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OwenDavid8 [2021-06-18 13:43:37 +0000 UTC]
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Red-Jam [2016-10-22 20:09:38 +0000 UTC]
I seriously love your artwork, but every time I see this I just want to cry. if pyrrha understood her weaknesses then this could come true. but its great artworkΒ none the less. keep it up.
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OCArtist [2016-10-22 02:17:11 +0000 UTC]
Dang it Soundwave why did you have to hit me in the feels right before the new volume? I just finished a ten hour RWBY binge to get hyped up and then you do this to me? Oh my heart hurts... and my left arm weirdly.
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Soundwave3591 In reply to OCArtist [2016-10-22 02:39:14 +0000 UTC]
to be honest? an irrational fear.
Just saw the preview clip RT released, and Nora was throwing around the name "JNPR' like the fall of Beacon happened yesterday. and you know that red sash people have been freaking out about on Jaune from the poster?Β
wasn't there.
like i said, an irrational fear, but i'm genuinely concerned that as time passes people are going to start, well, forgetting about Pyrrha. i won't allow it.
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OCArtist In reply to Soundwave3591 [2016-10-22 02:46:20 +0000 UTC]
I'm going to reserve judgement/fear until after I get a better idea of where the story is going. Volume 3 threw everyone I know through a loop and I don't know what to think anymore.
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Soundwave3591 In reply to OCArtist [2016-10-22 02:55:11 +0000 UTC]
I mean, even if the show only lasts for a few more seasons, she was still killed off VERY early on....If Ruby's voice actress was speaking truth in an interview, then Rwby's gonna run for TWENTY SEASONS.
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OCArtist In reply to Soundwave3591 [2016-10-22 03:04:09 +0000 UTC]
Well twenty seasons means plenty of time to mourn and recover.
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Soundwave3591 In reply to OCArtist [2016-10-22 03:12:01 +0000 UTC]
I'll never get fully "over" it. and certainly never forgive Miles and Kerry. I don't care how "good" they make RWBY, i'll never be able to enjoy it as much as i enjoyed Seasons 1-3 because my favorite/the best character won't be there.
i think it's mostly because i didn't really get into the RWBY fanbase proper until season 3, when i started actively watching and first fell in love with Pyrrha's character....so her wholly unnecessary death hit me pretty damn hard.
and then there's how they seem determined to cram team RWBY's story down our throats, which gives rise to the question as why JNPR was created in the first place unless it was just to be bullet shields.
Game of GROANS my ass. there's no "need" to KILL a character in any series. the number of ways they could have removed her without killing her is staggering.
(wipes forehead) whew! sorry, went off on a tangent there.
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OCArtist In reply to Soundwave3591 [2016-10-22 03:29:28 +0000 UTC]
I personally think that you're letting your feelings for Game of Thrones interfere with your opinion of RWBY, though that may be because I come from a family where everyone takes it out on me when they're upset about other stuff because I can't understand the social cues that warn people without social disabilities to run the hell away.
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Soundwave3591 In reply to OCArtist [2016-10-22 03:41:13 +0000 UTC]
It's more my feelings that "escapism" is getting dragged down by an obsession with 'realism' because people are just too cynical to sit back and ENJOY things. nothing can just go RIGHT: someone has to die, or get mauled, or possessed, or a 'things get worse and don't get better" thing going on, and it really is just getting to the point where no one's going to be SHOCKED by anything anymore because everything that's horrible about the world is just "routine."
If RWBY had ended with Season 2, it would have been a perfect reversal of this trope: bad guy is stopped (but not without a fight) heroes win, everyone lives. just because we need HOPE in our lives right now. and i have no problem with a series ending on a cliffhanger, because I like thinking about AU's and so forth (which has been giving me a lot of emotional troubles about MM! AU: do i keep going? do i wrap it up and let it go?)
A world of Bulletproof soul shields and superpowers, eldritch abomination shadow monsters, deus-ex-Dust-ina, and little girls twirling sniper-scythes like cheerleader batons did NOT need any realism added.
and you're preaching to the choir, man. i feel the same way with my family.
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OCArtist In reply to Soundwave3591 [2016-10-22 03:54:01 +0000 UTC]
I personally prefer a balance of escapism and realism, though I do also enjoy things that are blown completely out of proportion.
I would also like to say that I find it to be somewhat ironic that you dislike realism yet the events of your MM! AU has incredibly realistic psychological and political scenarios (though I once again have to point out that the asteroid strike is a little extreme)
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Soundwave3591 In reply to OCArtist [2016-10-22 04:22:09 +0000 UTC]
I recall a quote by one of my favorite Authors, Dan Abnett, who is most famous for writing Warhammer 40K books. the gist of it was this: write what you know.
and what i know is, well, the rise of extremist politics. as a historian, i Study the rise of dictators, particularly Hitler, and how they manipulated the masses to turn them against a specific group of people who they could blame for all their problems. then, exploiting a catastrophic event, they seized dictatorial powers, and by the time people realized that "hey, they're not so great" they couldn't say anything without getting a bullet in the back of the head.
and with a psychology major for a friend, i also picked up a bit on analyzing human behaviors: for example, Pyrrha seems to suffer from a desire to not upset anyone (her catch phrase is "I'm sorry" after all) out of her desire to make friends. (I use this in MM to try and explain WHY she listened to Weiss about keeping JJ moving around)
Blake is obviously intimidated by Adam, and the cues that their relationship was abusive could not be more obvious. people in forums are all like "why was she so useless against him?" and i'm like "because she's AFRAID of him, duh!"
