseyFavourite genre of music: Rock in general don't care too much about dividing it into subgenres.
Favourite photographer: ?
Favourite style of art: I like the japanese and european styles mixed together.
Operating System: ?
MP3 player of choice: ipod
Shell of choice: Shotgun
Wallpaper of choice: Whatever art is more bitchin than my last wallpaper.
Skin of choice: Someone elses
Favourite cartoon character: Zorak and GIR
Personal Quote: ...
# Comments
Comments: 258
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The other way around.
NOW, I actually get responses from those I had ADDRESSED to begin with.
And I can see some even sharing them, lol.
Whereas I stopped getting my Notifications flooded with "hurr-durr-atheism-is-da-grate" annoyances - which did NOT address the topic I was raising in my threads, but instead threw ad hominem avalanches all over me "just because they can".
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Or you can be an adult and simply ignore the responses that you deem trollish. TimeHasAnEnd used to constantly flood my inbox with little more than half baked insults that fail basic grammar. I never responded to them, and eventually I simply blcked him. He went through a period of badmouthing me to people I was having discussions with until he eventually stopped all together. I dealt with my troll, and I did so without running away from the forums.
You brought the trolls upon yourself by constantly making your childish little call out threads hoping that you can get the forum community to gang up on someone you didn't like over what was typically someing superficial. That made you little more than a schoolyard bully. That and your tendancy to insult the religious beliefs of others while whining about how no one respects your religious belief. As much as you want to deny it, you are still a troll. And a hypocrite at that.
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Blocking is a good idea in general, but I don't want to look like a hypocrite when I complain about others blocking me - and I still stand by the point that blocking DOES NOT solve the actual issue whatsoever, it just raises a temporary wall between two enemies.
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My blocking of Timey was justified in that it did not arrise out of meer difference of opinion but rather a constant bombardment of nothing more than personal insults that continued even though I simply kept on deleting them without responding or even reading them most times. The wall is not temporary if you never unblock them. Timey has no control over me, even with his feeble attempts to get my attention after the blocking.
You have the power to simply ignore those you deem as trolls, but interestingly enough you go out of your way to seek their attention. Case in point- reading my threads and responding to those you have regarded as trolls. It is like you enjoy the negative attention but don't want to admit that is what you seek. You complain about the trolls even though you go out of your way to feed them and even act like a troll yourself which garners you even more negative attention. And at the hieght of your last call out thread's popularity, you purposfully kept the thread opened even though you claimed to have wanted it shut down and proclaimed that you would cease posting on the forums to wait for the negative comments to slowly die down. But, if you really wanted it to stop, you could have easily and at any time closed down the thread yourself. You even continue to engage with me even though nothing we are talking about has anything to do with the inspired thread.
Everything you do affectively contradicts your stated desires. How do you justify yourself?
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Would you like to be blocked by me?
I doubt it, but according to your own logic here, I would have blocked you long ago.
Mine is different, so I still try reasoning even with guys like you.
I just prefer to do it in a more 1-on-1 way.
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I have already explained at great length how your "LOLgic" is counterproductive to your stated goal. You hide away from the forums to avoid trolls yet you go out of your way to engage with those you regard as trolls.
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Not to avoid TROLLS.
To avoid SPAM BY TROLLS instead.
Which will hardly happen, if I only address it in a 1-on-1 way, since I highly avoid posting on the profiles of spam bots, one of which you ARE NOT.
You are an "informational troll" (who can be at least talked to, and receiving responses from, even if tainted by troLOLgic), not a "spam bot troll" (some of which literally post stuff like "hurr-durr" in place of a response, and I do mean literally literally).
Those are VERY different types.
Your trolling is in your opinion (which can be hopefully eventually changed with proper information), not in your behavior (which is such precisely for the sole reason of annoying the victim).
I still call people like you "trolls" (and "zombies") - but it has a way different meaning than that of "spam bots".
"Zombie" (alternatively: "propaganda-phag", from the Latin word, not a curse) is a category referring to opinion, not to behavior.
