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AlsoSprachOdin In reply to ??? [2011-08-24 16:19:57 +0000 UTC]
Serious business...
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gizbear In reply to ??? [2011-08-24 04:34:39 +0000 UTC]
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Winter-Phantom In reply to gizbear [2011-08-24 12:45:52 +0000 UTC]
Ok, well the poster is just aimed at people who bash the movie.
The movie was actually quite good (in my opinion, it was good just as a movie ether way), but Paramount thinks that Avatar is just for little kids; like Spongebob or Tellitubbies, so they forced M. Night to cut a lot of stuff out; like over 25 minutes through out the whole movie just to lower the cost for a 3D version of the movie (and watching some Star Wars movies with times; it's amazing how much can happen in just one minute, let alone 25 minutes).
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Winter-Phantom In reply to gizbear [2011-08-24 21:17:08 +0000 UTC]
No, M. Night didn't hold anyone back; Paramount held him back. It's been said over and over again that M. Night for force to take the fall for them. So Paramount made the mistakes. From what I saw, M. Night really did a lot of hard work to make the movie as great as it was, truly a great choice to direct the movie.
This is a world of artists vs business men, and sadly business men ruin a lot of things; big example right now; the assholes at Sony who rebooted Spider-Man; after all the hard work Sam Raimi did, they think the series can just be replaced when it can't.
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Winter-Phantom In reply to gizbear [2011-08-24 23:38:22 +0000 UTC]
Well I have to disagree, Sam Raimi is very artistic, and definitely compared to all the crap that Mark Webb have been doing to the shitty Reboot; most of all the costume, along with poor choice of main-villain and much of the story differs from the comics, as where Sam Raimi stayed really true too the comics; not just the suit, but using the best villains and best characters.
And I see from The Last Airbender M. Night did a lot of research as much of the movie fit the story line of the cartoon, and from the trailers I see M. Night wanted to really please the fans. The problem is when studios like Sony and Paramount butt in, that ruins the artistic ideas of truly great visionaries like M. Night and Raimi.
My favorite director; George Lucas also had a bit of the same problems with the CEOs pushing the deadlines for Star Wars; but lucky it was so great, that Lucas became rich, able to go back and fix the movies the way he wanted them, and by the time he started the Prequel Trilogy, he was able to be in total control of production.
If M. Night and Raimi had total control, The Last Airbender could be longer with more detail not cut out, and we'd be looking forward to Spider-Man 4 now.
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Winter-Phantom In reply to gizbear [2011-08-25 02:18:57 +0000 UTC]
Well Sony for forcing too much with Sam Raimi, everyone says it. Raimi is the reason Spider-Man 3 was a good as it was; not being a total failure. M. Night had control over the directing us The Last Airbender, and I saw lots of that great acting in the trailer (and by my point of view, through out the movie too), but much of the great acting was taken out when Paramount forced the idea of a 3D movie. I saw lots of pictures of the great acting that was taken out (by a youtube video another lover of the film made, showing lots of research about what happen that I haven't found anywhere else).
I haven't seen Howard the Duck and haven't heard of that being Lucas' film, but all the Star Wars movies are equally great, and the prequel trilogy were like among my best movie theater memories; along with seeing The Last Airbender, seeing all the Spider-Man movies and seeing all the Harry Potter movies. While not consider as great as the live actions, I was just blown away by the 2008 movie Star Wars: The Clone Wars, like greatest CGI movie ever, far better than Finding Nemo (didn't see that on the big screen). The Indiana Jones movies were all cool, and I really loved the last movie. There's a reason George Lucas is one of the film makers of our time along with Steven Spielberg, because all his films really made history, being loved by billions of fans all over the world, only a fool would question his greatness (twisted that last line from Snape's quote about Dumbledore).
As for Spider-Man, the 4th movie would have been better than a crappy reboot. Andrew Garfield looks nothing like Peter Parker, and while Tobey Maguire doesn't look like the comics' Peter he looked will close to what Peter Parker would look like in the real world, it's easy to see he can never be replaced.
