Glitch-Facade In reply to wiredgear [2006-06-01 04:30:59 +0000 UTC]

Pleasure is all mine, you’re work is excellent; your take on Science fiction is just great, that’s what I like about you the most.

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Glitch-Facade In reply to nolla [2006-01-19 05:18:21 +0000 UTC]

Whatever, thats bullshit and you know it. If I was interested in thanks do you think I would say any of that stuff. I'm a selfish person, I get someting out of telling people my opinion. It really has nothing to do with you. Forgive me if this response seems rude, I am practicing honesty at the moment.

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nolla In reply to Glitch-Facade [2006-01-19 09:03:53 +0000 UTC]

Anyhow, i liked the conversation... For me it is rude to not say anything Ciao.

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Glitch-Facade In reply to nolla [2006-01-20 04:36:02 +0000 UTC]

I like you; you can confidently speak your mind, and I like that.
And hey! The conversation can go on if you like? I think we may have a few things in common. Plus like you said, I am a “new B” here and well…
I have yet to make a real connection with someone on this site.
We don’t need to discuss major life things; we could simply talk about whatever.

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nolla In reply to Glitch-Facade [2006-01-20 17:42:33 +0000 UTC]

Everytime i do that kinda discussion stuff with someone online it sorta vanishes somewhere. Im on/off person with the net. Sometimes im lots of time online, sometimes i disappear. Usually i reappear to devArt, anyhow. It has some connection to my life, as i want to publish some stuff... So it never hurts to try.

Yeah, we have something in common. I cant figure out what it is, though. Self-analyzing?

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Glitch-Facade In reply to nolla [2006-01-20 21:42:09 +0000 UTC]

I understand, you aren’t always online or available for periods of time. That’s fine; I’m similar, its not like I'm clinging to DA eithor, I mean, I don't even have anything going at the moment. Although lately I have been on more than I ever have before. It’s just nice to talk to different people every now and again. We could merely drop each other a line or two from time to time. Why the hell not?

I definitely analyze myself a lot too. Maybe what we have is common is that we booth think too much, not necessarily study or do research as much as we ponder and replay things and events over and over in our heads. Does that sound like you?

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nolla In reply to Glitch-Facade [2006-01-20 23:32:24 +0000 UTC]

Indeed it does. I have a sleeping problem for that. It goes away when i have a feeling ive developed to something more or handled a situation well. I would actually very much wanna have faith in destiny because of this. You dont need to think when there's no way you could have changed nothing. Sadly, i believe i make my own destiny. So even if something was screwed up and i think how could i be so stupid, there is still a chance to save my destiny. I can analyze all the choises and my motives to take the choise i did. Then i can find the reason for the mistake and learn from it. Hopefully never do it again.

I think i know what the thing is. We have gotten used to have black/white, right/wrong world. The school world. It took me some time to learn see the grey. Still working on the colors

Another thing that you and me are the same... analyzing others. But thats just a by-product. Strangely it causes both judgement and understanding, doesnt it?

Just couple of thoughts, tell me if im wrong.

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Glitch-Facade In reply to nolla [2006-01-21 05:53:08 +0000 UTC]

I will admit I often see things in black/white, right/wrong full/empty and all or nothing.
I have always had this feeling as if I am walking a thin line between the insecurity of everyday life on one side, and the temptation of a complete withdrawal from the world on the other. I am constantly debating between extremes.
I am also fixated on the paths I could take in life, like the Destiny thing.
I do analyze others a lot as well, that is why I jumped at the opportunity to analyze you, you were practically begging for it on the forum. Witch is cool; I like to be analyzed when I can hear the analysis openly, Like a critique. Might you have something to say based on what you know about me so far? A straightforward answer would help me out a lot.
Its just so hard to know what is what with self, a far removed set of eyes can see things that a close up set of eyes can not. I can see how I look close up; I just don’t know how I appear from a distance. I’m guessing you can probably tell what kind of person I am based on this conversation. Read into it a little more for me though would you; tell me how I sound because I don’t quite know anymore.
I’m open ended, critique me if you want.

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nolla In reply to Glitch-Facade [2006-01-21 11:21:08 +0000 UTC]

The interesting thing in you is that you just go right down to analyzing me with no hesitation... You knew you are right, but is it only luck that i was receptive? How could you know that what you were telling me is already introduced for my mind? If you had done the same thing for someone else, he could have blocked the message from his mind and get mad who knows... Well, you probly wouldnt care. Anyway, it would be kinda pointless shouting people whats on their mind if no one will listen.

