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Published: 2014-03-17 18:08:02 +0000 UTC; Views: 534; Favourites: 5; Downloads: 0
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Description So this was basically my reaction when the horrible jk said she would have paired hermione with Harry instead of Ron. This was also a bit of a stretch for me because I wanted to practice drawing hands and expressions neither of which really worked. My tablet also is having real issues with deviantart today and the site is refusing to upload, and my keyboard refuses to type and the second keyboard refuses to use the backspace button..... and I'm really really annoyed. That's probably appropriate because I was really annoyed when JK said she'd have paired Hermione with harry if she did it all again... spoilt hero boy got enough out of the books, and poor Ron was always second best. He deserves a stunner and other great qualitied  girl like Hermione. That's now a word thanks to the aforementioned tablet issues. I imagine Hermione having a panic because her creator has said they aren't right for each other and the creator must be right. Right!? And Ron calming her down because even though he's normally the panicked one, this is the one thing he's sure about.  
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nancyinfernley [2014-03-22 04:58:13 +0000 UTC]

i don't think she would ever change her mind. she has been in love with him since the first saw him (even if she didn't know it). you don't change your mind just because you hear some BS like that. somebody asked Emma Watson who she thought she would want to see Hermione with and i remember she said it was Ron. so even the actress thought so at one time, no matter what she said after JK changed her mind.

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Mairelyn In reply to nancyinfernley [2014-03-25 20:39:33 +0000 UTC]

Emma stuck by Ron/Hermione in the interview, Just to let you know.
It was JKR who changed her mind.

(don't be fooled by the journalist saying emma saying "people wonder if ron could make her happy. 
1. that was emma trying to see things from some fans *coughKLOVEScough view not saying she thought so, 2. she said Hermione could be quite critical. AND she ended up saying that while yes, Hermione was there for harry, Hermione NEEDED and Wanted Ron. )

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nancyinfernley In reply to Mairelyn [2014-03-26 00:16:00 +0000 UTC]

that's right. i never saw the spark with Harry. i swear i saw it in the first movie. i didn't know anything about Harry Potter when the movie opened up in theaters. my daughter started working that weekend at the theater. so i went and fell in love. then of course i had to read the book. i never every thought she would be with Harry. it surprised me that Daniel Radcliffe didn't get it either. i remember watching an interview with him on The Actor's Studio. the Deathly Hallows book had just come out and he said he was shocked that Harry was marrying Ginny and that Ron got Hermione. lol. you think by then he would have figured it out. lol. but boys can be dense.

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Mairelyn In reply to nancyinfernley [2014-03-26 15:54:44 +0000 UTC]

okay So reply follow up-  I'm watching the Actor Studio interview with him (and i think it's the one you're talking about because they mention the DH book being out)  and I finished it and first, at  (5:56) part 2  it's the interviewer who's going "harry and hermione! voted most popular pairing" (and large part of audience had the NERVE to cheer gddamn it) and radcliffe said "the hp series is not a democracy", and to me it came across as he not being on the h/hr boat.

then  I reached the "infamous" moment in the interview at 5:02 part 3. and when the interviewer brings up ron/hermione, and the fact that they end up together in DH. Radcliffe goes "yeah" and salutes with a smile to the cheering audience. 

If I had to make a guess, he's not a h/hr shipper, he does support r/hr, But he doesn't like harry/ginny.

and I think he doesn't like harry/ginny from a personal perspective in the sense that, and he mentions this, he knows the girl that played ginny since she was 8/9 so for him to get into the "i love her romantically" is weird. 

(and also i'm pretty sure I seen him mention he liked harry with luna)

also the interviewer was a bit of a scandal-stirring idiot. funny and charming sure, but an idiot for bringing up so many bad knee jerk topics to the discussion (and for being like most interviewers and go harry/hermione. I really wish we had gotten, in all the span of the hp movies, at least ONE interviewer who was ron/hermione supporter)

so yeah, if Daniel Radcliffe gave the inclination of favoring h/hr over ron/hermione, at least in wasn't in this interview. 

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nancyinfernley In reply to Mairelyn [2014-03-27 00:32:10 +0000 UTC]

i didn't say he gave the inclination, i just said he never really thought they would. like he wasn't paying attention to what was going on in the movies and books. so it was a surprise to him. maybe he thought that R/Hr would just date and then marry others, like L/N did later. i was shocked that Neville and Luna ended up marrying other ppl. lol. i was just saying he was kind of dense about the workings of it all.

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Mairelyn In reply to nancyinfernley [2014-03-27 02:48:41 +0000 UTC]

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree because, to me he always came across as supportive of Ron/Hermione. (even when certain other people *coughKLOVEScoughTHESTUPIDJOURNALISTS/TVHOSTSaskingquestionscough* didn't.

as for the neville/luna well that was something the fans wanted, but it wasn't going to and the filmakers decided to throw a bones to the audience.

personally, i adore neville & luna but not together. and, even in film context, it came out of Nowhere. 

