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trc001 In reply to Firestarforever12364 [2019-11-26 18:30:49 +0000 UTC]

Hey at least Timon and Pumbaa raise him to adult lol

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Firestarforever12364 In reply to trc001 [2019-11-26 19:59:18 +0000 UTC]

I know. That warthog and meerkat did raise him!

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trc001 In reply to BloodhoundPreston [2019-11-19 16:14:02 +0000 UTC]

Thank you ^^!

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trc001 In reply to Digolgrin [2019-11-19 16:13:45 +0000 UTC]

Haha glad you like it. I think his cub chute didn't need any pawprint symbol like his adult one, but add a little pawprint makes senses to me here.

Thanks, I always love a canopy in a colorful scheme; Its size is not huge like his adult one, similar to cub Kimba's, so it's a kinda a normal size. I think his pack could loading it. 

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Digolgrin In reply to trc001 [2019-11-19 17:02:58 +0000 UTC]

Wouldn't be opposed to adding it to all the Pride Land 'chutes either. 'Cept maybe Nala's, I still like the minimalist, 'sporty' angle we took with that one (tossing out a pilot chute to open her 'chute instead of pulling a ripcord just sounds like something Nala would do), but still--anything to a) hopefully make it obvious how they're supposed to take it off and b) add a 'royal' touch to their harnesses so that there's at least that bit of recognition on the ground.

To be honest, while I'm glad that both exist, I actually kinda like this one better than his pawprint 'chute--though not enough for me to recommend replacing the pawprint 'chute with this one, both are good in their own way. I just think this one's more 'dynamic' and expressive; perfect for an adventurous little kid like Simba here. It feels like there's a lot more you could do with it, if that makes sense.

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trc001 In reply to Digolgrin [2019-11-23 17:44:38 +0000 UTC]

Haha okay! You mean Nala's parachute from her skydiving series? Yeah, I kinda like how her blue pilot chute looking, so maybe her chute is the only adult one without huge paw print logo in all TLK parachutes.

Yeah, colorful schemes much fitting for his character here! Wonder what the reaction of Mufasa when he saw his kid drop with this parachute now :3c

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Digolgrin In reply to trc001 [2019-11-24 05:14:08 +0000 UTC]

Maybe--though Kion's definitely gonna be an awkward case now that he and his Lion Guard teammates have formally left the Pride Lands to be at Rani's side at the Tree of Life, which means a new crest for him to bear. Still, yeah; Nala's 'chute works pretty well, pawprint or not, I think. Could be that she just didn't want one added to her canopy after she married Simba 'cause she thought of herself as a hunter first and a queen second, and Kiara got hers simply because she's the crown princess. (Cub!Simba's canopy, I figure, was the first one the Pride Lands got, hence why it's got no markings.)

I'm not sure, honestly. The big guy sure seemed to have everything under control before Scar happened, and he's quick to respond when something comes up. He might just come running to make sure his son has a safe, soft landing, even if it means he has to get himself between Simba and the ground. Nala'd just be a secondary concern, what with his character's priorities favoringSimba's safety first. Something worth exploring, I imagine.

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trc001 In reply to Digolgrin [2019-12-06 03:31:46 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah, I went to see some plot summary of the new episode of Lion Guard months ago and they actually got a plot twist. I know you feel upset of it, but I don't know how the other TLK fans reacted. Although I think that is a danger deal if the crew messing the next season, lol; I agreed, cub Simba's parachute might be the first one ever in Pride Land. We never know how they got those things, although that's not necessary . Anyway, I just understand these big cats love the touch of those unique silks and they also enjoy dropping from the sky. That's why Simba and his family wanna custom marks on top of it.

Mhm, Mufasa might be worried a lot when his kid drops with this mystery fabric. I think Mufasa will try to let cub Simba landed on his back safety, even Simba's parachute opened. After Simba lands on his back, the parachute covered and wrapped them, and this young cub still talking how fun of the skydiving to his father. Mufasa might be shocking of Simba's reaction and laughing loud!

