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Published: 2009-01-20 14:25:41 +0000 UTC; Views: 8001; Favourites: 37; Downloads: 450
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On this solemn day of inauguration, we witness History in the making.. the fall of capitalism, the rebirth of socialism, and the unfettered expansion of the federal government.. Higher taxes, dependent people whose sole purpose is to receive a check from the government in return for votes.. Union rule, expensive schools with bad teachers and students in the richest country in the world with the lowest education..socialized health care, Government owned private enterprises.. and control.. more liberty removed, more lawyers and law suits.. more control.. more still more!! loss of military strength around the world.. and soon... very soon.. another attack on our home land.. with the chief diplomacy negotiator.. but can you negotiate with those who only seek to destroy you and your kind?? we shall see..Ahh the glorious Liberal empire of division through issues, and the use of Political correctness.. from hence forth I am no longer to be called a White Guy, or White period..
I will only accept the term EUROPEAN AMERICAN!! for we are all now divided into some issue or group..
Today I mourn the passing of the fundamental importance of this once great country...
R.I.P. Capitalism... ( you gave us sooo much)
for the next 4 years.. I dread the Liberals in the government..had we had a republican congress.. then obama wouldn't have been sooooo bad... There would be Balance...but we are now on the threshold of liberal imperialism.. Long Live socialism!!! Long live the U.S.S.A.!!!
(United Socialist States of America)
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hey!! well he might fail.. I don't agree with his policies, but I hope America succeeds..
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Preach it my brother. There has never been such a Hitleresque following/fawning over any US president, and the thing is, he did absolutely nothing to earn it, unless you count voting for every tax hike and complaining about free speech as esteem worthy activities. The real reason people like him is because the liberal media tells them they should and because he's black. This last election was such a joke, it was more like a high school prom election than a debate about the issues. What really disturbs me is how in one city they put a likeness of Obama on a donkey and rode it into the city while they waved palm branches and put some down in front. Psychofants AND idolaters.
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yeah.. but what's funny is the fact that they had a face of Obama on a Donkey... with palm branches...LOL Holy Jackass!!!
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Thank you so much; you read my mind on this.
I'm glad I'm not the only person with a mind on here.
Thank you for all eternity; finally, someone who knows the truth!
I give the U.S.A....Two years at maximum before we're all paying $6.50 for a black coffee, just like in France!
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OMG! It's already started!
Head for the hills!
Get your shotgun!
*grabs gun and runs*
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I, personally, disagree with what you're saying here and believe Obama will help the country, but I respect your opinion. Plus, I'm laughing to hard at the epicness of this deviation to want to start an argument.
Thanks for sharing! xDDDD
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LOL epic argument starting??.. that's funny.. it's not meant to start arguments.. that would infer that I actually care about those who disagree with my "POLITICAL" opinion.. in contrast.. I am actually just putting forth my own political expression, much in the same way that people burn their American flag..(freedom of speech and expression)
and to those who wish to simply argue about something that has already happened and out of our control, for the time being.. well kudos to them, since we live in a Nation that completely embraces freedom of speech and varying opinions..I encourage arguments for that sake, but again this image isn't meant for that purpose..Unless your an Obama Drone, then I suppose it would make one mad, and angry...
I thank you greatly for your respecting my opinion.. as I do respect yours and still I disagree, and feel that this nation is doomed to failure under Obama AND THE DEMOCRATS CONTROLLING THE HOUSE AND SENATE..
I could be wrong, I could be right, only time will tell.. however, I would prefer to be a pessimist about it, and get surprised in the end.. then to believe in his piety, and be disappointed and let down in the end.. after all Obama is "only" Human..
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Again, I don't agree, but everyone has their opinions and are entitled to express them. *shrug*
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There needs to be some sort of comedy out there. If anyone takes this deviation too seriously, that's their problem, not the deviant's. I, for one, find this to be epic lulz.
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Well I curtally hope it won't go THAT way. So like as Barak Husane Obama doesn't remove the "Right to bear arms" if he does the good citizens are screwed.
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Total disagreement man. The past 8 years have wrecked the US - it's about time that someone steered it right.
