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Published: 2009-04-08 17:42:00 +0000 UTC; Views: 2963; Favourites: 142; Downloads: 54
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IF YOU ARE HERE TO FAVE THIS STAMP:I appreciate it. No, really, I do. And I'm not going to complain about it, because I'm glad so many people like it. But please, take a few moments to look at the rest of my gallery. I spent approximately 15 minutes on this stamp, and there are things here that I spent weeks on, and I would really appreciate comments and feedback on those works. No, I won't hate you if you ninja-fave this stamp without even looking at my main page.
I'll just eat this kitten.
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To be honest, I didn't get the stamp at first. I thought it was just a continuation of the initial phrase - "Critique not desired - PUSSY," as if the person not desiring the critique was calling the people wanting to critique "pussies." I'm aware of the perspective of people who look down on others for not wanting critiques, but I had to read the comments to make sure that this was indeed your intended sentiment. Maybe put "Critique not desired" in quotation marks? I dunno.
Anywho, I find I mostly jump to that conclusion as well. But there are situations in which they are not a pussy for asking to not critique.
One is discouraging critiques on commissions you did for people - you don't want your watchers accidentally insulting your commissioner by mentioning that they think the design is silly or something.
Another is if you are trying to draw something ENTIRELY new to you, and you are fully aware that it needs a lot of improvement. You are working on improving it, by practicing drawing it, and are simply showing your current progress. There'd be no POINT critiquing that. If I, in my artist's comments, acknowledged its lack of drawing know-how and that I needed to practice more, and then someone proceeded to critique it in-depth, I would assume the critiquer is a bit of a dunce.
And I'm afraid that I partly agree with the first fellow you argued with - if I wanted good solid critique, DA is not the place I would go. It says something when they create an entirely new feature called a Critique, and people STILL just use it to ass-kiss. There are exceptions, naturally, but not so many that I consider the DA community to be entirely trustworthy in that regard.
I have no doubt that this community was created to be a good solid art community home to serious artists, but in reality it isn't. The fact that there are so many people on here that discourage critiques, to the point that it has become commonplace, demonstrates this. The number of artists on here that are praised for their years-long stagnated art does as well.
Anywho, that's my 2ยข on the subject. I am not trying to change your opinion any more than your stamp will convert dozens of critique-discouragers into people who desire critiques. But you cannot expect to unleash your frank opinion on the world and not get a few others in return, albeit ones that are more than four words long to remove any misunderstandings from occurring.
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Thing is, the stamp isn't meant to be a blanket statement. I know that there are viable reasons for not wanting critique (the artwork in question is really old, the artist already knows what's wrong with it, for example), the stamp is only meant to reflect my immediate impression when I see the "critique not desired" option.
Nothing against you personally, but I'm going to be disabling comments on this stamp. I appreciate your input and your politeness, I just think people are taking this thing way too seriously.
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There is a diferance between being blunt and being rude. Being blunt is being straight forward- usually with some bit of tact. Being rude is also being straight forward but it's insensitive. A person doesn't become a coward or a pussy just because they don't want to hear you tell them everything their doing wrong.
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Yes, because I obviously run around leaving comments like "UR SUCH A PUSSY" on every deviation wherein the artist says they do not desire advanced critique. It's not like this stamp is satirical commentary on the impression I get (and judging from some responses, others' as well) when an artist indicates they don't want to hear about how they can improve. No, this is definitely a true-to-life account of how I interact with every artist who ever used the "critique not desired" button.
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Maybe you don't go around calling people pussys but that stamp pretty generic. You even said in a reply to someone else something like "why push the no crtique button if they aren't pussys or outright cowards?"
Besides you should learn to take it easy. Istead of being so sarcastic and defensive.
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"Take it easy"? You're the one getting your panties in a twist over a stamp that expresses one person's opinion which isn't all that offensive to begin with.
Sarcasm is just one of the many services I offer. But "defensive"? No, just tired of overly-sensitive nitwits having an aneurysm over someone expressing an opinion on a website dedicated to self-expression.
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Whatever dude. If throwing around insults is the only way you can express yourself than that speaks volumes about your short comings, not mine.
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"the only way [I] can express [myself]" Jesus fuck are you kidding me? That's quite the logic leap, madam. "Egad! This person has a gallery consisting of 70+ images, but in this one they used a slightly gritty word in order to make a point! Clearly they are only capable of expressing themselves through crude insults!" This particular logical fallacy is called an "inductive fallacy." Come back when you learn basic logic. Or get spell-check. Either one, really.
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Yes, not all of you're diviations are insulting, but the way you linguistically express yourself is. What would have been more considerate is to make a stamp that said 'why post art on a art site if you don't want concrit?' Also, basing one's inteligence on how acuratly they spell seems a bit illogical to me.
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The Bill of Rights called, it wants its freedom of speech back. I'm terribly sorry that the world doesn't revolve around you and your sensitivities. And if you're getting all butthurt over someone using the word "pussy"... Welcome to the Internet, you must be new.
"acuratly" --> Get out. Just... get out.
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You don't understand what I'm trying to say at all! The First Amendment was made so people could freely express their opinions, but not so people could be vulgar. There are laws agianst using language the way you do because it causes domestic desturbances. On the internet this doesn't matter I know! But in real life it does. I thought maybe I could get to understand, but all you care about is being rude and nitpicky. So I'm done talking to you. Have a nice day.
