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# Statistics
Favourites: 457; Deviations: 42; Watchers: 91
Watching: 179; Pageviews: 15610; Comments Made: 485; Friends: 179
# Comments
Comments: 92
Invisimable [2023-02-21 15:44:13 +0000 UTC]
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Dyel75 [2016-03-08 17:00:51 +0000 UTC]
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
I Hope You Have a Very Nice Day!!!
Best Wishes and Greetings From Brazil!!!
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YukaTakeuchiFan [2015-03-08 20:04:01 +0000 UTC]
Happy birthday. Have another ominously-staring kitty face. :3
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KellTain In reply to YukaTakeuchiFan [2015-03-09 04:57:23 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! I shall put it over by the other ominous staring animal faces.
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Dyel75 [2015-03-08 17:00:46 +0000 UTC]
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
I Hope You Have a Very Nice Day!!!
Best Wishes And Greetings From Brazil!!!
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Revenant-Shade [2015-02-08 20:36:52 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the watch. Like what you saw I suppose?
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YukaTakeuchiFan [2014-03-08 23:43:33 +0000 UTC]
Happy birthday. Have an ominously-staring kitty face. :3
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KellTain In reply to YukaTakeuchiFan [2014-03-09 16:55:15 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, Yuka! I shall contemplate what it means.
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KellTain In reply to Nemufae [2014-01-14 15:07:16 +0000 UTC]
You're welcome--keep up the good work!
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MisterOppai [2013-09-13 17:42:19 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the watch and a bunch of other things!
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KellTain [2012-05-23 06:21:14 +0000 UTC]
I honestly don't know how I'm so stubborn. How I'm so stubborn to stomach a eight hour or so conversation on such myriad topics as economic pressures, ontological and deontological viewpoints, the history of Native American oppression in the United States, when killing is justified and personal philosophy. All the while enduring belittling, dismissing, misquotations and frenzied accusations. All to simply try to help you understand another person's point of view, to try and reconcile a series of abrupt misunderstandings that ended with a spew of anger and hurt feelings.
In this entire discussion, I never once accused you of behaving childishly. I never brought into question your mental age. I never made any guesswork at your social life outside of these boards. Yet I cannot say that storming out of the chat while calling me a lying little shit is the conscious conduct of a mature adult.
I will be able to sleep soundly, knowing that I conducted myself in full measure in agreement with my personal philosophies. You say you gave me a multitude of chances, well, I can say the same. At this point, all I can hope for you is that you likewise conducted yourself in full measure in agreement with your personal philosophies, whether or not I happen to agree with them. May you find peace wherever you may roam.
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BullyVitcim17 In reply to KellTain [2012-05-23 18:54:44 +0000 UTC]
You stomachd? Kid, you just wanted to hear yourself talk...And yes, stubborn. You were so stubborn, that even when you admitted my points were right, you SOMEHOW would not admit that I was right even though my points just proved so....Thats some serious cognitive dissonace. I guess I'm upset because I wasted my time. I pegged you for a childish, stubborn, biased fool from the start, yet, I GAVE YOU A CHANCE, and you just dissappointed me. You wasted my time. I SHOULD have just dismissed you, instead, it took 8 hours for you to prove me right. And how I wish I was wrong, I really wish you were not a pseudo-intellectual and instead a person who wasn't stubborn and instead thinks. But, this Does Not Make You An Asshole, just a stubborn idiot, so, I again have to apologize for my outburst. Being stupid isn't wrong or evil, and you were just trying to help in the way You Thought was morally best. So, I'm sorry for my outburst. I don't expect forgiveness, but I think you're the type who lies apologies, so, there's mine...May the Emperor protect.
P.S. Thats how you do a REAL apology, by actually do it to the person's,er, face XD
P.S.S. You got Space Marine for PC, so, you probably got the Blood Ravens exculsive skin...lucky bastard
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KellTain In reply to BullyVitcim17 [2012-05-23 19:23:10 +0000 UTC]
Then I suppose it's remarkable how symmetrical our experiences are.
I was not trying to change your opinion. I was trying to make you understand how other opinions are possible, how other opinions and perspectives can inform other people's behavior. I think once you can wrap your head around that, you will be able to more easily understand other people, and, through that, see how your actions can be interpreted. If your opinion changes as a result of that broadening perspective, then all the better. But such was not my explicit goal.