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angelwingkitty In reply to ??? [2011-08-17 05:37:22 +0000 UTC]
I appreciate your desire to defend all that is Avatar, but I feel that lashing out at those who were honestly hurt and disappointed by the movie is also unfair. Personally, I tremendously disliked the movie and as a person who actually worked on the series, I can vouch the same for a few others who were a part of the television show.
Now that is not to say that I am a basher, and I respect your effort in differentiating between the two. However, I think even bashers are fans. People react differently to situations, some are over the top, but that makes them no less fans. When a person is very disappointed by something they had high hopes for or already love tremendously they can become very angry and will lash out.
You most certainly can voice your frustration with such people, but you can not dictate whether or not that makes them true fans.
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Alluris In reply to ??? [2011-08-16 21:20:07 +0000 UTC]
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Winter-Phantom In reply to Alluris [2011-08-16 22:00:27 +0000 UTC]
True Avatar fans don't bash other Avatar fans for trying to show their love for Avatar, and at lease give it a chance.
M. Night is an Avatar fan, so I don't see how people dare call themselves Avatar fans, after they bashed him and his work towards Avatar.
It's like "Ok, so to you, it has to be 100% prefect or else it's a crime for trying?"
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Winter-Phantom In reply to Alluris [2011-08-17 00:55:47 +0000 UTC]
Well I noticed the music through out the whole movie, and I found many cartoon-connections and great acting through out the film.
M. Night has watched the whole series over and over again. He didn't mess up to any degree. What's sad is that many Avatar fans are so narrow minded that they can't see things when introduced into a new light.
M. Night put a lot of effort, only an idiot can't see that . . . Hmm seeing how smart people are considered freaks by the general public, this movies' fan reviews is a great example that the general public isn't smart . . .
How about taking a shit, calling it "Alluris's artwork" and you'll be sorry when no one likes it. The Last Airbender isn't shit, but the Golden Egg of the 2010 Blockbusters . . .
This poster is meant to insult the morons who bash the movie; there's lots of people who don't like the movie WHO DON'T bash it.
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kenpo4ever In reply to TearyRose [2011-08-17 23:59:58 +0000 UTC]
I second that argument.
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TheGreatPantheism-07 In reply to TearyRose [2011-08-17 01:40:25 +0000 UTC]
Watch this YouTube video (which explains why the haters are wrong) and do as it says >>> [link] <<< Be sure to click the Thumbs-Up button to increase the video's relevance.
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Lora-Elric In reply to ??? [2011-08-16 18:39:33 +0000 UTC]
I don't like the movie, but it's not the worst thing I've seen, either.
Anyways, you are definitely coming off as having a very elitist attitude. True Avatar fans? Are you kidding me? There are no such things. People like what they like, and dislike what they dislike. There's no such thing as being a better fan because you know more about it/like something/etc. There are people who like things--fans--and people who don't like things.
Not to mention that the movie is a SEPARATE thing, bashing the movie does not reflect upon how you feel about the series itself.
The fact that you think people who bash the movie and M. Night are treating him like war criminals is disgusting as well. It's insulting to those who have gone through horrid situations in wars and to those who have lost families because of war crimes. Mentioning Bush doesn't help your case either. Keep your politics out of this.
Now, I love some of M. Night's movies, but in my opinion, TLA was atrocious. Again, not the worst movie I've seen, but still horrible. Not everyone is going to have the same opinions as you, but that doesn't make it okay to insult others for differences in opinion.
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TheGreatPantheism-07 In reply to Lora-Elric [2011-08-17 01:40:27 +0000 UTC]
Watch this YouTube video (which explains why the haters are wrong) and do as it says >>> [link] <<< Be sure to click the Thumbs-Up button to increase the video's relevance.
