Indra-Gora In reply to Prophet-malum [2014-09-09 11:23:15 +0000 UTC]

haha oh yeah? well maybe so~ thankee!

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CLAWSWANS In reply to PsykoHilly [2012-10-06 12:58:57 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the birthday wish x this is Indra-gora with another account. I cannot use this account for now thankyou Psychoi-lilly ))

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Indra-Gora In reply to LesleyCristina [2012-05-29 12:43:39 +0000 UTC]

Hvala~~~

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Indra-Gora In reply to PsykoHilly [2012-05-29 15:48:42 +0000 UTC]

welcome~~~ thanks to you!~

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Indra-Gora In reply to wtrw [2011-12-24 23:46:23 +0000 UTC]

Thanks sweet friend~~ you are a such a great star~~~ Thanks! and happiest time forever for you!!!

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Indra-Gora In reply to HORNEDQUAD [2011-12-24 21:36:20 +0000 UTC]

Your welcome man, i really love your dark visions of horror!!! I really love the capital Horror!!! dark and monstrous and beautiful! Happiest holidays!!!

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HORNEDQUAD In reply to Indra-Gora [2011-12-27 23:15:56 +0000 UTC]

Thank You Very Much! Your gallery is pretty damn sick as well... keep up the great work!
CHEERS!

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Indra-Gora In reply to pantrljak [2011-12-10 02:39:42 +0000 UTC]

I Love you more more moreeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
You cannot imagine~~~Infinity..so on..

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Indra-Gora In reply to AShleyBell [2011-12-08 00:06:27 +0000 UTC]

Love is the law around here haha

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AShleyBell In reply to Indra-Gora [2011-12-08 00:41:24 +0000 UTC]

the law? But the law are just words. How can we love words? ahahahahaha

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Indra-Gora In reply to AShleyBell [2011-12-08 02:04:59 +0000 UTC]

words are words and love is the law.. haha The Law is the Universe dancing with the Joy of Love in her breast. Love is the Law because it's what unites us all and makes us understand we are all a part of the same dance...lol

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Indra-Gora In reply to Indra-Gora [2011-12-09 12:54:28 +0000 UTC]

Whoaaaaaaaaaaaa. hey there divine cosmic Agency... haha Spiritual minded guru with a heartful of gold treasure to share... Very nice and impressive beyond what i can answer. lol Now, that's what i call a message!!!
You speak so freely and without difficulty in explaining these hyper-meta-physical revelations.
I have to wonder at how you ever learned all these.. erm, how about-spiritual reflections of the absolute. lol
Can i sense what? you mean to say that behind the curtain of illusions we consider who we are in thoughts or in our nurtured composite personalities; is the Universal oneness of all life with which is like a web of light so vast and infinite across space we can never imagine it all. lol
Light born from the primal source of Mother night? Great mother Nuit to which we aspire and can never circumnavigate her so vast circumference...
Hey, i pretty much do understand the germ of truth in us all and it's all so great supremecy. however, what can you really do in having no fear.. without having a monstrous ego to satisfy by showing off.
Do we all become so serious in our ways and dedicate ourselves to the growth of spirituality?. Or do we just let it unfold and watch eternity do it's own predestined for plan.
I'm not so sure with myself to know what the great work for me should be. especially in when is said. To know thyself... To know thyself as a star seed? then what more to know? the self that can forever change and be anybody you like to imagine haha...
Just amusing myself with this chattering diatribe haha but i enjoy reading your deep understanding and still wonder if it was from meditation or by some other means you came to be so... Illuminated lol
Ok, this is all pretty much well known and available to us all at anytime. The truth is within us and we are all actors on a stage playing out our lives as if it was the greatest secret show on earth.
To evolve and spread out across the universe with our cosmic seed and populate new planets before our dying sun exhausts itself lol

Can i sense it? I can and know for what you say is good!
Hey well, as you say, it's all very good to be aware of the bigger picture in which there is no death to life....
perpetually recycled in space to be created into newer and lifeforms.. haha
It's just for the now, if do accept the truth as it is... with enough understand of the bigger picture and with all it's anti-stress free merits. You still have to be an actor upon the stage and do what you can to inspire love and growth in everyone we meet. But, despite all these concepts or rather realizations of the true source..
It's not so wrong to still have emotions that are too as real as the deep inner self.. the unborn.. The unmanifested watcher... The overseer... or whatever... These feelings are still as sacred as anything else to me..
Love and hate... Even if they are the dualistic components of our seperateness..
If everything as it really is and then there is no seperateness even in being one or the other...
Then i guess depending on ourselves and knowing for what it is before we can..

