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JUNE900310 [2012-07-17 08:58:44 +0000 UTC]
I dont know aht is this, but this is a amazing picture, the mood and color here is awesome!!!
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Lance66 [2012-05-27 22:17:59 +0000 UTC]
Very cool pic, good work.
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vmulligan In reply to Lance66 [2012-05-28 01:56:58 +0000 UTC]
Thanks!
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AstroBoy1 [2012-05-27 15:55:21 +0000 UTC]
Greetings,
Superb image.
Best regards,
Michael C. Turner
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M3rcaptan [2012-05-27 11:37:09 +0000 UTC]
why ligand?
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vmulligan In reply to M3rcaptan [2012-05-27 18:57:17 +0000 UTC]
In biochemistry, a ligand is a small molecule, atom, or ion bound by a biological macromolecule. The word comes from the Latin word ligare -- to tie up or to bind. When I saw the finished piece, the sphere looked tied up or bound to me...
(Incidentally, the word has a similar but slightly different meaning in organometallic chemistry.)
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M3rcaptan In reply to vmulligan [2012-05-27 20:04:09 +0000 UTC]
yeah, now I get it, I didn't know that! I had the organometallic one in my mind, you know the ligands in complexes. Thanks!
It's a bit strange for me thinking about atoms and molecules, you know often it's said that atoms (and subatomic particles) are not imaginable in the sense that you can't have a "whole picture" of them because every now and then they show behaviors (wave like behaviors...?)that contradict our common image of what atoms are. It's been bugging me since I was introduced to quantum mechanics. you know when we do theoretical chemistry, and biochemistry, we clearly do have a "picture" or imagination of atoms and molecules, we assign "shapes" to them, we use those shapes to predict their behavior and reactivities (which in a lot of cases turn out to be very accurate), and when we start to look closer, at least from what I've learned (which is very little considering that I haven't still finished my first year ) they start to become "unimaginable" and it always makes me go "Ah, come on!". I saw Feynman talking about atoms and he said something like "the little fuzzy ball picture of atoms is good enough, but it's not what they really are..." and I've been wondering... can we really have an accurate picture of them in our minds? You know I'm gonna be a chemist in the future and certainly I'll spend a lot of time studying models and theories describing atoms and molecules... and unless I don't know exactly how much we can imagine atoms, I'll always subconsciously think that the professors and books are like adults trying to make an inaccurate simplified version of a model to make a stupid kid(me) understand what they say!
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vmulligan In reply to M3rcaptan [2012-06-01 04:52:21 +0000 UTC]
Some mysticize the physics a bit too much. It isn't the small-scale particles that are mysterious; it's the large-scale phenomena that we encounter every day that are deceptively simple. There really is no such thing as a "particle" or a "wave": the macro-scale objects that we perceive as solid, discrete billiard balls with well-defined position and momentum, or the waves that we see on water that have properties like wavelength, velocity, and frequency, are really both emergent phenomena which only have these apparent properties to a very good approximation on the large scale. These things have properties (position, momentum, wavelength, frequency, velocity, etc.) that are similar to certain aspects of the fundamental building-blocks of reality, and we borrow from the vocabulary that we use to describe these large-scale objects in describing the small-scale fundamental objects.
The reality is that everything is "wavicles" that are neither particles nor waves, but which have features like the imaginary ideal objects that we call particles and other features like the imaginary ideal phenomena that we call waves. When thinking in terms of objects in space, it's most accurate to think of fundamental particles as probability distributions -- spread-out regions over which there exists some probability of experiencing an interaction with other objects. The electron cloud of a hydrogen atom in its lowest energy state, for example, is a spherically symmetrical distribution of probability density that is densest at the centre and falls off at the edges. As you push further and further inward, closer to the nucleus, you have an ever-growing probability of experiencing an interaction with an electron. There is no reality beyond the observable -- the interaction. The electron has no well-defined position; it's not a point-like particle with some probability of being somewhere, but rather a spread-out thing with some probability of engaging in an interaction at each point in space. The electron is the probability distribution. It is only our experience with objects that resemble what we call "particles" (billiard balls, marbles, etc.) that biases us to expect the electron to be particle-like, and to secretly possess a well-defined position and momentum. The particle-like nature of the macro-scale objects is the illusion, though: their probability distributions are have such precipitous falloffs that it seems to us that they have a well-defined place in space.