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nancyinfernley In reply to Mairelyn [2014-03-28 10:03:48 +0000 UTC]

lol, i have always loved Neville. i think it's an odd pairing also. but since they decided to go for it, i figured i would go along with it. i think he is as cuter than Harry and as cute as Ron. (i have a fondness for redheads).

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Mairelyn In reply to nancyinfernley [2014-03-26 14:24:49 +0000 UTC]

????
Are you sure? did he actually said that? or maybe he was joking... (goes google hunting) meanwhile...
 
I watched most of his interviews, specially the Deathly Hallows ones, and in one he was asked about the "tent scene" (MASSIVE EYEROLL AT STUPID JOURNALISTS) and he said "they're just friends, don't worry everyone Harry is not going to steal Hermione from Ron".

and in general he's always been supportive of Ron/Hermione. in fact I remember explicitly an interview where the interviewer was all "Harry/Hermione, so Hermione gets married to harry? " and Daniel makes this indignant noise and goes "Have you not been watching the films?! it's like her and RON" (and then thanks the audience for agreeing with him) and it was at the time DH the book came out.  

so that's odd. 

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nancyinfernley In reply to Mairelyn [2014-03-27 00:32:52 +0000 UTC]

i must have heard it wrong. lol.

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sugarfr0st In reply to nancyinfernley [2014-03-25 20:24:52 +0000 UTC]

I totally agree, and I honestly think you can see it so early on in the books and films. They always had that spark, and everyone wants a relationship like theirs! I think the point of this story is Ron pretty much saying everything that you have. Besides, I actually really like Ginny, and think she's a great match for Mr Potter.

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nancyinfernley In reply to sugarfr0st [2014-03-26 02:37:12 +0000 UTC]

yes, i feel the same way. i saw it in the first book JKR wrote and i saw it in the first movie. it's just so obvious. i think JKR was just being obnoxious because she can be. lol!!!

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Mairelyn [2014-03-21 04:59:29 +0000 UTC]

on a different note,
Ron in your drawing came out Amazing. 
You did a fantastic job drawing him in all his glory- his good looks, his devotion to Hermione, his maturity in how he deals with the situation and tries to calm hermione down.

a lovely piece of work. 

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sugarfr0st In reply to Mairelyn [2014-03-25 20:30:42 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much! I think this is the one area where Ron Weasley would be confident and not panic. I was more pleased with Ron in the end than Hermione. I've had some trouble with her and just dont know why! Usually its the male aspect I struggle with..

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Mairelyn [2014-03-18 18:40:01 +0000 UTC]

I totally agree with you, except about that thing you said about Harry.

Harry wasn't spoiled at all, and it's a horrible thing to pit him against Ron when they're Best friends. The problem was with Rowling NOT Harry.
(also yeah Harry got a lot of stuff but he also was lost even more- he lost his parents, his godfather, his pet,etc- so don't be like that to harry)

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sugarfr0st In reply to Mairelyn [2014-03-19 19:30:37 +0000 UTC]

Ahh then we must agree to disagree, but then I always saw more from a Weasley point of view. I just identified more with them than a young boy who got special treatment from teachers, and natural innate ability to master strong magic with little to no practice.. (mainly the Imperius curse)

I just thought he was also very very arrogant sometimes, in his belief that he was right, which you know he was a few times, but that also went in his negatives comment.

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Mairelyn In reply to sugarfr0st [2014-03-21 04:55:16 +0000 UTC]

I'm not saying that you can't sympathized with the Weasleys or like Ron more (I mean Ron IS AWESOME!  Who do you think is in My icon right now?!)

but this seems to come out of a place of protectiveness/anger at poor treatment of Ron/Romione because of what Rowling said.
(which understandable but frankly? Who Cares! unless she goes and re-writes the books (which she would have to be utterly out of her mind to do so, because THAT would definitely cause a fan outrage, Ron IS awesome and Romione have their 19 years and beyond happy ending- and it's in Writting- and that's going to last far longer than her) 

which is NOT harry,the character's fault, but his creator for being influenced by steve Kloves- if you want to blame someone blame him. 
 
 calling Harry "spoiled" when there are Far Worse "spoiled" characters in the books (Malfoy, Dudley,etc) is unfair judgement. 

as for the "special treatment" 1) Which Main character Doesn't have that?! Katniss is "the mockingjay", Aang was "The Avatar" 

Heck, Even Hermione got special treatment! being allowed the time-turner in third year! the ravenclaws complaining of why she ended in gryffindor instead of ravenclaw. Being able to brew the incredibly difficult and way too advanced polyjuice potion at the mere age of 12 ...
(also hermione BTW has a bigger case of "arrogant I'm right!" attitude than Harry does, and it's harder for Hermione to apologize for it--- 
ex. The Half-Blood Prince Book, Trelanwney being incompetent/Divination being a joke, The Deathly Hallow,etc)

and Ron is the youngest chess champion at hogwarts, having beating McGonagall's chess set. 

or Even Ginny! Ginny being SO good at quidditch when we don't see her practicing prior to fifth year. Ginny, who was able to break away from Tom Riddle possession when others couldn't. 