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AShleyBell In reply to Indra-Gora [2011-12-08 15:13:46 +0000 UTC]

you mean this moment? THe law itself is not hole with this moment...thats why science and religion should join together once and for all!

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Indra-Gora In reply to AShleyBell [2011-12-08 21:35:30 +0000 UTC]

Maybe you are right and it would work out something great. I'm not religeous myself and like it best if everybody has their own freedom to live and believe what they like..
Chaos magick for me seems like a good bet. lol

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AShleyBell In reply to Indra-Gora [2011-12-08 21:46:02 +0000 UTC]

It is true. One has to understand why one dreams.
One dreams because there are unfulfilled moments, repressed desires, things that you wanted to do, but could not because of the society, because of the culture, because of the religion. Animals don't dream. Primitive people don't dream. I have come across aboriginal tribes in India which are still living five thousand years before-they don't dream. More a man becomes repressed, civilized, starts repressing his nature and projecting a certain personality which is respectable, then there are dreams.
Dreams are simply to help you. What you could not do in your waking hours, you can do in your sleep. They are a kind of substitute. That's why Sigmund Freud and his school of psychoanalysis was so much interested in your dreams. They were not interested what you think in the day. That is all hypocrisy. What they were interested was what you dream in the night, because that will give them the clue of the true person.

But a Sigmund Freud will be absolutely amazed if he meets me. Because I never leave anything incomplete. I do only what I want to do, irrespective of any consequences. I don't care about respectability. I don't care about what others think of me. I simply live my life. And because I live so intensely and totally that there is nothing residual* that can create the dreams. Dreams are your unlived life.

You can try a simple experiment. One day fast, and in the night you will have dreams of eating good and* very delicious food. Fasting created a dream about food. In the day repress your sexual desire and in the night you will have a sexual dream.
Freud's interest was very correct. To know about you exactly your dreams have to be known. Once your dreams are known, then you can be helped to become more natural, less repressive. And what are the points in your life where you have been denying yourself, sacrificing yourself, either in the name of the country, or in the name of religion?

I have never sacrificed anything. I have never done anything against myself. Whatever I want to say I say; whatever I want to do I do. I have never followed anybody; I have never taken anybody's advice. I have a very innocent, primitive, simple life. That's why there are no dreams.

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Indra-Gora In reply to AShleyBell [2011-12-08 23:15:59 +0000 UTC]

Beyond the senses is the mind, and beyond
the mind is reason, its essence. Beyond
reason is the Spirit in man, and beyond this
is the Spirit of the Universe, the evolver of
all.

hey There, i'm really impressed to read what you say and so much about dreaming.
I'm glad you feel so free to live your life totally and without fear of consequences.
Hey, you really seem like a spiritually enlightened being on her way to spiritual greatness everlasting lol. I agree with what you said about how dreams are mostly what we have when we do not act our lives fully and so on. We all carry the residues of our waking lives into dreams also to be mixed and made so strange.
My interest now in dreams comes from exercises to perform to induce dreams we wish to have.
Say i wish to dream i will find an answer to a question and if recall is good with practice upon waking you'll always get the answer you need. Ordinary dreams are mostly just alot of random pieces of our thoughts we happen to have most of. But, with practice dreams can become more lucid and clearer for us to remember. With more practice we can become conscious of dreaming itself and then wish to travel to places in the astral realm by visually imagining it around us.
The more we practice at this, the better we can become at mind travelling in thise ethereal waves haha
It might all seem like fantasy and imagined.. but it really works and we can even telepathically communicate to people from anywhere on earth in this way. Even with the planetary bodies and the forces that govern over them. This is the art of Magick in dreaming. and it beats the hell out of ordinary dreaming left to occur of it's own accord lol okee dokee.
Sigmund freud is right to have been so analytical in saying much of our psychological problems we have are from the first developmental stages of experiencing sex. It's the dual nature we have inside that needs correct balancing.
I said all this without restraint so i hope it makes sense to you and sure you have an understanding of true dreaming. There are always dreams~~~greater dreams!!! ))

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AShleyBell In reply to Indra-Gora [2011-12-09 01:12:56 +0000 UTC]

The mind is always either in the past or in the future. It cannot be in the present, it is absolutely impossible for the mind to be in the present. When you are in the present, the mind is there no more because mind means thinking. How can you think in the present? You can think about the past; it has already become part of the memory, the mind can work it out. You can think about the future; it is not yet there, the mind can dream about it.