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Winter-Phantom In reply to Lora-Elric [2011-08-16 20:37:15 +0000 UTC]
Well people have called him Shamildong, or something, that's name calling, like how we call Bush names for his war crimes. so that wasn't me thinking, people who "are not true Avatar fans" have been bashing M. Night in the same ways we bash the Texas idiot who started a war for oil.
Save me the "that doesn't make it okay to insult others for differences in opinion" crap, as that's totally hypocritical for you to say. So you're saying it's ok for others to leave bashing comments on my poster, but not ok for me to post a poster about how I feel? If it weren't for those people, this poster would have never been made.
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Lora-Elric In reply to Winter-Phantom [2011-08-16 21:38:25 +0000 UTC]
People calling Bush names is irrelevant, and is still insulting that you'd compare these two matters. Personally I find it highly disrespectful and childish to call a former president names.
When did I ever say I agreed with people bashing? I didn't. Don't twist my words into something else. I commented on how you came off as having a rather elitist attitude. (a point which you ignored entirely)
However, it's hypocritical of you to say it's wrong to bash a movie then go and bash other people who dislike it. If you find it acceptable to bash a former president, then it should not be a problem to do the same for something as small as a movie.
On a side note, it doesn't really matter if without those people, you wouldn't have "made" the poster. They're not even allowed on dA on the first place as they contain copyrighted content.
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Winter-Phantom In reply to Lora-Elric [2011-08-16 21:52:38 +0000 UTC]
Well Bush was an idiot, so it's not really name calling, more like truth telling. And there's lots who bash the current president with lies.
Ok, well lots of others are hypocrites like that, so it's easy to confuse that with people who say "it's not right for you to force your opinion", as that's what a lot of movie haters do; try something like "it's not right for anyone to force their opinions".
I'm not the one being hypocritical; as I'm not bashing the people who don't like the movie; I'm just posting out that the ones who bash the movies don't act like true Avatar fans (not liking isn't the same as bashing).
Lots of people use posters like this, and how as could I make a point without a picture like this?
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Lora-Elric In reply to Winter-Phantom [2011-08-16 22:29:04 +0000 UTC]
It's still just as much of an insult.
Assuming that everyone who says similar things are hypocrites is generally a bad way to go about things. You really should have at least some amount of faith in the people you talk to.
When you say that a group of people aren't true fans, it's definitely an insult. Bashing a movie and a director is an insult as well. You're both doing the same thing as far as that goes.
Also, just because many people do it does not mean it's okay. It's still against the rules. And as for how you could go about doing that, you could draw the picture. That's why this is an art website, it's for drawings, paintings, photography, literature, etc. You make your own content.
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Lora-Elric In reply to mindscaper [2011-08-16 22:29:20 +0000 UTC]
I have no idea who you are, but thanks, lol!
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mindscaper In reply to Lora-Elric [2011-08-16 22:45:21 +0000 UTC]
I dont know you either, but what you wrote made me happy haha
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TheGreatPantheism-07 In reply to mindscaper [2011-08-17 02:27:10 +0000 UTC]
Watch this YouTube video (which explains why the haters are wrong) and do as it says >> [link] << Be sure to click the Thumbs-Up button to increase the video's relevance.
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mindscaper In reply to TheGreatPantheism-07 [2011-08-17 06:45:07 +0000 UTC]
Or you can just get over that a lot of fans thought the movie sucked. I expected quality comparable to the show and I didn't get it. Not quite sure how some people did, but I'm happy for you.
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TheGreatPantheism-07 In reply to mindscaper [2011-08-19 16:17:43 +0000 UTC]
And you can just get over can get over that a lot of fans knew the movie was awesome. We already know the quality was comparable to the show, and that was before the studio tampered with it. Go ahead and be happy for us, the movie was great.
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Lora-Elric In reply to mindscaper [2011-08-17 01:51:32 +0000 UTC]
Glad to hear it made someone happy, lol.