Yang puts on a brave front and a stubborn streak, but is actually quite wrong-footed when her concentration or focus is disrupted. See her fight with Neon for a perfect example: Neon's constant taunting kept Yang from plotting a proper strategy, but Weiss' sacrifice gave her the clarity to focus on her attack. and then came what happened with Mercury, she was clearly disturbed by it, and not just because of what it did to her reputation.
Jaune is actually the closest to the "straight man" the series has: he's your everyday guy dropped into a situation that's WAAAAY over his head and he has been forced to adapt.
so...huh. I GUESS my issue with what happened to Pyrrha is that it seems....very forced. like, I've heard all the "she was destined to die!" arguments and frankly i'm sick of them. if she was "destined" to die, fine, but couldn't they have done it in a way that actually fit her character? by any observation, the only argument i can think of as to why she went and fought Cinder was because she was rattled by the Aura transfer and wasn't thinking clearly.
My idea for Fox's death in the AU is actually what i consider a "fitting" death: like, no self-glorification, no gaining a higher power, just purely to save lives.
And when people get all bent outta shape and refuse to even CONSIDER Pyrrha appearing in some other form (and belittling and insulting those that do) then i get upset.
as for the issue of realism, If that's the route RWBY is going to take, fine. But if they're going to flip-flop back and forth between those settings (idyllic fantasy and gritty realism)Β frankly, that's just bad writing.Β especially if they want people to take the whole "Aura" thing seriously "oh, Pyrrha had a strong aura....except when it actually, you know, MATTERED."
As for me, I take the realism route, but at least stick to it: sure, there are some lighthearted moments (all those baby pictures...eeee...) but based on the setting i've created at least is consistent: things getting gradually worse, and even the endgame isn't going to magically be all sunshine and rainbows-
oh who the fuck am i kidding, i am such a HYPOCRITE.
i'm just...REALLY ticked off that the character who was basically the REASON i got into RWBY in the first place was, frankly, thrown away without justification.
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TheCrossoverer89 In reply to Soundwave3591 [2016-10-23 02:12:03 +0000 UTC]
I feel the same way, that why Im kinda writing my original series Lorekeeper, the characters I have are kinda based on RWBY but also some other characters
like my characters Nikkis Achillia is based on Pyrrha and Wonder Woman while Luminre D'Blanc is based on Jaune and Gourry from Slayers
Its kinda supposed to be something of an antidote to RWBY
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Soundwave3591 In reply to TheCrossoverer89 [2016-10-23 03:33:03 +0000 UTC]
I might need one of those myself after watching the new episode.....like, WTF?
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TheCrossoverer89 In reply to Soundwave3591 [2016-10-23 21:44:13 +0000 UTC]
I still admire Monty and I know his intentions was never to hurt anyone, he meant well and I still hold to his words. But I can't just go through what he planned mostly because I fear Sun and Neptune are just angst-catalyst for Blake and Weiss (unless RT keeps them true to their allusions of their myths AND be the princes in Weiss and Blakes stories, after all Sun Wukong in myth didn't fight the bull king by himself and before he was done for the Jaded emperor stepped in and back struck the demon, and Neptune's last name means prince...Some day my prince will come~" and I was told that RWBY's story will not last all the seasons, it may jump to other characters next then)
Either way Lorekeeper is something different, its about fighting negativity and combatting tragedy with comedy, if you want discuss it in private I'd be more than happy to
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TheCrossoverer89 In reply to Soundwave3591 [2016-10-29 15:41:51 +0000 UTC]
When I made your arguments on the rwby wiki forums they called me insane
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TheCrossoverer89 In reply to Soundwave3591 [2016-10-29 17:42:52 +0000 UTC]
There were before I met you, but they were remotely similar to yours
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OCArtist In reply to Soundwave3591 [2016-10-22 04:50:25 +0000 UTC]
It could be argued that Pyrrha's desire to never upset anyone was the cause of her death: her being a celebrity fighter meant that everyone was expecting her to go out and become the type of Huntress people tell stories about, and if you add that to the whole 'candidate to become the Fall Maiden' thing than I could definitely see her rushing off to fight Cinder out of a sense of responsibility with some minor elements of dehumanization (something I studied to help with Nemo's creation and a few other projects)
As for Pyrrha's aura giving out I have Two theories:
1. She just got finished with a rather intense fight against Penny and had zero time to rest, plus I'd imagine the Aura transfer and the fights against Grimm that likely happened in between may have depleted her aura further.