Its easy to say that there's a void in my life. There's so few who dont have. But very few are ready to accept to hear that from a stranger. Fear is also quite easy to guess. There's only two motivations in the world. Fear and desire. Still, normal people do not admit them, especially if you go right in their face asking it.

Its obvious you know psychology but im not sure if it is more in an empath way or more in a cosmopolitan-test-your-relationship kinda way. As you cant sence my tone online, it is interesting that youre analysing text that i have total control over. I could have thought one single reply for hours to distract possible analyser. Well, i havent. But it could be like that.. I cant really analyse no one if i dont see them. Or at least hear them. That makes me wanna think you have the more cold way of analysing others. On the other hand i dont think you base your answers to any books and stuff. Even if it is more like a game to you, you base your conclusions on real life situations and people. So that would mean that you are so good in it because you dont get yourself attached to the peoples problems but still maintain a good sence of all the emotions involved.

Well, all that stuff above isnt actually what you asked. How you seem from the distance... Yes, you seem extreme on your opinions. At times you seem changing your mood a lot. I dont know are you really changing the mood or is it just a way of expression that is based on your strong opinions. The thing is that every hint of a mood change is multiplied in the net. So people might find you hard to deal with. This doenst have to have nothing to do with real life. I think you must be idealistic. That is one reason you need to think about the choises a lot. I also think you value yourself really high in some way. You have seen enough to know you are better than the most. Because the most of us dont care to think. I think that if you are this way constantly, it makes it really hard for you to find people who are capable to cope with you. You have most likely taken advantage of several roles in your life. You are confident that the people that cant understand the real you will not ever see it, while the few who can see it clearly are worthy of seein the real you all the time.

I havent tried to analyse anyone online. Might be totally wrong. What do you think?

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Glitch-Facade In reply to nolla [2006-01-22 09:56:46 +0000 UTC]

I thought about what you had to say, and I thought you had a useful response to my request. Here is what I have to say about it.
I form an opinion about someone almost instantly, that’s natural, and I try to reframe from analyzing people in general, and like you said, it can be pointless, I agree with you there.
I don’t expect anyone to actually listen to me when it comes to defining a person’s characteristics or more. I don’t practice it like a psychologist, therapist, or healer. They revolve their lives around it; I do not, therefore my opinion is considered naïve or uneducated. I’m still so very unaware of so very much, I will admit that.
The statements I wrote about you were vague and generally common analytical assumptions that most mindful people could make. I agree, and I am aware that I am not an expert. Although I do make an effort to observe for myself as best as I can. What I said about you was an amateur’s opinion; I tried really hard to be accurate, and I am still trying just as hard. Also, for you to see my statements in an open-minded way, and not get defensive over them takes maturity I think. That is one reason why I liked you, because you understand that it takes more strength to expose your so-called flaws than it does to get offensive and reject an honest opinion.

You are right, I can’t sense your tone, pulse, vibration, or being over the net, I don’t care too either. All I need to do is be honest and receptive enough. I still get to exercise my opinion either way, and that’s all I really want to do here.
I did try to analyze you by means of text, it was all I had to work with, and I believe it was more than enough.
Ask for how I analyze people, I will use whatever information I can get, I just apply basic observation to the subject more than anything, and you are right in saying what I base my conclusions off of, a lot of it is personal experience.
I would say that your perception of me is accurate in a lot of ways, I agree with what you said about my being moody, feelings dominate my opinions, my statements are extreme feelings most of the time. I’m a sensitive person.
I also agree with what you said about my being idealistic, I am glad that you pointed that out, I just realized how idealistic I must be, I had not thought about that before. That’s really good to know, thanks.
The one thing I question is about the value I place on myself. Perhaps I do associate myself with some sort of hierarchy. I’m not really stuck up, I am uptight though, really uptight, I’m content, just not very relaxed. Hugh…. I would like to say that that side of me is a side affect of my uptight demeanor, but I know that there is more to it. Well… something to keep in mind I guess.
I think you did a great job analyzing me, thanks.
take care man

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nolla In reply to Glitch-Facade [2006-01-22 16:40:11 +0000 UTC]

Nice that it was mostly right. It was quite easy, though. I just assumed you're like me in many things. I dont have so strong emotions, thats all. And i never tell people (exept the really close friends) what i see in them. So if someone is giving me trouble, i can use my knowledge of them so that i have my way. It mostly doesnt work though. But i assume ill get better with it. And when i do try to use it, it is better they dont know that i can read them. That is why many people think im easy to handle. I just have decided theyre not worth the info.