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exicuteTHIS In reply to ??? [2011-08-16 17:03:07 +0000 UTC]
READ: I am not attempting to be rude in any way, shape, or form. I'm just disagreeing and stating why, and trying to be as polite as possible without sugar-coating.
Not really, no. True fans love the series - their thoughts and opinions of the movie and its director have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not they're "true" fans of the show. Whether you love or hate or bash or praise TLA and Shyamalan means nothing.
I know you think one's treatment of other fans has to do with whether or not they're "true" fans. But, like I said, the sole thing that determines such is their their thoughts and opinions of the series.
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sk8trgrl [2011-08-16 17:02:52 +0000 UTC]
I liked the movie. But will not watch it twice.
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TheGreatPantheism-07 In reply to sk8trgrl [2011-08-17 01:40:33 +0000 UTC]
Watch this YouTube video (which explains why the haters are wrong) and do as it says >>> [link] <<< Be sure to click the Thumbs-Up button to increase the video's relevance.
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Vampress13 In reply to ??? [2011-08-16 16:42:35 +0000 UTC]
I agree. I'm absolutly SICK of people griping bout it. It gets annoying, and there was some stuff missing, but hey, the movie could only be so long. Yea it would have been nice if he put Suki in it, but it was great even without some of the episodes. Seriously guys, it's getting old. It was like, a year ago, give it a rest.
I personaly want a sequel to be made, who knows, he might have more funding this time and more time to complete the movie, so it might be better than the first!
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TheGreatPantheism-07 In reply to Vampress13 [2011-08-17 02:24:16 +0000 UTC]
Watch this YouTube video (which explains why the haters are wrong) and do as it says >> [link] << Be sure to click the Thumbs-Up button to increase the video's relevance.
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kenpo4ever In reply to ??? [2011-08-15 23:32:55 +0000 UTC]
It's amazing that people still bash this movie and hope a sequel won't get made. The true is that M. Night did a difficult task in putting all of the elements of Book 1 in less than a two hour movie. Now don't forget this is a NICK movie so Paramount doens't put too much money into it. However TLA movie had 150 mil budget which makes it the most expensive nick movie ever produce. Now it is clear that M. Night did in fact make a two hour movie so what happen to the rest of it? The answer was that the studio thought that since this is a nick movie and its consider a "kid's film". The studio executives wanted the movie to be 3D converted but as cheap as possible. That was a TOTALLY BIG MISTAKE from their part. So M. Night was for to cut film and take the blame in order to keep his contract with the studio to finish the trilogy. The fans need to get educated in what happen to the film, and as I always said if the studio treats the last airbender franchise with a boy scout mentalety then there is no hope. No matter how many directors you fire or hire. This is soooo sad.
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Winter-Phantom In reply to kenpo4ever [2011-08-16 03:05:58 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, glad that you know it's all about the studio wanting a 3D movie and cutting film for a cheaper cost that is too blame.
Not only is it the most expensive Nick movie but it's as of now the biggest money making Nick movie in history; at 320 Million dollars.
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RGzer0 In reply to ??? [2011-08-15 20:29:32 +0000 UTC]
The movie as it is is poorly done, questionably acted, and doesn't do the show justice. That said, it was what got me interested in the series, and I still enjoy it anyway.
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TheGreatPantheism-07 In reply to RGzer0 [2011-08-17 01:40:35 +0000 UTC]
Watch this YouTube video (which explains why the haters are wrong) and do as it says >>> [link] <<< Be sure to click the Thumbs-Up button to increase the video's relevance.
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Winter-Phantom In reply to RGzer0 [2011-08-15 20:40:26 +0000 UTC]
Well there you go, the movie got you interested in the series.
Many of my friends agree about how truthfully amazing the movie was and loved how we could feel the emotion in the actors acting.
It was amazing how much justice it did to some key points like the Blue Spirit and the Water Tribe battle, and we're so looking forward to seeing Toph in the next movie.
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kasaibou [2011-08-15 20:10:49 +0000 UTC]
Just like that, you can't please everyone. I agree.
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