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Digolgrin In reply to trc001 [2019-12-07 15:10:59 +0000 UTC]

That was the final season. :3 Less to worry about there. 'Sides, I've gotten over a lot of what I said about it; while I still have understandable issues with some of how it's written--the stakes of Kion's journey to the Tree of Life in the first place aren't conveyed enough and is played as an adventure rather than a serious quest, for one--I think it worked out pretty well and did what it was supposed to do. Happy about that, at least. Of course, it did give me some ideas but it's nothing we can't live without.

I'd imagine Nala got her 'chute at the same time Simba did, to be honest; I mean, they did practically everything together back then. It'd probably have the same color scheme as the one she has as an adult (and probably just as soft and silky) just with a cub-sized canopy and opened with a ripcord instead of a pilot chute. Fitting for a future queen, eh?

That'd be fun to watch! :3 At least Mufasa wouldn't get completely covered, even if he ends up talking with an excited parachute ghost as a result of his actions, lol. Hope they don't get too tangled in Simba's shroud lines--there is such a thing as being too excited, after all! (I kinda see Nala being there in the background too, learning patience as she waits for her father to come help her out of her parachute. Might explain why she likes sitting under parachute silk later!)

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trc001 In reply to Digolgrin [2019-12-07 18:20:11 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I see, clever choice . At least they didn't ruin the original universe and gives Kion's exist reasonable, although I love to think the Lion Guard is the parallel universe of TLK.

Make senses to me, just like cub Simba's first parachute, Nala's one might only has colorful schemes, too. That's funny because Nala never change the color schemes even she grew up to an adult, maybe she just loves these colors, pink and purple might be the rare and queen symbol colors in TLK universe.

Yeah, that's a cub size canopy, I guess it will cover upper body of Mufasa. It will be look like a Halloween style, colorful parachute ghost carried a cub parachute ghost on his back; Ooh I think they will stuck under it for a while, because cub Simba really want to talk to his father what his experienced in mid air, the shroud lines might tangled them . Heh, maybe not like that, throwing cub Nala into the group of Sarafina's lionesses might be a good decision.

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Digolgrin In reply to trc001 [2019-12-08 03:09:19 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, that makes sense. There's still plenty of other good characters that came with him, though, and I honestly wouldn't imagine the universe without them (on top of the Roar of the Elders actually making sense in terms of the Pride Lands' spirituality--as a worldbuilder I can appreciate that), but I can see that. That being said, yeah, if you want a 'Lion King 3', so to speak, go watch that final season. Closest you're probably gonna get.

I just thought it'd work just as well for a cub, too. That, and Nala really doesn't change all that much deep down compared to Simba. Simba goes from adventurous and boisterous to melancholy and, to an extent, proud, if lazy and inexperienced. Thus, cub Simba's canopy would be more colorful than his older self's. That aside, yeah, she might've seen it as more queenly and elegant as she got older--possibly influencing Kiara's choice of 'chute as well, like I said earlier.

Heh, that'd be a pretty good reason to get an airborne pic or two in there. Better to see the sort of thing Simba would be talking about than just be told about it, y'know? 'Show, don't tell' is a potent force in storytelling for good reason. (Besides, it'd be a good excuse to show cub Simba's 'chute in action.)

All that aside, I do kinda like that image. It might be more amusing to have Mufasa's upper body stay uncovered so that it looks like he actually is talking to a very excited parachute ghost on his back, but, to be fair, Mufasa had his fair share of mischief on-screen, so there's definitely a case to be made for your idea too. Having his upper body uncovered would allow him to more easily switch his attention between Simba and Nala, though, yeah, Simba's shroud lines wouldn't let him get to her very quickly, if at all, so she won't be getting help as quickly as she'd like. (By the way, having Nala land with her mother and her lionesses is an interesting idea; what do you have in mind for that?)