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SOCIALISM IS FINE FOR OTHER NATIONS, BUT NOT THIS ONE..this nation is about the individual being the sole and proprietary force behind it's economic and technological advancements.. for over 200 years, the USA has been ever the innovator and has grown to a great nation, all from capitalism and without the nagging social issues, that particular groups raise, all for their ability to vie for power.. and a piece of the pie, corruption has been entrenched in the government for a number of years.. the economic struggles we are enduring are due simply to the congress and democrats in particular.. republicans went along with their goals sometimes, and in many cases took their fair share of tax payer dough... that kind of mismanagement and power is only going to increase under Obama, who wants a massive amount of our money, tax payer money, American Money, Hard Working sweat that we produce, taken for their amusement, under the illegitimate guise of "stimulus".. the Government has no authority to just take, an should never have that kind of power.. the constitution's sole purpose is to support the limitization of the power to tax and harm it's people.. not anything more.. it sets limits on government... and should be respected.. Obama believes in Sol Alynski, "Rules for Radicals" and socialism.. which is the antithesis of American Life and the Constitution.. America's Path is on a bad spiral downward..and I for one can not wait until 2010, and 2012.. re-election, hell no!! time to get those psycho, eco-marxist, extremist, looney liberal, anti-population, anti-capitalist, anti-americans ou of office.. look at all the States in Bankruptcy from their over taxation...those states with liberal congresses and governors are in ruin.. that is how this nation will become under Obama.. and his piggy bank is larger then those bankrupt states, and yet they, in the congress and senate want our hard working dollars to pay for their whims..
No my friend.. this nation is in a sad state of decline.. our schools over funded., our media acting like a propaganda arm of the liberal democrats, an mirroring state controlled media of China..
believe what you wish, i however, will never support, Nor accept this man as my President.. just as many of the same people on the opposite side of this view said the same about George Bush, of whom, I did NOT support..
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the sermon has been concluded.. LOL
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Gotta' ask man; do you want all American institutions privatized?
I mean, isn't that capitalism at its finest?
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sure, privatization would breed competition which leads to innovation and advancements, eventually producing cheaper and higher quality products.. or services.. government stagnates progress..
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wow, I never really thought of it like that.
I suppose we should privatize schools, police, the military, and firefighters too.
It'd be an interesting place to live in, that's for sure.
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I think it would be cool that way, Imagine how much more enthused those public service people would be if they knew that if they excelled beyond their normal status and became a hero in their industry.. others would follow suit.. Now police I wouldn't say should be privatized.. unless closely regulated..but imagine a man taking on crime and doing a great job, getting paid big bucks and becoming a celebrity.. that incentive would push others in that field to do the same, and likewise would inspire children..then innovation comes into play with private corporations and suppliers.. and such..
However the military should remain under government control as part of the charter of the constitution.. just as the police and fire fighters....this is a basic need, one that full fills the rights of peace and stability.. defense of the Nation is what it says in the constitution.. which is basically what the Central Federal Government is for..the states are the ones who need to regulate common laws according to their constituents.. who can be heard more then in a representative Federal government.. which is why lobbyist groups have emerged to put forth the agenda of those states constituents.. which is only able to do that through Organized efforts, campaign contributions and corporate sponsorship.. so the little guy ends up being drowned out and the citizens are pushed aside for the "MOB" rule that can afford Lobbying..
this problem stems from the 1950's and FDR's New Deal.. which established entitlements (checks) from the Federal Government in exchange for Democratic voters and control of Government... all while still ignoring the individual citizens of the states, and giving the focus of Power to the federal government instead...
the system is rife with corruption due to this centralized control..and we see it more now then ever..
that is why i support thew fair Tax [link] this idea would be the single largest transfer of power from government to the people and would necessitate the removal of the 16th amendment.. and would guarantee more political control over the government by the people instead of vice verse..see they work for us, not the other way around...
we are all kings in our own right and able to achieve a rich status..we are all elites.. even the poorest of us is able to achieve, provided the government get out of the way and not enable slave-hood through handouts..
so competition should be around in schools and such to wed out the bad teachers and those in Unions who do less work as the good ones but get paid the same and are still able to do bad work, because of that safety net of the union and Tenure..
