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telekonomo's BS #19Amazing.
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On a side note, I find this interesting.
".... she's not your character, and you therefor have no right to "change her" ... I designed he the way I did for a reason, it's HER... who she is." -*SaoirseRanekaera This was said in response to ~telekonomo changing some aspects of *SaoirseRanekaera 's character.
I think the same can be applied to Zim. You know, for what you all do to him sometimes. Zim (and all the other Invader Zim characters belong to their respected owner(s) and changing them is not your right. Putting him in romantic relationships and all that other stuff you do. I hope that maybe this lets at least some of you feel a bit of what the owners of Zim feel when they see your "fanart".
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I used a tablet and Photoshop.
I used the brush tool and didn't bother with the pen tool this time.
I also used the gradient and smudge tools for the background.
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what kind of tablet do you have and do you know if the kindle can do what your's does, also can you tell me how to get what your's has? thx
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It is a Wacom Bamboo.
Nah. I don't know if the Kindle can. I'm unfamiliar with that.
It's just. The tablet is used for being able to draw like you would with a pan, but on the computer. Instead of having to use the mouse. Makes it feel more like your're drawing, more convenient. Programs like Photoshop help to create smooth lines and add effects, other than the pixel by pixel way of MS Paint. So.
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking?
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thx for telling me but since then I sold meh kindle for a bamboo pen tablet. BTW my journal has a link to meh new account.
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O.O Nice drawing. I wouldn't be expecting him to look like that even IF he was the girliest Irken ever, Still, amazing drawing 
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Heh, thanks.
Though, the point was that he would never look this way.
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I know. It's just an odd thing to imagine. REALLY odd. Ha ha.
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Dunno about the eyelashes, but the eyeball gloss is amazing
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I love this pic to death xD
I avoid relationships with Zim, I admit to torturing him though. I don't picture him falling in love with anyone, I really don't, and if it is it's a plot, (somewhat) like with Tak.
I also agree with all the groups in your signature~
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Oh, thank you so much.
Yes. I don't think it's possible for Zim to ever fall in love. He's too into himself.
Would you like to join any of them?
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I was thinking about it...I might as well join all of them xD;
I do get a little annoyed with Zim couples though. I fave some for cute concepts, but in cold reality...I don't think it's possible.
And I really don't see how Zim and Dib would suddenly fall for each other...
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Yes.
Well, welcome to the clubs.
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I remember seeing that XD it was funny! If I had entered blood sports and she done that to my character I would've just laughed so hard at her
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I feel sorry for Zim, because he has eyelashes ._.
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...I'm going to comment in a bit of just a curious way. If I offend you at all, PLEASE tell me, I don't want to come off as a bitch:
Yes, changing a character is bad, it's bad to the creator and all. But *any* drawing of a character can be considered bad under that defination. I mean, those pairings(Even ZaGr, even if I do hate it)aren't meant to be BAD and HURTFUL to the creator, but more to FUN then anything else. I mean, yes, I seem hypocritical, and I hate the pairing, yes, but I don't consider those who like it insulting the creator, more...twisting it just a little.
I mean...I get your beef of it being a bit too overdone, but I hate ZaGr in a laughing sort of way...I laugh at it, but I don't feel repulsed unless it's making fun of Zim or if they chop up the characters so badly you can't see them through all the crap in it. I mean, it's the same way with ZaDr: I like it, but...God, the fluff IS starting to annoy me. I like it in a really just obsessive, evil, one-of-them-is-going-to-snap-one-day-in-some-way-and-feel-empty-once-they-kill-the-other kinda way, and I try to stay as close to In Character as I can, even if I fail at it.
As for the actual picture...pfffft. She's a dumbass for saying stuff like that. Seriously. But man, the picture is really funny
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Well, yes. You can't really do any fanart without changing some aspect of it. It's quite hard to get really close. I understand what you mean. I don't think the people mean to draw or write these things as an insult for the creator. Of course not. I just don't think they realize that it is quite disrespectful to take something that someone else made and change it into something completely different that has no logic behind it. Eh.