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trc001 In reply to Digolgrin [2019-12-08 16:06:57 +0000 UTC]

To be honest, I am a fan of 'Lion King 2 1/2' more than the Lion Guard, lol! Just kidding, I think I will try to accept it. At least it's a new piece from the creator of Oso .

Hm, that makes senses. I think it could explain why Simba's adult parachute become more less color than the cub one. Although the adult one still very brightly, but it looks more royalty when it add a huge paw print on it. This one seems more solemn and sedate, much fitting a lion Hamlet's social status; Nala and Kiaras' chutes just the contrary, their colors just need to make them more elegant and make all lionesses envy of. Although the hunting game is kinda a ironic image to their chutes' color schemes.

It reminds me one of the early discussion of Kiara's Courage, just change Kiara to Nala here. I know you prefer Mufasa's head didn't get covered by Simba's chute. It will make Mufasa like put on a colorful king cloak, we could see there is a lump on his back, lol! As for Nala lands with her mother, I am thinking the wind might bring her to a different place, maybe a rock where lionesses take rest. Sarafina might be surprised when cub Nala lands into their group. Due to it a cub size canopy, I think Nala's parachute might covered part of them here. It's their first time to enjoy the young princess' silky fabric. 

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Digolgrin In reply to trc001 [2019-12-08 17:46:55 +0000 UTC]

Hah, fair opinion. Doesn't stop me from getting admittedly foggy mental images of Kion's girlfriend Rani trying skydiving--figure she'd be the real scaredy-cat in all this, lol.

I know it might be too excessive, but could you imagine Simba's cub 'chute design at adult size? Talk about a colorful mess, lol. That aside, yeah, it's a pretty good way of looking at it. Well, apart from Kiara having her white pawprint and Nala only having a blue pilot chute 'cause she prefers the sport over stateliness, and probably 'cause she remembers that she's meant to be a hunter too, which is indeed a fair point, but I see where you're coming from. (I also remember putting forward the idea of Kiara's friends Tiifu and Zuri--themselves Lion Guard original characters--getting parachutes a long time ago--came back to me just the other day. Girl's gotta have some skydiving partners outside her family and the Lion Guard.)

Speaking of 'Kiara's Courage', we could probably just use the three sketches we have for that one and just scrap the rest of it. Maybe a couple additional shots of the cubs fumbling around under each other's canopies and of Simba telling everyone 'look out below!', but the rest of it feels pretty unnecessary now, if I'm being perfectly honest. The collab's got the rest of the old idea's bases covered.

Anyway, that makes sense. I imagine Simba being really animated under his part of the parachute, too--excited to tell his story and really not caring about the consequences of it. He's letting that 'excited little kid', childishly overconfident part of him out here, and that might be what amuses Mufasa the most, the wild gestures and the energetic cub he has to listen to for the moment. As for Nala, well, I can run with that no problem! :3 Gave me a mental image to boot--no one actually hearing Nala coming down until after she touches ground and says something. By the time they realize they have a visitor and start wondering how she got there without being seen, her parachute drapes itself over them, with maybe only Nala, her mom and one other lioness being completely covered. Might be fun!

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trc001 In reply to Digolgrin [2019-12-09 17:59:44 +0000 UTC]

Heh, I see Rani has a new insignia on her foot. Maybe her parachute design has that on top of the canopy, just haven't get an ideas of the color scheme yet.

I like to imagine something like that, so it's okay to me :3.  By the way, we could say adult Simba shared one of his cub parachute's colors to Kovu, because they're family now:
Yeah, although it sounds a little bit stereotypes, but I just thinking Nala and Kiara might very fitting those colors very well. It's not easy to see Pride Land's parachutes are in dark color tone; Ha, I remember that, but I never thought of these two seriously before, I think they don't have parachutes because they're not belongs to royalty family, but if Kiara wanna give her besties some, I think it would be consider.

Oh yeah. Can't believe time passed so fast because I am in army those days. Maybe I will try to collects these scrap as an incomplete projects if someone wanna to see.

