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TheSnowDrifter β Tired of Supposed ArtisticNude
Published: 2007-08-07 05:45:55 +0000 UTC; Views: 8102; Favourites: 140; Downloads: 36
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I'm sick and tired of seeing naked girls in the ' Popular' section of DevArt. Without any sort of Censored Preview (Such as, a Head-to-Shoulder Shot) I'm constantly being bombarded by completely vile (it's basically porn to be porn and provocative, not to be artistic) Nudity, despite it's supposed 'Artistic' Nature.This isn't much, and it may never do anything, but I know I'm not the only one who's bothered by the Artistic Nudity. I can't just 'Not See It,' so don't give me that crap. Just click the main DevArt image, go into the first page of popular art, and don't *tell* me you aren't bombarded with un-censored nudity within half to 3/4ths of a page while searching for other people's art.
A censored thumbnail preview, or some such as is utilized in the gif/flash sections of the site could be utilized.
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It's not just photography. I'm shrinking the text because this is kind of long, and I apologize, but I think it's relevant...
Photographs of REAL WOMEN spread eagle and touching themselves are a-okay, but don't let there be suggestive fanart out there of FICTIONAL women. The lose their shit over that.
I draw post-manga InuKag fanart for Inuyasha. Inuyasha and Kagome are married in the epilogue and she's 19 (or just shy of it), so they're both LEGAL. In CANON.
One of my "things" I love to do is express emotion in my work through body language and facial expression in both my personal work AND my professional work (I'm an illustrator). InuKag is my OTP, so I love drawing fanart that shows the emotional/spiritual connection between them since the last season of the anime showed them in the credits as being connected by a red thread (meaning they're soulmates in Asian culture). Since they're MARRIED in canon, I've drawn intimate interactions between them. Not intercourse or even hands on genitals or anything like that; I mean kisses and embraces. That's it!
I don't draw sexual intimacy to titillate. I draw sexual intimacy to show connections, and not even literally since I've NEVER posted anything that was "the actual act". I don't draw porn. I draw erotica, and there's a BIG difference. I've never posted full nudity of either gender let alone full frontal male (save for figure drawings from when I was in art school of course, but those aren't fanart and really ARE artistic nudes!). The most I have EVER shown is ONE breast β in PROFILE β in ONE image.
But I got all my intimate InuKag stuff removed by $taff because it was "sexual portrayal of a minor" or whatever they call it, even though she is 19 and he's over 250 and they're friggin' married. The $taff guy who handled it literally said, and I quote, "Epilogues don't count.", accused me of "exploiting a perceived loophole in policy to use a minor in a sexual manner" (USE!), said it was all porn and "fap material", and basically called me a pedophile. For drawing two consenting married adults in intimate embraces/situations with NOTHING showing. In one of the deleted images they were both not only clothed in modern undergarments but they were also sitting three feet away from each other!!
And yet reporting THIS: (nsfw of course: fav.me/d86xcu6 ) for pornography came back as INVALID! This woman is TOUCHING HERSELF β which is clearly porn in dA's ToS! β and it's INVALID!
But my drawings β that don't fit even one single criteria for porn even a LITTLE BIT and show NOTHING β are removed for being underage porn.
What. The. Fuck.
I'm convinced that the blatant porn that gets to stay up despite being reported stays up because it appeals to somebody among the higher-ups, and I'm not the only one who has voiced that thought. How else could so much blatant hypocrisy happen CONSTANTLY?
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I don't report anything honestly (except when my art is stolen/anyone has an art theft I'm aware of), and I mainly made this stamp back when I would actually look at the front page of DA (when they'd have the most popular pics of the day) and it would be a lot of untagged fetish stuff (there was no NSFW function then either I don't think). As for your fanart, it doesn't matter that they've been aged. DA, for whatever reasons (probably legal, because of US regulations or copyright holder requests), will remove art of "underaged characters" if it's noted or reported. Pokemon fans have this issue as well. You aren't the only one (/fandom). You may need to find a different site to host your aged/AU Inuyasha character artwork. For the record, I don't even search for any fanart anymore unless it's like, once or twice a year for some odd reason. I didn't read your post in full (I skimmed it), but I hope that helps you even in the slightest bit.
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I can tell you skimmed it because I believe you missed my point entirely. I was talking about the utter hypocrisy of dA ignoring blatant pornography violations involving real people but make up violations that aren't there when it comes to fictional people.
I didn't "age" them or "age them up". The character in question was clearly established as being 18, going on 19 in the canon source material. You can't "age up" a character that's already that age in canon!