Mind can do two things: either it can move into the past; there is space enough to move, the vast space of the past — you can go on and on and on. Or the mind can move into the future; again vast space, no end to it — you can imagine and imagine and dream. But how can mind function in the present? It has no space for the mind to make any movement.

The present is just a dividing line, that’s all. It has no space. It divides the past and the future; just a dividing line. You can be in the present but you cannot think; for thinking, space is needed. Thoughts need space, they are just like things — remember it. Thoughts are subtle things, they are material; thoughts are not spiritual, because the dimension of the spiritual starts only when there are no thoughts. Thoughts are material things, very subtle, and every material thing needs space. You cannot be thinking in the present; the moment you start thinking it is already the past.

You see the sun is rising; you see and you say, “What a beautiful sunrise!” — it is already the past. When the sun is rising there is not even space enough to say, “How beautiful!”

because when you say these two words “How beautiful!” the experience has already become past, the mind already knows it in the memory. But exactly when the sun is rising, exactly when the sun is on the rise, how can you think? What can you think? You can be with the rising sun, but you cannot think. For you there is enough space, but not for thoughts.

A beautiful flower in the garden and you say, “A beautiful rose”; now you are not with this rose this moment; it is already a memory. When the flower is there and you are there, both present to each other, how can you think? What can you think? How is thinking possible? There is no space for it. The space is so narrow — in fact there is no space at all — that you and the flower cannot even exist as two because there is not enough space for two, only one can exist.

That’s why in a deep presence you are the flower and the flower has become you. You are also a thought — the flower is also a thought in the mind. When there is no thinking, who is the flower and who is the one who is observing? The observer becomes the observed. Suddenly boundaries are lost. Suddenly you have penetrated, penetrated into the flower and the flower has penetrated into you. Suddenly you are not two — one exists.

If you start thinking, you have become two again. If you don’t think, where is the duality? When you exist with the flower, not thinking, it is a dialogue, not a duologue but a dialogue. When you exist with your lover it is a dialogue, not a duologue, because the two are not there. Sitting by the side of your lover, holding the hand of your beloved, you simply exist. You don’t think of the days past, gone; you don’t think of the future reaching, coming — you are here, now. And it is so beautiful to be here and now, and so intense; no thought can penetrate this intensity. And narrow is the gate, narrow is the gate of the present. Not even two can enter into it together, only one. In the present, thinking is not possible, dreaming is not possible, because dreaming is nothing but thinking in pictures. Both are things, both are material.

When you are in the present without thinking, you are for the first time spiritual. A new dimension opens — that dimension is awareness. Because you have not known that dimension Heraclitus will say you are asleep, you are not aware. Awareness means to be in the moment so totally that there is no movement toward the past, no movement toward the future — all movement stops. That doesn’t mean that you become static. A new movement starts, a movement in depth.

There are two types of movement. And that is the meaning of Jesus’ cross: it shows two movements, a crossroads. One movement is linear: you move in a line, from one thing to another, from one thought to another, from one dream to another dream; from A you move to B, from B you move to C, from C you move to D. This way you move — in a line, horizontal.

This is the movement of time; this is the movement of one who is fast asleep. You can go like a shuttle, back and forth — the line is there. You can come from B to A, or you can go from A to B — the line is there. There is another movement which is in a totally different dimension. That movement is not horizontal, it is vertical. You don’t go from A to B, from B to C; you go from A to a deeper A: from A1 to A2, A3, 4, in depth — or in height.

When thinking stops, the new movement starts. Now you fall into depth, in an abyss-like phenomenon. People who are meditating deeply, they come to that point sooner or later; then they become afraid because they feel as if an abyss has opened — bottomless, you feel dizzy, you become afraid. You would like to cling to the old movement because it was known; this feels like death. That is the meaning of Jesus’ cross: it is a death. Going from the horizontal to the vertical is death — that is the real death.