Right, they do all intend it for fun. Many things have been done with good intentions, though, they were completely unaware of what was happening as a result of their actions.
Meh.... Some people think it's fun to beat the crap out of other people or belittle them continuously, but does that mean they should still do it?
I like that their intentions are good and that they're not doing it to just be jerks, but they must be aware of what they're really doing. Heck, to make another analogy, people went to Africa to try to change the people, make them "civilized," but they failed to realize that they already were civilized and ended up just raping their culture.
Er. Their intentions are to have fun. Their intentions are not to pay tribute to the creator in any way, which is what fanart is for.
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Well, true, but I think art is about expression, whether it be fan or not. I mean, your making it seem like it's the worst thing on here when there is a lot of other stuff wrong. I mean, it's not really disrespectful, really. At least, from a novelist point of view, someone who has had fan art and stories of her own creations. I mean, several artist and authors have come out and said 'I don't care if you want to make my characters gay, go for it', some of them being various Japanese artists and JK Rowling.
I just don't get your examples. You make it seem as if doing fan pairings makes you an incompetent ass. Or just a jerk. Or something to those lines.
...BUT! I do understand what you mean by all of it. Some pairings don't make sense, yes, but just because of that, your not 'disrespecting the creator'...most of the time(Sometimes, people are, but only if there doing it to make fun of the series, or doing it just because it's hot, and I generally have to have proof for me to like pairings, really). Your interpreting it differently.
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I don't mean to make it the most horrible thing. OF COURSE NOT. And I know some people are fine with it. I don't care. That was them giving permission for you to do whatever you wanted. The creator's of Invader Zim, as far as I know, have not.
And yes, Art is a way of expressing. FANart is a way of expressing your admiration as a fan for something. Would be nice if that something was actually what it was.
Heh heh heh... Ha ha. Ah... No. They have good intentions, they're just blind. That's what I'm saying. Giving someone a piece of cake for their birthday without knowing there's poison in it. Something like that.
Uh-huh.... Okay.... Proof to me would be them actually showing their affection for each other in one form or another. Whether they admit it to themselves, each other, or make it be known to the audience that their actions mean something more than just that.
By the way, I'd suggest to not use the word "you" so much when you're debating with someone. It makes them think that you're attacking them personally and not just the idea.
God damn it, I'm tired...
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Good point, the creators of ZIM have not, but then again, they don't really care for ZIM much at all any more. I don't think they really care what people do. But I understand Ann Rice fan fiction being frowned upon, she even dislikes fan art of her stuff.
...how so? I mean, the cake analogy, I'm not sure how it clicks together. Sorry. But I can see them being blind. Though I guess I'm blind too.
Well, depends on what your looking for, when it comes to fandom. I can show plenty of people reasons depending on which pairing I like. I mean, not including crack for the lawls, though I don't ACTUALLY support those. Like how I consider ZaGr crack.
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to attack you, I just...don't really get it. Sorry, I've had to spend all week debating with people who absolutely hate non-con anything, so I've been looking for someone to debate with that hasn't already deemed me a mindless twit who hates gays because she pairs non-gay males together even though I have a girl friend. That, and I'm not in the best of moods, though I was when I wrote that comment, sorry.
I'm sorry. Can't sleep?
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Mm.
I mean that their intentions are good. They think they're not doing anything wrong. It's not their fault completely. They're not evil people. They just aren't aware.
Eh.... When you start actually having to try to find the relationship in there, it becomes no longer proof and just a fantasy. When you believe that it is indeed proof when it is only a fantasy, it becomes a delusion.
Ah, I understand. It does get tiring when people absolutely refuse to accept non-canon things or change their point of view in any way what-so-ever. Uh.
Lately I've been trying to connect what I think of the Invader Zim universe with what most other people think, in a more logical way. It would still be inconsistent to my views, but would be not total crack.