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M3rcaptan In reply to vmulligan [2012-06-01 07:28:30 +0000 UTC]
Wow, thanks. Just thanks. I had never heard such a good explanation. especially the part that you say "it's not a point-like particle with some probability of being somewhere, but rather a spread-out thing with some probability of engaging in an interaction at each point in space. The electron is the probability distribution." I had never thought of it that way! thank you very much!
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Dontburnit [2012-05-27 11:32:19 +0000 UTC]
looks like some sort of pathogen or something. Or a spider's egg.
Which geometry did you make in Max? the lines and sphere, and then add texture on top of like a basic sphere to create the hairball type effect?
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vmulligan In reply to Dontburnit [2012-05-27 18:58:53 +0000 UTC]
In 3ds max, I created a box and a geosphere, and then used the cobeweb script to make the lines to the sphere. The rest -- the fur on the sphere, the lighting, the atmospheric effect -- was created in Maya.
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vmulligan In reply to Dontburnit [2012-05-28 04:09:41 +0000 UTC]
I've only played with it a bit, but it seems pretty good. It seems like the author is actively developing it, too, which is nice.
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Dontburnit In reply to vmulligan [2012-05-28 17:25:27 +0000 UTC]
I just tried it and can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. I'm going to try again, but it gave me some headaches trying to figure it out yesterday.
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vmulligan In reply to Dontburnit [2012-05-28 23:43:31 +0000 UTC]
Hmm, that's funny. I found it pretty straightforward -- you run the script, select the pieces of geometry that you want to use to anchor the spider web, and then click generate... What was going wrong?
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Dontburnit In reply to vmulligan [2012-05-29 06:14:40 +0000 UTC]
yeah I do that and an error appears and says exception error or something.
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GizmoGremlin77 [2012-05-26 22:15:17 +0000 UTC]
I don't know why, But I feel like this is what an atom would look like up close.
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vmulligan In reply to GizmoGremlin77 [2012-05-31 04:33:07 +0000 UTC]
While that's a perfectly fair artist's image, it's not 100% scientifically accurate. The electrons don't have well-defined pointlike positions in the space around the nucleus until they engage in an interaction which defines their position (and even after such an interaction, the system rapidly reverts back to a sort of asymmetrically-wobbling cloud of probability density governed by the time-dependent SchrΓΆdinger equation). In the absence of external interactions, it really is most accurate to think of an electron in an atom as a (fairly static) cloud of probability density rather than as a particle zipping around.
Interestingly, but for the electrons in s-orbitals, the probability distribution of an electron about the nucleus isn't spherically symmetrical. Here's a chart showing cross-sections through the probability density for different electron orbitals: [link]
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FIYAS [2012-05-26 19:56:32 +0000 UTC]
Great attention to detail.
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vmulligan In reply to FIYAS [2012-05-26 21:31:43 +0000 UTC]
Thanks.
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FIYAS In reply to vmulligan [2012-06-02 19:26:38 +0000 UTC]
You are welcome.
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Smattila [2012-05-26 16:28:49 +0000 UTC]
Very cool!
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vmulligan In reply to Smattila [2012-05-26 21:31:49 +0000 UTC]
Thank you!
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doobdoobom [2012-05-26 11:09:06 +0000 UTC]
Breathtaking
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simonzes [2012-05-26 09:20:30 +0000 UTC]
Very evocative , could be micro , of macro , imagible on any scale
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vmulligan In reply to simonzes [2012-05-26 21:32:12 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! Yes, I like the ambiguity.
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LuceamLuceo [2012-05-26 09:04:40 +0000 UTC]
Very fascinating. With the tapes around it the sphere looks as if it is taking particles through it veins to become bigger and stronger. And with the lighting and the smoke, the sphere becomes more and more alive to me the longer I am watching it.
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Extazru [2012-05-26 06:34:26 +0000 UTC]
Beautiful render )
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vmulligan In reply to Extazru [2012-05-26 08:05:35 +0000 UTC]
Thanks!
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vmulligan In reply to SATTISH [2012-05-26 08:05:28 +0000 UTC]
I've played with it a little bit, but I need to learn it better. I find programming languages more intuitive than node-based programming, though, so getting into MEL scripting or Python scripting more might suit me better.
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Kyttee [2012-05-26 05:57:27 +0000 UTC]
This is so fascinating!
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vmulligan In reply to Kyttee [2012-05-26 08:05:41 +0000 UTC]
Thank you!
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SteelMalak [2012-05-26 03:33:29 +0000 UTC]
This is a very strange, surreal, and beautiful piece.
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