But it is death only from one side; on the other side it is resurrection. It is dying, to be born; it is dying from one dimension to be born in another dimension. Horizontal you are Jesus, vertical you become Christ. If you move from one thought to another you remain in the world of time. If you move into the moment, not into thought, you move into eternity; you are not static — nothing is static in this world, nothing can be static — but a new movement, a movement without motivation.

Remember these words. On the horizontal line you move because of motivation. You have to achieve something — money, prestige, power, or God, but you have to achieve something; a motivation is there. A motivated movement means sleep.

An unmotivated movement means awareness — you move because to move is sheer joy, you move because movement is life, you move because life is energy and energy is movement. You move because energy is delight — not for anything else. There is no goal to it, you are not after some achievement. In fact you are not going anywhere, you are not going at all — you are simply delighting in the energy. There is no goal outside the movement; movement has its own intrinsic value, no extrinsic value. A Buddha also lives, a Heraclitus lives, I am here living, breathing — but a different type of movement… unmotivated.

Somebody was asking me a few days ago, “Why do you help people in meditation?”

I told him, “This is my delight. There is no why to it — I simply enjoy.” Just like a person enjoys planting seeds in the garden, waiting for the flowers, when you flower I enjoy. It is a gardening. When somebody flowers it is a sheer delight. And I share. There is no goal to it. If you fail, I am not going to be frustrated. If you don’t flower, that too is okay, because flowering cannot be forced. You cannot open a bud forcibly — you can, but then you kill it. It may look like a flowering; it is not a flowering.

The whole world moves, existence moves, into eternity; mind moves in time. Existence is moving into the depth and the height, and mind moves backwards and forwards. Mind moves horizontally: that is sleep. If you can move vertically, that is awareness.

Be in the moment. Bring your total being in the moment. Don’t allow the past to interfere, and don’t allow the future to come in. The past is no more, it is dead. And as Jesus says, “Let the dead bury their dead.” The past is no more! Why are you worried about it? Why do you go on chewing it again and again and again? Are you mad? It is no more; it is just in your mind, it is just a memory. The future is not yet. What are you doing thinking about the future? That which is not yet, how can you think about it? What can you plan about it? Whatsoever you do about it is not going to happen, and then you will be frustrated, because the whole has its own plan. Why do you try to have your own plans against it? Philosophy is the mind, it is about thinking. What I am speaking of is unexplainable, though that is what I am doing, ahahaha, it is hard..

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Indra-Gora In reply to AShleyBell [2011-12-09 01:58:29 +0000 UTC]

That's very great honey, beautiful in every word you said. Thanks for caring to pay so mcuh attention on my spirit here haha. I need to have a conversation with my holy guardian angel about all this.. Or then again maybe without knowing it has already answered my question through you here. You have to pay attention to every happening around you when your dealing with such entities as yourself haha..
hey, well, i like what you said about the cross the best. The past is as you say irredemiably, so long dead and gone. Still the memories are there to serve as a reminder of what we was and are not now. I guess for this present and it's nowness is for living the moment fullest and being awake and aware with the everlasting experience of joy her sweet pretty self. Just, at times the moment has to be put on pause to reflect on the past and fast forward to the future and determine of what could be.. determined on how you see yourself and maybe wish to attain to?
Hey, well your pretty spiritually attuned and adept at knowing what you do and i can't possibly add much more to change your heart or self. It's great as you say to live in the moment and remain forever in blissful Samhadi haha...
What am i talking about? I guess it's better just to allow the world to unfold before you and let it offer you it's own ecstacy and not get frustrated with time and tomorrow. Well, it's great to know you spiritually awake and this makes you feel or be so complacent. But as for me.. It's past, present, future, up and down all the time and there is no rest for when your as wicked as i can be lol It's the spirit of revenge that operates within and i'll hang on to this fire flying bird forever and be having a nice time lol Just messing.. I really admire you for sharing with me all this hmm Love for life and hope it gives you a great sense of well-being. I'm really delighted to have read what you have said and wish i could have said the same back to you before.. Just the unknowing part was tricksy intrinsic to mention all lol
Hey, much love and light to you and your king for divine revelations. And thanks to me for sending out the question to my HGA..

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AShleyBell In reply to Indra-Gora [2011-12-09 02:08:24 +0000 UTC]

Having access to that formless realm is truly liberating. It frees you from bondage to form and identification with form. It is life in its undifferentiated state prior to its fragmentation into multiplicity. We may call it the Unmanifested, the invisible Source of all things, the Being within all beings. It is a realm of deep stillness and peace, but also of joy and intense aliveness. Whenever you are present, you become "transparent" to some extent to the light, the pure consciousness that emanates from this Source. You also realize that the light is not separate from who you are but constitutes your very essence.