2. Pyrhha is famous for being "The Invincible Girl" and never taking a serious hit in battle. Assuming that Aura is like a muscle and strengthens with use I'd imagine that her always dodging or redirecting attacks left her aura somewhat underdeveloped from lack of use.
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Soundwave3591 In reply to OCArtist [2016-10-22 05:00:26 +0000 UTC]
or because she got hit in the stomach with a gear wheel the size of a VW Beetle.....
She didn't seem to take that many blows in her fight with Penny, though.Β I mean, Mercury only took a few punches from Yang at full-power before his gave out. Aura doesn't seem able to stand up to repeated or full-force blows. the best i can figure is that full-power blast used some of it up.
(which again comes back to "she wasn't thinking clearly:" surely if she were rational she would have realized "i've used a LOT of Aura tonight, maybe this is a bad idea?" I mean, jeez, how much did she use just getting to the top of the tower? )
and then there's this: why didn't Pyrrha's own Aura react when she was in the transfer machine? she was obviously in pain. (I really hope that tech is explained further)
Looking at all this, some of the weapons the NP use will be made clear.
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OCArtist In reply to Soundwave3591 [2016-10-22 05:23:00 +0000 UTC]
I'm not sure if Aura blocks pain, I think it's only damage. And I don't think it blocks 100% of damage either because Jaune somehow got a bruise on his face when CRDL was beating him up in Forever Fall.
There's a lot about Aura and Semblance we don't know and that's both a good thing and a bad thing: it gives us some annoying plot holes but it also allows us to come up with stuff like Artificial Semblance, Offensive Aura Shifts, Aura Suppressors, and a mutant rat Faunus who just won't die because he keeps swapping bodies whenever you kill him.
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bruiser128 [2016-10-22 01:28:01 +0000 UTC]
I was always thought Pyrrha would go for cinnamon scented shampoos.
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bruiser128 In reply to Soundwave3591 [2016-10-22 01:35:46 +0000 UTC]
Yeah that explanation makes sense.Β
Speaking of Strawberries, doesn't Ruby have more inΒ
common with the poppies than with roses?Β
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Soundwave3591 In reply to bruiser128 [2016-10-22 01:36:13 +0000 UTC]
now that you mention it, i wouldn't deny it.
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bruiser128 In reply to Soundwave3591 [2016-10-22 01:45:23 +0000 UTC]
Yeah it came to me after reading the poem "In Flanders Fields",Β
and realize that poppies like Ruby symbolize remembering thoseΒ
that fell in conflict.
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Soundwave3591 In reply to TheCrossoverer89 [2016-10-22 03:05:15 +0000 UTC]
According to the legend, Achilles was rescued from his Funeral pyre and his spirit taken to an island of immortal Warriors. He later encountered another figure of myth (forgot the name) and stated he'd have rather been a farmer and alive than a hero and dead.
and then there's how Jaune is based on Joane of Arc, who could hear the voice of God...and Achillies is the son of a Deity....
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Emilion-3 [2016-10-22 00:56:24 +0000 UTC]
And dare I say, Lia was...made? I dunno.
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Soundwave3591 In reply to Emilion-3 [2016-10-22 01:06:06 +0000 UTC]
not...yet. Lia's conception involved a lot less clothes and a lot more Mistralian ale...
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Emilion-3 In reply to Soundwave3591 [2016-10-22 01:36:46 +0000 UTC]
Passing the midterms in final year? Or something else?
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Soundwave3591 In reply to Emilion-3 [2016-10-22 01:46:23 +0000 UTC]
oh, this PIC is finals at beacon, yes.
but as to Lia's conception...
try beating off a Grimm assault on Atlas. Pyrrha came face-to-face with Cinder for the first time since the fall of Beacon, but thanks to the assistance of her friends, she was able to send her running. for now...for only a year later things would not turn out so well...
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Emilion-3 In reply to Soundwave3591 [2016-10-22 02:13:16 +0000 UTC]
When Lia was one she saw her momma cry?
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Soundwave3591 In reply to Emilion-3 [2016-10-22 02:44:00 +0000 UTC]
Lia was born right before the most traumatic event of Pyrrha's life: the Vacuo massacre. forget her NDE at Beacon. forget the siege of her home and a verbal whipping from her aunts over her "idiotic feelings" for a "worthless boy." forget the experience and coldness she faced in Atlas for what happened to Penny....
having to stand by, too constrained by her superiors and too weak from her labors, and watch as people she held dear were torn apart in a storm wave of Grimm and White Fang, thousands dead including the mother of Sun's child and several members of Velvet's family, would be one of the reasons she sought to reform the Huntsmen as a whole.
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Emilion-3 In reply to Soundwave3591 [2016-10-22 13:55:02 +0000 UTC]
Let me guess, Lia remembers that the day after her birthday lead to mama weeping for some reason?
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