For things like PokΓ©mon and other series where the characters are minors, I can absolutely understand that because that's dodgy territory. But for things like Inuyasha and Harry Potter? The original material β and thus the original authors/creators β establish the characters as adults.
I don't think it's right for dA to throw shit fits about fictional characters who are "canonly" of-age by saying "Epilogues don't count." Yes they do, and it isn't right to label people as pedophiles for using characters that AREN'T UNDERAGE in canon while blatant photographic pornography is marked invalid when reported.
And that's not to mention the fact that the FBI have stated that they don't care about underage fictional characters, which STILL doesn't apply to this situation since the characters AREN'T underage in the source material.
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Ok. I'm not saying you're wrong. -shrugs- I don't know what else to tell you, really.
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I completely agree with you. I don't even bother to look at the main DA page.
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I know the feeling, I recently ran into a user who just had pictures of penises, not in any art form, just the penis o_e it wasn't censored at all
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that is true, the only bodily fluid not allowed on here is c** and most porn pics wont get taken off as long as you censor the actual P**** and v***** together, so yeah.
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I think nudity is okay as long as the pic is artistic and does not shove a vagina up your face.
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At the time it was all V in the face for no reason
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all i have to say. why are people so freaking scared of boobs. if you are female. you have a pare. grow up. it is art. i don't like it. i don't agree with it. but i am in no position to say that something isn't art. turn on safe viewing and if you still see them ask the artist to turn on mature viewing. why are people so fucking incapable of fixing things so simple. its like one you tube people watching videos they know they will hate.
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This is a really good stamp There is really no difference between "artistic nudity" and porn
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There is actually. Artistic nudity has more of a message behind it that you can see, and artistic nudity isn't people having sex or masturbating. Porn is. There is a big difference.
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I said that a while ago, I now know there is a difference. Though I don't like nudity in general I know that artistic nudity is supposed to show the beauty of the human body while porn does the complete opposite.Β
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um how does porn show the opposite i mean everything else in your statement i agree with but im pretty sure that porn doesn't show the ugliness of the human body
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I'm saying it's degrading, while artistic nudity shows beauty.Β
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oh ok i respect your opinion and i agree with it in most cases
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Good point, I just tried and third page into it, four lines down in "glamour portraits" was a girl laying on the floor. She's wearing a shirt, but it does look like she has no pants or skirt, or anything. MIGHT be short shorts, or a short black panty, but that blends in so well, its not very good.
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Why can't the DA staff be as smart as you for pointing this out?
There IS a Warning option, but people tend to just ignore it; I don't, as I know some things I upload aren't exactly child-friendly...that's besides the point, though (but the idea for a thumbnail that has a warning on it is a good one)
The majority of supposed "Artistic Nude" works nowadays are just photoshopped to have the colours altered or effects added, (IDK how it works) which most people think is enough for something to be artistic...artistic nude leaves at least SOMETHING to the imagination, while porn leaves NOTHING to it
There's even some obvious porn art that's had the borders scaled down, so the rude parts of it are hidden...but then, you KNOW people are gonna go & find the full version somewhere else on t'internets...
I'm not saying porn's bad, I'm just saying it needs to be put in it's place & that place really isn't here...the minumum age on DA's what? Thirteen? I know I'm not wanting thirteen-year-olds looking though pages on DA & finding porn in the very early results
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I agree. I do think some of the pictures can be artistic but I think it would be best that it was just a head to shoulder thumbnail preview.
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i agree, porn is disgusting, and i wish this site had stricter censors. at least i'm under 18 so some of that shit is blocked if the artist put a mature tag on it
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Tell me about it. There's so much stuff on here that doesn't belong. It's clearly not artistic nude, it's meant to be blatantly sexual, you can always tell by the image itself and the description the artist leaves. It's always , "HAHA I LOVE TO DRAW BIG BEWBZ", "YAY FOR PANTIES", then the comments are always. "HAWT", "SEXY", "I'D DO HER."
WTF??? Go watch some porn on a PORN WEBSITE & GTFO dA with that stuff!
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a few minutes ago i saw one of the most sickest things in history of DA...a naked 14 year old that had been photographed O_O....i think todays internet porn is inflicting teens minds.