Identification with your mind creates an opaque screen of concepts, labels, images, words, judgments, and definitions that blocks all true relationship. It comes between you and yourself, between you and your fellow man and woman, between you and nature, between you and God. It is this screen of thought that creates the illusion of separateness, the illusion that there is you and a totally separate "other." You then forget the essential fact that, underneath the level of physical appearances and separate forms, you are one with all that is.

Being is not only beyond but also deep within every form as its innermost invisible and indestructible essence. This means that it is accessible to you now as your own deepest self, your true nature. But don't seek to grasp it with your mind. Don't try to understand it. You can know it only when the mind is still. When you are present, when your attention is fully and intensely in the Now, Being can be felt, but it can never be understood mentally. To regain awareness of Being and to abide in that state of "feeling-realization" is enlightenment. Be present as the watcher of your mind -- of your thoughts and emotions as well as your reactions in various situations. Be at least as interested in your reactions as in the situation or person that causes you to react. Notice also how often your attention is in the past or future. Don't judge or analyze what you observe. Watch the thought, feel the emotion, observe the reaction. Don't make a personal problem out of them. You will then feel something more powerful than any of those things that you observe: the still, observing presence itself behind the content of your mind, the silent watcher.

You are not just a meaningless fragment in an alien universe, briefly suspended between life and death, allowed a few short-lived pleasures followed by pain and ultimate annihilation. Underneath your outer form, you are connected with something so vast, so immeasurable and sacred, that it cannot be spoken of - yet I am speaking of it now. I am speaking of it now not to give you something to believe in but to show you how you can know it for yourself.

The word enlightenment conjures up the idea of some superhuman accomplishment, and the ego likes to keep it that way, but it is simply your natural state of felt oneness with Being. It is a state of connectedness with something immeasurable and indestructible, something that, almost paradoxically, is essentially you and yet is much greater than you. It is finding your true nature beyond name and form.

The word enlightenment conjures up the idea of some superhuman accomplishment, and the ego likes to keep it that way, but it is simply your natural state of felt oneness with Being. It is a state of connectedness with something immeasurable and indestructible, something that, almost paradoxically, is essentially you and yet is much greater than you. It is finding your true nature beyond name and form.
Beyond the beauty of external forms, there is more here: something that cannot be named, something ineffable, some deep, inner, holy essence. Whenever and wherever there is beauty, this inner essence shines through somehow. It only reveals itself to you when you are present.

Many expressions that are in common usage, and sometimes the structure of language itself, reveal the fact that people don't know who they are. You say: "He lost his life" or "my life," as if life were something that you can possess or lose. The truth is: you don't have a life, you are life. The One Life, the one consciousness that pervades the entire universe and takes temporary form to experience itself as a stone or blade of grass, as an animal, a person, a star or a galaxy.

Can you sense deep within that you already know that? Can you sense that you already are That?

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Indra-Gora In reply to AShleyBell [2011-12-07 13:29:16 +0000 UTC]

thanks haha

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AShleyBell In reply to Indra-Gora [2011-12-07 17:30:43 +0000 UTC]

Love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Indra-Gora In reply to LesleyCristina [2011-10-24 13:58:18 +0000 UTC]

Thanks Lesley! This sounds very good! ^^

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LesleyCristina In reply to Indra-Gora [2011-10-24 14:09:01 +0000 UTC]

You're very welcome : )

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Indra-Gora In reply to wtrw [2011-10-07 09:19:15 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much for birthday wish!!! Hope you are excellent!!! have a great day

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Indra-Gora In reply to BeKarloff [2011-09-12 00:17:10 +0000 UTC]

Welcome you are! ^^

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Indra-Gora In reply to ramworship [2011-07-09 19:56:44 +0000 UTC]

woooooooooot! hey it's great!!!

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Indra-Gora In reply to wingsofdragons [2011-06-24 08:39:07 +0000 UTC]

Hello back at you!!!

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wingsofdragons In reply to Indra-Gora [2011-06-24 10:15:17 +0000 UTC]

Hey hey nice to see you............
have a great day i'm off to work.......

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