What do you mean with you being uptight and not stuck up? I didnt mean valuing yourself was a bad thing. I thought you need to have a really strong trust in yourself if you can tell that stuff to people. I dont know, maybe i was thinking myself again. Except that it isnt totally true with me. Im kinda weird cause i value myself high but in the same time i keep the information to myself. To most people i seem supermodest. Still, to me it is always most important that i am not restricted or limited. I just dont care to brag about it. I dont see how that would help me in any way.

Hey, tell me one thing. Do you trust people you cant read? Because some people are so closed that i just cant see through their head. Just hate that, i can never tell what theyre doing next. Usually they are actually really simple in a way that they see things clearly in their opinion. Its kinda like if a normal open person is a painting or a poem, the closed people are like math formula. You give them the input and the reply is always the same. So it should be easy to define them, but i just find it hard. In fact i think that the thing i analyse is emotional response and these people have so structured mind that they never seem to have any emotions in their words. Except hate. Its always hate or nothing. But that doesnt get me far, thats just scraching the surface.

Oh, by the way, i dont think your opinions should be considered naive or amateur. Sure in a way they are as you have no education of the subject. On the other hand there are lots of shrinks that have their text books and no touch with real life. I wouldnt trust a robot to analyse myself.

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Glitch-Facade In reply to nolla [2006-01-23 03:31:20 +0000 UTC]

I consider reading people to be a quiet practice. It’s not something I do on a regular basis. I also believe that there is nothing wrong with trying to read people. It’s important to understand where people are coming from in order to coexist peacefully. I believe everyone has learned how to read people to some degree, it’s like a self defense mechanism, and everyone knows or learns how to recognize what a sad, happy, mad or threatening person looks like. Most children can tell a safe person from a dangerous person, and that kind of identification improves, as you get older. What do you think?
About how I value myself, I misinterpreted what you said. I thought you were identifying my ego, and I considered it anyway. More over I would say that I do trust myself enough to give an important opinion; I am confident in my stance, but only in some discussions. I’m actually a really shy person when it comes to giving my opinion, I don’t want to be misinterpreted.

You said that you put yourself up on a “high horse” and that you keep your information to yourself unless you care enough to expose what you think to certain individuals. I do the same thing, except I think worse of myself for doing that. I think it shows that I am manipulative, dishonest, and that I will take advantage of people. I also think that of you. I don’t like keeping really important things hidden. It’s so much easier to live when I have no secrets or untold opinions, but there are times when it is unsafe to give an opinion.

I think you and I are alike in that we wont tell people what we see in them or what we know about them if we think they won’t appreciate our slightly generous opinions or thoughts. The things we say when we care are interpreted as criticism rather than a caring observation. That is why I keep my mouth shut. Maybe you agree with some of this?

The people I can’t read are the people I trust the most. I can actually rely on them the most.

I appreciate what you said about my opinions, thank you.

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nolla In reply to Glitch-Facade [2006-01-26 09:12:00 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, i did think that it is manipulative and so on. But usually the people i keep things from are a lot more manipulative than i could ever be. I actually think about ethics and morals all the time. They dont. So i can give myself the right to be just a little manipulative. And on the other hand, what is bad in manipulating people? I mean, why should i not have influence on them? It isnt about influence or not, it is about bad or good influence. If i could manipulate all the bad people to be good, i definitely would.

I agree its liberating to not have secrets. I do want this but how bout if they cant handle it? People dont want to hear how they are. If i tell them, oh, its gonna be war.

I find it most interesting that you trust the people you cant read. I just cant. Well, i have met only something like three of them so... I dont know if theres some good folks among them. Im not saying that the ones ive met are bad. I just cant figure them out. They are just emotionless, i cant relate to them...

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Glitch-Facade In reply to nolla [2006-02-08 04:00:38 +0000 UTC]

Elapse.

Move,

Shift_


My friend, You need to take a leap of faith. I don't know or care what it is. Just take that first step, and the world will do the rest for you.

Ask for me, I need to as well.
Be aware. I don't expect you to understand this or the following. I just need to say it, and for some reason you need to know it. Yet, judge for yourself!~

A wave is comming ~

Not just any wave either. This one has not been around for a while. It is old. It's been a while since this happened. Things are going to get very interesting very quickly. It will arrive; there will be silence and stillness for a time. Then a renewal, and there will be violent transitions for many, and absolutely nothing for many more.

If ever you wanted to give it all away and entertain the idea of a more vivid life. I suggest you keep your eyes open. I'm talking about a breath of fresh air, an opportunity not accessible for a long time.

I am not going to say anymore. So don't even bring it up.
Only respond if you have some information of youre own. Maybe you have something I need to hear?
And like I said, Judge for yourself.

"When it all comes down, I'll be there"

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