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Have you tried not constantly being an asshole to everyone? I know that it is basic social skills, but i think you might be able to pull it off if you actually wanted to.
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I won't bother with social skills towards propaganda-phags.
Do you even understand that word?
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There's your egomania talking again. Thinking that you don't need to treat people with any respect because they are beneath you. You are asking me if I understand the phrase "propoganda-phags". Well it is obvious what "propoganda" means. That beingΒ information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view. I suppose you view people not taking you seriously when you say that reality works on video game logic as propoganda. The word is so often used to mislabel those which one simply does not share their opinions with. And I assume that "phag" is a slang you made up as a take on the derogatory word "fag".
In the end, it is just one of your many childish insults that speaks volumes of just how hopelessly immature and intolerant you are. Here is a question that I have asked you many times in the past yet you never seem fit to answer it: why do you think you deserve respect when you refuse to show respect to anyone else?
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Oops, it's "phage" instead (that's due to me and too much of my Russian thinking, lol).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phage_(dβ¦
Still, you should have guessed the correct context from the juxtaposition of it with "propaganda" and "zombie" (the latter contextually being the result of the former, by the way).
Instead, you went for the meaning YOU are more in-tune with - which is a curse word, loool.
I don't even need to further stress it with my curse words (like you assumed in your other post that I would do) - YOU did enough yourself, as always.
LOOOL!!!
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You are critisizing too much that I mistook your typo for a different kind of detogatory slant. Though, given your religious fundamentalist worldview, an irrational distain for homosexuals would not be the least bit out of character. So you'll have to find it in your heart to forgive me for not correctly guessing which word you were trying to spell. And as I already pointed out, the term "propoganda" is too often used to mislabel those whom people merely disagree with, it is a logical fallacy employed to villify one's opponent. I could very well say that you are a propoganda phage of Young Earth Creationism. Tell me, why did you not answer my question at the end? It does seem to be a question I often ask yet you always fail to address it.
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That's precisely what I so "love" about real trolls:
Their ability to "see inside other people's minds, read their thoughts, and make coherent conclusions based on it".
*NOT!*
We all are propaganda-phages one way or another.
The real brain starts with looking up the sources for and behind it, though.
Which is what I see way too many people FAILING to do altogether - especially of those two categories that I mentioned previously.
I'm rude, not intolerant.
Otherwise I would've just blocked anyone the moment they burp something I disagree with.
Instead, I waste time on reasoning with them - and YOU.
Also, I don't see a single post about me asking for respect - unless you imply that "coherent posting" IS a form of respect (which it, interestingly enough, IS).
Oh, and ad hominem is not disrespect - it's much more just an objectively shitty argument in the first place.
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Never claimed to be able to read your mind. Don't know where you got the idea thet I could. You using the misspelling "phag" could have been interpreted in one of two ways, you really are making too much of a big deal over what is essentially your own error. If we are all "propogand-phages" as you say then that means you are one too. Thus you have no grounds to critisize others for being what you also are... unless you feel like being a hypocrite of course. You never try to reason with people, you just insult them then throw one of your infamous temper tantrums when you don't get your way. And you have made more than enough of your own threads that serve no other purpose than to mock either indivuduals or entire groups.
You are the very thing that you claim to despise.
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Let's just say that the following is a good example of how I differ from 99.99% of these "phages".
www.youtube.com/watch?v=06F6qPβ¦
(I've seen something like this on TV maaany years ago, this is just approximately the same commercial I refer to. The point is that I still remember MY reaction over all these years.)
*General* reaction?
"Wow, great soap, etc."
*MY* reaction?
"Why. The. Heck. Do. You. LEAVE. That. ONE. Germ. AT. ALL??? What - is it maybe for BREEDING??? LOOOL!!!"
I hardly expect you to GET this POINT, though.