Mhm, that sounds cute :3. I also think Mufasa's eyebowls wanna try to look away from Simba and targeting where Nala will be land. After he saw Nala lands into the rock place, he might be feel relief and back to listening his son's experiences! Ah thank you, yeah, lionesses might very welcome Nala back, and Nala's silk will give them a privacy time to share the joy.

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Digolgrin In reply to trc001 [2019-12-10 03:42:14 +0000 UTC]

Maybe, yeah--think that's the only solid thing we have right now. I do prefer the Lion Guard insignia to the Tree of Life crest on sheer cool factor--and honestly I think Adult Kion and Fuli would keep it on their canopies as a matter of personal preference if they had the choice in that matter--but Rani definitely would have her crest on hers. It's just part of her heritage. (If you're looking for color ideas--the Tree of Life is depicted as bearing yellow leaves, or at the very least gold leaves, she's got... I wanna say 'auburn' eyes? (They match her fur at least.) And the mark she receives on her forehead after her grandmother dies and she becomes Queen of her pride is blue. Don't think pink would suit this lioness very well, lol.)

Y'know, it's funny--there kinda is a small resemblance between that 'chute and Cub!Simba's canopy if you look at the edges. The main body of Kovu's canopy is still all green, yeah, but there's that bit of yellow between the green edge and the main body that calls it to mind. Wouldn't say it's enough to actually give him the adult-size version of his cub canopy--that orange pawprint's a bit too good to lose--but it's fun to note nevertheless! (Speaking of the lionesses, you do have a fair point with Tiifu and Zuri--I feel like they might either just be skydiving partners for Kiara, or at the very least so bad at parachuting that they don't take that many jumps, since Kion had to bail those two out of trouble more often than not--but it is worth noting: Vitani and her friends, all lionesses, actually are the new Lion Guard now that Kion's gone, and we made exceptions for those guys 'cause they technically acted to enforce the Circle of Life under the direction of the royal family. They might well have to train with parachutes themselves!)

Which would mean that really cute Kiara pose from Simba's landing  would go uncolored, but I suppose there's nothing stopping you from making that bit its own pic; cut-and-paste is a thing after all. But anyway, if there's a use for at least some of those, maybe that landing comic might be useful as a starting point for a short two-part series with just Kion and Kiara. I remember you suggesting a pic where they're both trying their hardest to get their sibling's parachute off them 'cause they're still angry at each other--maybe that can be a good ending point.

Heh, well, not all the lionesses, but yeah, a lot of 'em would be partially covered, so your point kinda still stands. Nala and her mom, being completely covered, would get the most private time, while the rest might agree that Sarafina can catch up later and leave them to it after rescuing their friend. All the while, of course, ignoring the plight of their king and his prince in the distance. But yeah--that might be a good way to compare the size of Simba's cub canopy to an adult lion, just drape it over him. Reminescent of that time you had Simba land in Rafiki's tree, just on a smaller scale.

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Digolgrin In reply to Xros64 [2019-11-18 20:40:39 +0000 UTC]

If I may share a fun fact with you, this parachute was actually the first one we ever designed for Simba, before we settled on the pawprint-marked canopy his adult self uses. While gathering reference material for something he and I are doing, I came across it again and decided it looked too good to leave behind, so I suggested that it become his parachute when he was a cub. Very colorful, I'm sure you agree. :3

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Xros64 In reply to Digolgrin [2019-11-18 21:00:46 +0000 UTC]

It’s understandable, and it is indeed very nice on Simba! You two have some pretty cool parachute design ideas for the characters! I’m still surprised by this picture; the fact he went the extra mile to draw the background and make it almost like a scene you would see in the movie is outstanding!

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trc001 In reply to Xros64 [2019-11-19 16:06:09 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, and I am glad you notice the background, I always do my best everytime ^^

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Xros64 In reply to trc001 [2019-11-19 16:48:48 +0000 UTC]

No problem! Keep up the great work; it shows that you have improved a lot! Looking forward to your next pictures!

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