Um. Just exhausted from recent events. Can't seem to think as clearly anymore, so what I say to you might not be the best of me.
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Though I don't agree with any of that, I really don't feel like responding to it. I mean, the way the statement is written is portraying the people as delusional and not exactly in touch. But I can get that, some of us are really.
It is. I've also been called a homophobic for slash people together. Um. Yeah. Right.
I can understand that. I'm staying away from IZ right now, though, really.
Ahh. I understand. It's okay.
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Um. Okay. I'm not saying being delusional is completely bad. We all have delusions. Some more than others. Some worse than others. Some have no control over stopping them. Most still do.
What?
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Good point, delusions are nice.
...what? About what?
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Delusions can be a false benefit, yes.
I didn't understand the second part of your reply.
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Yeah, well, it's a release, is it not?
Oh, well, sorry. Most of my messages are going to be iffy right now, I took medicine.
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That it is. Shouldn't the art itself be enough though, and not the delusion?
Ah, I see.
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To an extent, yeah. But fan fiction is a good start, from fan fiction I was able to earn the abilty to write my own stuff. BUT no one should stay in fan fiction only, it'll start getting to you.
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Yeah. You'd be worthless if the only thing you did was fanfics.
Didn't say that doing fanfics at all was bad. Said that giving in to a delusion instead of the art itself to relieve yourself... I don't get it.
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Exactly.
Because it realeses the delusion into the art and story, therefore the person no longer thinks about it. I write about horror because of my demented imagination. Once I write it down, I'm happy and don't think about it nearly as much. It helps realese something, even pairings. Just expresses yourself, from my stand point.
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I mean... What I'm saying is, if someone needs a release from what is happening in their lives, why not just do art instead of expressing a delusion through the art? Why need the delusion at all if the relief is given through the art itself?
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Because that delusion is art. It's expression. I know it doesn't seem like it because it is pretty ridulus sometimes, I know, but people put time in these things for a reason.
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There's a lot of things people put time into without much reason.
But aside from that.... I don't think we have the same understanding of a delusion. I may be referring to something else.
Art is to express what you think and feel. The delusion is what you think that isn't true. You say that the delusion is the way to escape. If you had Art to escape, you wouldn't need the delusion also. So, you wouldn't have to express it through your art. To express a delusion through art would be to express and escape with another escape. Er....
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...I don't nessicarly think that's true at all, depending on the person. I mean, I don't think whatsoever that any of my pairings will actually happen. And neither do most people who write non-con pairings, honestly. Your only truly delsional if you think it'll happen.
Think of it this way:
In this world, we'll never have dragons, but we still choose to write about dragons and worlds with dragons and all because it is fantsy and we like fantsy. Non-Con pairings are fantsy, in this sense, do you not agree.
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Yes, I do agree with that. I'm talking of people that actually believe are the ones that have the delusion. I think I've said that when I started speaking of delusions.
As for the other people, I still don't understand why they do what they do if what they do has a negative effect.
It reminds me of someone spreading a lie about someone, even though they don't believe it themselves, just to entertain themselves. Other people may enjoy this as well, but pay no attention to what it does to the person. Maybe not to that extreme, but that is an example.
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Ahh. Well, that makes sense.
...but it doesn't have a negitive affect. I mean, yeah, they get flammed for it--a lot--but people also get flammed for a lot of things. But do you mean that it's wrong? I just don't get that, I'm sorry. I don't think it's that wrong. But that's biased on my part, isn't it? It could be. I dunno.
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I don't mean the flammers. How the creators feel.
And it's not always negative, no.
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Oh, that makes sense. But sometimes, in creator's cases, they're making enough money not to really care, though not often. You only see that with anime, really.
Not always.
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"Just a BRILLIANT disguise!"
I think it helps keep perspective to remember that Jhonen very much enjoys making people's bellies sick anyway
(Though actually, the characters don't belong to him at all. He could even get sued for trying to sell a new Zim comic.)
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