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The only point you seem to be making is that you have an over inflated ego. And the only thing that it has gotten you is now your presense is restricted to people's user pages because you have worn out your welcome on the forums. By the way, seeing as how you continue to refer to people as viruses and parasites, I guess you were lying when you said you would stop insulting people.
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No, but that comment alone is DESTROYING the whole PURPOSE of that commercial to be all about "the greatest soap you can buy" to begin with.
Meaning that I'm IMMUNE to the "propaganda" of that advertisement.
I never said I'm alone like this - but if the majority of people were getting SARCASTIC REACTIONS to such adverts, nobody would BUY that soap in the first place, which is the opposite of the factual truth (and I'm not even saying that the soap is bad, just that its "propaganda" FAILED to AFFECT me, or rather it did the exact opposite of what was intended, which was to make me IMPRESSED by the soap, not get all SARCASTIC about it).
You are truly too stupid to see this point, it seems, especially since you can't even detach your bias-dripping ad hominem towards me, from actually understanding the point itself.
You suck, mistah.
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Again, you show that you are disingenuous about your claim to stop insulting people. Maybe it is a compulsion and you couldn't keep yourself from doing it even if you tried. By the way, the vast majority of people know that the whole "99.9% of germs" in advertisement is BS. Especially since nearly every cleaning product makes that same claim. You may as well congratulate yourself for figuring out that professional wrestling is staged. Thus far I do not see what point you are trying to make other than a possibly a delusional and egonamiacal statement that you simply view yourself to be intellectually superior to the general public. And before you let your ego run wild again, allow me to enlighten you that a person not understanding what you are trying to convay is not a sign that they lack intelligence, it is a sign that you lack communication skills. I know that you already got over excited from me not correctly guessing what word you misspelled.
Is there any point in bringing up the hypocracy of you constantly relying on your own "bias-dripping ad hominens" whenever you speak to people? At least I don't go around calling you a "stink-breath" or a "brain-dead zombie". Though if this interaction is going to same route as your typical interactions, I predict that it isn't long before you break down into one of your infamous temper tantrums. At least this time you won't make a childish call-out thread about it.
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Giving up again, you are so disappointing.
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Not afraid.
It actually works the way I wished - I get sufficiently LESS trollish posts in RESPONSE to whatever I write.
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You are afraid, as much as you try to justify your cowardice. Nothing stopped you from writing whatever you liked before. The only thing that you didn't like was other people getting to write whatever they liked towards you. I guess you only care about freedom of speech when it is your speech and no one else's.
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I think you did see the amount of irrelevant spam I usually got in response to anything non-atheist-aligned.
As in, not valid expressions of different opinions (which was my goal to begin with) - but literally "hurr-durr"-level "posts" by arrogant trolls exploding with "Internet freedom".
In the dozens.
So stop pretending.
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Again, the last thread you created before you ran away with your tail between your legs was a childish call out thread where you were attempting to get the forum community to gang up on me over a mistake so insignificant that no one took your side. You definitly were no looking for any kind of serious debate. And I have witnessed you time and again ruin any serious duscussion that anyone was willing to have with you by breaking down into ad hominens over nothing then acting like a victim when they respond in kind. Heck, I recall you making a tread where all you did was mock Catholics for theirΒ communion ritual. So clearly you are guilty of more than a few instances of "hurr-hurr- everyone but me is stupid", hypocrite.
Here's a curious question. I know very well that two people whom you consider "brain dead trolls" are myself and Saeter. And yet, the two people who I have witnessed you attempting to have a "serious discussion" on their user page is myself and Saeter. In fact, the latest posts you made on Saeter's page is based on a thread that I made. And let's be honest here, the majority of conversations you have on people's user pages is about why you are posting on their user pages. So since you are going out of your way to speak directly to those you deem as trolls, and you are not really getting the "serious discussions" that you claim to want, the question is: why are you lying to me?
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Should I block you for constantly insulting me without no basis for it except for your own arrogance?
Because your posts are 50-80% filled with EXACTLY the type of words YOU told me that I should BLOCK.
My point exactly.