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I get really tired of that stuff too. Especially when there are some people who just can't seem to know when they're supposed to put a mature content filter on things, like pictures of a naked anime girl with enormous airbag boobs spreading her legs to the viewer of the picture. -_- Now, if that had a mature content filter, I wouldn't have to have that awkward image burned into my mind. Also, there's a difference between artistic nudity and porn. Artistic nudity isn't made to arouse people or as masturbation-fuel, it's made just like any other artwork: to look good and give an interesting message, while porn is mostly just cheap pictures of women (No, there's not any male porn on DA, they have a rule against that, but apparently there's no rule against female porn, so they're basically saying it's okay to objectify women, but not okay to objectify men.) with gigantic boobs spreading their legs.
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sorry, but since it is a personal preferance as to what is "art" and what is "porn" who are you to say what the difference is to the rest of us? just because you say its porn doesnt mean it has no artistic value. I refuse to belive that YOU and people like you can judge for all of us what does and what doesnt have artistic value. I think what you mean to say is that you would like the content filters to work better. or your just a nazi troll and should be ignored.
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I didn't say it didn't have artistic value- my problem is with the fact that there isn't a preview option where it focuses on a none-genital part of the body. Some people would like to have the mature filter on and not see the artistic nude gallery. The content filters block too much. You obviously read my issue incorrectly/read my AN at all.
This stamp doesn't say "No artistic nude!" It says "Without censors, it's porn."
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porn is defined to each individual. one persons extreme is anothers tame. if the content filter stops you from seeing it, its working. if its stopping you from seeing what you want to, it isnt, or your just going to have to be an adult and deal with what you see. a content filter blocks the content you do not wish to see, but other people may consider it art, and want to. it should not be censored from everyone just so you dont see what you dont want to. thats what the filter is for. if its not working to your standards, complain about that. dont complain about "porn" because your definition isnt the only one.
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I am talking about the basic preview thumbnail. Good grief man.
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Dun worry , he's been posting this shite to lots of people who have made anti nudity/porn stamps. I like how you, simply stating your opinion, makes you a nazi troll. When he has gone to such lengths to copy paste the same shpeal ALL OVER.
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I sort of wondered if I was being trolled.
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I have nothing against nudes, but when I do see mature artwork that's uncensored, I do report it.
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Okay, normally, i don't get into a fit, but...
Why are you so disturbed by nudity? I mean, it's only a few parts of our bodies, and even with clothes, we're still naked underneath.
Don't forget the fact that we were BORN that way.
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It is terrible that people have such an issue with the human body in the natural form. /:
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I know. It's kind of sad, really. :/
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You know, a friend of mine got three of her pictures removed from her gallery, with the notification that it was "porn". well, these pictures didn't show any genitals, and they were about fictional characters. I wonder how dA makes their decisions about pornography and "artistic nudity".....so thanks for the stamp.
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I agree it is really annoying seeing nudity all the time on here. I would out the mature filter on but then half of what I look at might be blocked from me, like pics with blood and fighting on.
It really get's annoying when logging on and you see some nude lady feeling herself up or feeling someone else up ><
What's more annoying when you report the reall bad thing that are not allowed on da (like one I saw with 3 girl's haveing sex which da state they do not allow on here) they just give you a note saying your report is not valid at all coz the artist put it under 'artistic nude' making it fine for DA. yet they say you dont allow one like that T_T
I agree full DA should really sort it out. Kid's come on this site (saying they are older then they are) and they see it all the time from her so it's just free porno for them.
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Well, for me, I would appreciate it if DA could at least just put 2 types of Mature filters- Nude filters, and then filters for everything else, since I don't want to block all Mature content- just the 'Artistic Nude' galleries.
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If they did that it would be so much better. that way we can all be pretty happy about it, as then we get too see what we want and not have it blocked him trying too block the nude's.
May be if you said about it too a Da admin they might think about it and maybe if we are lucky do it.
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Just put on the mature filter on if you're disgusted with such "vile" bodies.
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I bet Devart used it at first just to make this Website more popular. 
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how does i shot turning the mature content filter on?
dude. what's so freaky about the naked body? why are you so disturbed by nudity? sheesh. :l
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Uh. Mature content filter? It's there for a reason.
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you can have artistic nudes that are tastfully done leave tits to the imagination cover them up with a scarf or something similar in my mind leave it to the imagination its a lot more interesting instead of having naked men and women shoved in your face take a look at music on my site thats tastfull she obviously naked but you can see nothing
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RUN ON SENTENCE!!!! I can't understand a darn thing you're saying!!!!! From what I can gather, you missed the point. I would like to have censored PREVIEWS, the actual image.. if people wanna see it, they can, but or the thumbnail on DA.. I'd appreciate a censored version!!! MY INNOCENCE, MAN!!!!
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