In order to solve an issue of misunderstanding, I sought to spread greater understanding. In order to diminish rudeness, I sought to maintain politeness in all of my conduct. In order to diminish conflict, I sought peace. I might not be a man of God, but I seek, through my choices, to uphold my own views on how a person should act. That those choices, at times, are hard, does not diminish their necessity.
This is another core tenet of my views--man is, in all things, a rational being. The rationality merely varies in its degrees. There is a reason for everything someone does. They may know it or not, they may agree with it or not. But that reason still exists.
There were moments in the conversation when I genuinely thought I had helped you realize the reasons behind their behavior. Brief windows of hope, where I thought for the slightest moment you might have been able to muster some empathy for those you have declared evil, for those you have declared your enemies. I truly think that it is only once you have mustered that empathy that you will be able to get them to approach your perspective with an equal degree of understanding, and put this regrettable chapter in your experiences with them behind you.
Being able to do so--being able to see the reasons behind their behavior, without clinging to simplistic notions of ultimate good and ultimate evil, or resorting to clean and simple labels to affix to people--would not have made you wrong. But I think it would have certainly changed your actions. In the end, that's what matters.
Thank you for your apology. I will take it in the spirit it was offered. And hey, if you want to talk about something other than this massive FUBAR, I'd be more than happy to.
Oh, and, while I may have gotten the Blood Ravens exclusive skin, it exists in that uncomfortable theoretical state that you can only find in software that doesn't actually run successfully, so, I think overall, you probably made the better purchase decision on that one.
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BullyVitcim17 In reply to KellTain [2012-05-23 23:04:05 +0000 UTC]
Sorry, but I didn't really read your post by the way. I don't like walls of text, even though I sometimes leave them. I saw "I had the same experience", which I might doubt, considering I never changed the subject or ignored your points and did address your points, but I guess its another case of people Feeling things, even if those feelings aren't based in reality or truth. so, I'm sorry if you Felt I wasn't listening to you. And still sorry for the intermitent rudeness. Yes, this was a misunderstanding on their part, but not at all on mine. I understand everything that has happened fully. I know why they got offended, persecuted me, etc. I KNOW that people often don't think or look at the whole side of the story. People will attack the person who is angry, even if the anger is justifed completly and that person is right. people are stupid, this is not a mystery. So, I'm sorry for, er, doing...something... to convey that I was confused about the situation. But, thanks for trying to 'help' me. Good intentions are noble and that makes you a decent person. As for us 'talking' about other things...I'm not really sure there would be a venue for that, unless you know of another artist that does livestreams. I'd be very thankful to hear of some if you do know. Of course some that are not bullies or overly-sensitive XD Otherwise, it would be hard, considering we're blocked o_0
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KellTain In reply to BullyVitcim17 [2012-05-24 07:32:25 +0000 UTC]
As I would have a hard time assessing who you would not read as either a bully or overly sensitive, I don't know if I could make a fair recommendation on that. I mean, that wasn't my read of any of the people that you evidently have a problem with. I can understand your means of assessment, but since I tend to not get into those situations in the first place, I don't know if I could accurately peg a given streamer as being positive or negative on that scale, if you follow me.
Besides, judging by your favorites, your tastes seem to be all over the place in comparison to mine (or at least I can't peg any kind of unifying theme, apart from the female form), so I don't know if I could really recommend even a given artist. I guess at this point the only option you have is continuing the proud tradition of internet migrancy and seeing if you can find a corner of the internet of your own that suits your tastes in people and content. Best of luck.
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BullyVitcim17 In reply to KellTain [2012-05-24 20:52:04 +0000 UTC]
lol, internet migrancy, thats an interesting term. Well, I've just really gotten into these livestream things. So, if you know ANY artist that does livestreams often, please let me know. If you do, please comment on my main account, as I'm probably going to delete these accounts soon. I'm sure there will be other people who need the user named 'bullied victim' to describe themselves...unfortunately T-T
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JangoFettX [2012-05-23 06:02:40 +0000 UTC]
How are you such a stubbornb shit? I gave you so many arguements. And then you said.."nu-hu" You're response was literally "Durp, uh..no you dint!!!" I listened to you for HOURS, then you FUCKING LIE and say I'm not listening to your points...HOW FUCKING BRAIN DEAD ARE YOU??!?!?! I gave you so many chances kid, but you just acted like a pathetic little child...again.
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