I don't block EVEN those whom I see as pretty much idiots - because I can't stay indifferent TO your idiocy in the first place.
I have an urge to "fix" your arrogance-slash-ignorance somehow.
It might even be kinda unhealthy, but it's still me trying to fix you, not vice versa.
You instead just resort to insults whenever you disagree with me - without showing even a little wish to actually "fix" that which you see as "wrong".
You simply enjoy BASHING me for it, not "making me any better" whatsoever.
At least I certainly don't see you ever trying it.
That's pretty much the major difference between us - I care for you improve (even if I fail at not being rude while doing it), whereas you only care to simply bash me more (usually without even giving any valid background to your bashing in the first place).
Dat's ol fowks.
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Again with your egomania and hypocracy. The saddest thing is that you are never able to see how your own actions so closely reflect that which you claim to despise. So often you mock and belittle people just for believing in a religion that you don't share. So often your ridicule and hubris comes from ignorance. The very idea that you are so self absorbed that you believe you are trying to "fix" me is actually revolting.Β
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There are only two subsets of "religion" that I mock:
a. Fanfiction based on fanon assumptions - like Christianity and Islam basing their MOST BASIC ideas on Judaism, while utterly ignoring OTHER BASIC ideas of that very Judaism.
b. Atheism's denial of being exactly as much "belief-based" as ANY other "religion" - with their "god" being "the denial OF God", and their "scripture" being all the unprovable pseudo-science like "evolution" and its causal off-shoots like "billions of years".
I hardly ever mock stuff like Hinduism or general Polytheism - even though those are much more "foreign" and "not tolerated" as far as monotheism goes.
But those are beliefs that aren't HYPOCRITICAL - they're merely MISTAKEN and/or honestly IGNORANT.
I don't bash people for HONEST mistakes - but I will never relent from bashing HYPOCRITES who pretend that they are "genuine".
Which only applies to the aforementioned TWO cases - ignoring one's own direct roots that gave birth to it, and pretending to not be a mere belief when it clearly is.
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And are you completely free of ignorance and mistakes? I don't think so. Perhaps you should get off your high horse and try fixing yourself before you even think about "fixing" others. You have proven time and again that you are willfully ignorant of a great many things beyond the text if your religion's pages. You frequently mocked that which you do not understand. And your way of dismissing things as well established and supported as science is with unprovable fantasies like how reality works on video game logic, and mocking those who do not treat your video game beliefs seriously, and getting offensive when they point out its flaws.
It is legitimately sad that to this day, you cannot recognize how the way you treat people is the reason why you get so much negative attention. Instead calling people childish names for not treating you with the respect you think you are entitled to. Such respect that you refuse to show others. It is like you cannot see the world beyond your own ego.
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I agree that I must stop calling people names - you are correct there (and I should actually stop doing it, indeed).
None of whatever else you said has anything to do with negating my points in the previous post, though.
Especially about "scientific atheism" being solely based on something empirically untestable, yet taken for some "sacred truth" by the followers - just like in ANY other "religion" they themselves mock.
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Huh, look at that. You sot to "fix" me yet I have convinced you to try and fix one of your flaws. Though I'll be more convinced of your conviction when you can put it into practice. Doesn't show a great start when the other message of yours I just responded to has you coining the phrase "propoganda phags".
And I won't even begin the argument again about your virtual reality dinosaur or video game advanced start belief. Though I will once again point out the hypocracy of you frequently and unabashedly mocking any religious belief besides your own. Something basic about life that you will have to learn eventually is that respect is a two way street. And if you want to act like s jerk, don't go crying when people treat you like a jerk. These are all things that I have told you many times before but have always fallen on deaf ears.
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So, random question: How do you pronounce your user name? I've been saying it like "satyr".
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Does it to you?
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I speak truthfully and I do not act in any way that could be concidered cowardly. Think that you could try coming up with a better comeback that doesn't boil down to the schoolyard caliber of "I'm rubber, you're glue"?
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