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I don't see why I should tone down my language in the sanctity of my own deviantART page just because it offends you or anybody else. I'm not making you look at it, I'm not targeting any specific person or group, I'm not doing anything wrong. As for you assuming that this particular stamp is exemplary of the way I behave in "real life" - I don't think I'll dignify it with a rebuttal.
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Aw man! I wish I had a subscription just so I could use this stamp!
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D'awww. I appreciate the comment nonetheless!
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I am so using this. Dam art pussys.
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DOOOO EEEEEEET
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i was wondering if common courtesy counts though?
i know some people don't want critics, cause they just don't. i just never like the idea that people are automatically considered non-artist (as from reading ur earlier comments) just because they are not ready for critic. and would you still critic someone that didn't want any? because then isn't that being rude? :/
lol sorry i just see so much debate on this... it seems a bit wrong to take it to such an extent.
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I think anyone who doesn't want critique indicates that they don't want to improve, and that's what disqualifies them from the title "artist." I can see some circumstances where critique not being desired would be viable, like if the work in question is really old, and the artist already knows what's wrong with it.
And no, I wouldn't offer critique to someone who said they didn't want it. If they don't want to grow as an artist, it's not my problem.
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i see where you're going with that.
so then what would u call people who just draws for fun?
i consider DA not a place to even get proper critic to begin with. in a way, i see DA as sort of like a 'myspace' for art. it's just there's more rules and such, but i don't see DA as a really serious place to even go to if you plan to be a 'real artist' and get better so to speak.
since there's a lot of other better art sites like CA and CGtalk if you want good critic. i always considered DA just a site to share art more then anything while the ability to comment is what makes people to make friends and just give some boost of esteem or w/e.
i guess what i am trying to say that people seeming to get a bit serious with critic, DA isn't really big deal for that.
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I try to give the admins a bit more credit than that. DA has artists on it who're just as good as the people you'd find on ConceptArt, DA is just more welcoming to amateurs.
And even if drawing is something you only do for fun (like me), why shouldn't you want to improve? Whether it's knitting, baking, model-airplane-making or anything else, what viable reason could you possibly have for blocking out tips for improvement other than narcissism or outright cowardice?
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ahh, well it seems like you're saying all people who don't want critics are all cowards/want asskissing and i'm not sure if that really is what you meant, but to have it so generalized like that is a bit unfair..? it's like some sort of judgment to the artist? 
and yes i find DA to be much nicer for that, and i also find many of the artists here to be laidback thus why i don't see the reason to really point fingers and call critic haters to be cowards D: well not necessarily pointing fingers, but to consider them to -not- be an artist >_<
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Yeah. I guess that's what I'm saying. Sorry, I don't sugar-coat my opinions.
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that's okay. XD better blunt then sugarcoating/sarcastic all the time. haha
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I'm glad someone out there doesn't confuse bluntness with rudeness. XD
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XDD well blunt stuff can be taken rudely/meanly, but at least there's enough supporting reason for it in this case hehe. XD
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DAMN STRAIGHT.
Thanks for the fav and the comments!
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So just because someone prefers not to hear an opinion, that makes them a pussy? What if they just don't care to hear your b/s?
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Not at all. I'm saying that someone who posts their work on an art site dedicated to the sharing and critique of artwork and insists that they only want to hear ass-kissing praise rather than critique on ways they can improve is a pussy.
And since when is constructive criticism bullshit? Artists thrive on critique. It's what makes you better. And if you indicate that you don't care about or don't want to hear about ways to improve your art, you don't deserve the title "artist."
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That may be true, but 'constructive criticism' becomes bullshit when the 'artist' decides they're going to go and call the people who don't like to be criticized '
The mere fact of them choosing not to be critiqued is their own right and opinion, just as the person who critiques gives their opinion. Have you ever thought that maybe they only make art for themselves and do not care for what other people have to say?
Also, some people do not handle critiques well. That doesn't make them pussies. It is better to have the option to choose whether or not you want something critiqued than have your feelings drastically hurt.
Some individuals may seek 'ass kissing and praise' regardless, but I assure you that the majority here does not. We are on this site to simply share our artwork, and if we so choose, to get critiques and maybe become better at what we do. That is why the staff put the option there.
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I continue to disagree; when someone uses the "DON'T TELL ME HOW I CAN IMPROVE" option I immediately think "Coward." If you don't want any meaningful feedback on your work, you should go ahead and just disable comments. Because that's pretty much the message that comes across when the "critique not desired" option is used: you only want to hear about how great you are, not how you can become a better artist. If you don't get that impression, then that's fine. But don't expect me to change my opinion just because you disagree.
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Each is entitled to their own. I really just didn't like such a vulgar word being used to describe them. Coward would have been a much better word, and not nearly so volatile.
I guess disabling comments would be the best option...
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If I were an admin making such a blanket statement, I could understand the sentiment. But I'm just a humble devianTART making my opinion known, and as such, have no reason to mind my language.
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I guess not... it was just striking.
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Well, at least it got someone's attention. XD
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XD This made me laugh. This is freaking awesome. I agree.
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Glad you like it! 
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Welcome. I like people who call others out on this shit. XD
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FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT, MY COMRADE.
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