Does it make them "spoiled?" No. 

(also No- I don't hate Hermione or Ginny,  I love them, *and I already said I love Ron*  if the whole "arrogant I'm right thing is going to be brought up, let's be real-- there's a lot of characters suffering from this) 

also 2. there's nothing wrong with having ability to master things with no practice. (Again, Hermione does it with the polyjuice potion). Lots of us have innate abilities. and  if anything, in harry's case it's genetics, because ollivanders did said that both lily and james were good at magic, so why wouldn't harry be? 

and 3. the imperius curse thing was a complete an utter "I need the plot to move faster!" writer's flaw, let's be real. 

bottom line, everything that is harry's "fault" here is Rowling indulging her favorite characters and it's not a bad thing off the characters themselves. (nor Harry, nor hermione,etc)

does it sucks that Ron doesn't get this preferential treatment more often? Absolutely! but it's neither harry nor hermione's fault (definitely Kloves though)


i don't think this can change your mind (and again, I don't care if you like Ron/The Weasleys more) but hopefully it will make you think, and hopefully don't villify Harry in the future. 

 

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sugarfr0st In reply to Mairelyn [2014-03-25 20:44:00 +0000 UTC]

No, I do see what you're saying although I didn't think Katniss had special treatment, she'd hunted for years! Ginny practiced with her brothers outside of school a lot as well, but you do have a point on the other characters. Personally I think its because I saw or understood the other characters vulnerabilities more maybe, than Harry so it wasn't as negative for them.

I definitely think its more a case of Rowling's writing, but in say Hermione's case she does a lot of work and prep and gets so stressed about the grades that I feel for her, where Harry tends to not care and it reminds me so much of some boys at my school who disregarded rules, and never studied and still got great grades and special treatment of teachers and it was very frustrating!

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Mairelyn In reply to sugarfr0st [2014-03-25 23:34:02 +0000 UTC]

I'm glad you understand.

And you're right, maybe it's perspective. I been in Harry's shoes so many times (One of my friends is such a ringer for Harry personality wise it's scary!) so I see a lot from his perspective. so that's why I got protective.  

I wouldn't say Harry doesn't care per say. that might be the case with Potion class or divination (for obvious reasons) but it's been shown he likes DADA and works hard at it (he worked hard at learning the patronus charm after all) and in PoA we got that chapter of him enjoying doing his homework (at the risk of being caught by the Dursleys!)

but teenage boys usually not that much into paying attention unless it's something they're good at or interesting (this could be said of both harry and Ron- as they're slackers but when it counts they put a lot of effort)

and again, being able to separate writer/other people and the characters is key.

great discussion 

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Firestrong [2014-03-17 21:15:08 +0000 UTC]

Actually, they had already cleared this up, and never did she state that she would rather Hermione and Harry end up together. She said that Romione wasn't perfect and would probably need counseling. But she did say that Harry and Ginny were perfect together and for each other. When she had first started the series, her first thought was to put Ron and Hermione together, which is why she late claimed that it was "wishful thinking" on her part. She had considered putting Harry and Hermione together, and killing off Ron, but the fans heard about it and went berserk. So with that, she went back to her original plan of Ron and Hermione.

(ROMIONE FOREVER!!!)

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sugarfr0st In reply to Firestrong [2014-03-19 19:22:21 +0000 UTC]

She definitely said it in the article I read, but I haven't read any since, so if she's gone back and clarified a different meaning then I've missed it. And thinking about it, It was all quoted and everything, but obviously the article I read could have been made up. I hope it has been cleared up, but I do suspect things will have been Said afterwards to calm everything down... maybe JK has backtracked when she realised it wasn't a popular opinion.

On another note, I am ridiculously slow at getting drawings done, so I had this idea and started it and then left it and the world of potter for a couple of months. So if I have missed anything, that'll be why!

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Firestrong In reply to sugarfr0st [2014-03-19 23:39:03 +0000 UTC]

Yah that's also true. Oh well, Rominoe wins over!!

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sugarfr0st In reply to Firestrong [2014-03-20 12:09:50 +0000 UTC]

Haha exactly! I'm such a big fan of these two. It was so well played.

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Firestrong In reply to sugarfr0st [2014-03-20 21:02:13 +0000 UTC]

Yes, definitely.

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