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"I think it would be cool that way, Imagine how much more enthused those public service people would be if they knew that if they excelled beyond their normal status and became a hero in their industry"
yes, imagine police getting money for busting more drug dealers, for catching more people, for issuing more tickets.
Wow, if you can't see the potential pitfalls in that... I'm shaking my head.
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The military is the only institution I think should remain at a national level. It comes to organization.
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But why there? Why decide that the military should be socialised, and the others not?
I mean, we've got Blackwater... why not just expand them?
If Capitalism is such a perfect idea.. then why not let it into everything?
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the military, police and firefighters are a necessary arm of the government to protect it's own people.. and secure the nation, this is one right the government has, but is limited to that role.. in the constitution.. but it is the TAX that we pay as citizens that restrain us from being able to pay for private police and Fire fighters and remove it from the federal government or local state government..
if we didn't have to pay a tax to the federal government.. then being a fire fighter would have to come from the private citizens of that area.. and would be like paying a utility bill.. to the power or cable company.. now as far as the military, it's voluntary..and you can choose to join or not.. so it's socialized in that the government pays for it, but it's still voluntary.. but I don't know if I can get on board with the whole privatized citizenry..
being a capitalist is not just an absolute.. there are certain things that should be responsibilities of Government.. other wise why have one??? but like the framers of this nation decided in the constitution...there must be strict limits...
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However, there are times when being part of the military is NOT voluntary. Imagine being drafted by a company.
/shiver down spine
Not a good thought.
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I see Capitalism as more of an economic than a government model. I don't agree with it 100%, but it's better for the people over all than socialism (which tends to lead to communism). Capitalism lets the smart and inovative businesses benefit, and ineffecient, stagnant, businesses fail. The laborers just shift occupations. (think of the change from slaves to cotton gin, and manufacturing of mainframes to PCs) If our government ran then as it does now we would still be using mainframes because to shift away from it would be losing jobs. The would have had to make a mainframe stimulus package! Our Government is now 'stimulating' or 'bailing out' institutions that have terrible business models or made terrible business decisions. They are socializing institutions to try and provide stability (school, health, banks, auto) where will stop?
democracy is a form of government, though I'm more happy with a republic. A majority rule can still be WRONG.
Nowaydays we blend our 'democracy' with 'capitalism mixed socialism'. I sorta like the mix. Heck I got my tax return, someone was paying that, it wasn't me. Though we are heading away from the capitalism part and more to socialism. The governments of the world that are or were socialist.. I don't like. We prospered under capitalism, and as we shift away from it we suffer.
Anyways, I see governments responsibility to the people to provide order and protect rights through laws, and enforcement of those laws through courts. And to protect it's sovereignty, which requires a military force. I don't see military as socialism, nationalism yes, but not socialism. Blackwater is practically a mercinary group, and we see what craziness they get into.
a bit more than I wanted to say, but there it is.
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"Capitalism lets the smart and inovative businesses benefit, and ineffecient, stagnant, businesses fail."
Yet you fail to mention what it does to PEOPLE. The person who, for one reason or another, isn't able to compete on an equal field - what does capitalism do for them?
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In good economic times it really isn't that big a deal. But in bad economic times it can hurt more. But the idea is that if capitalism runs its course there wouldn't be a crisis like the one we're seeing now, which was a situation created by government policies and corporate greed.
interesting timing, check out this recent article: [link]
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I don't think you really addressed my comment - how does Capitalism protect those that are unable to compete?
And yes, in good times, it is still and issue.
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No economic model (except communism) protects those that are not able to compete.
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Really? Even in Socialism-lite there is protection.
If you look towards countries like Canada, Norway, Denmark, Sweden (all ranked highly on happiness and livability polls), they all have protections for those that cannot fend for themselves.
Yet a purely Capitalist system does not have those protections - are you seriously wanting a purely Capitalist system?
Personally, I can think of very few countries that have such a system (possibly Somalia right now), and I wouldn't want to live there.
So, I'll ask - what country in the world has a purely Capitalist system, and would you want to live there?
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"are you seriously wanting a purely Capitalist system?"
nope as stated before I kinda like the capitalist/socialist mix we've enjoyed for years. But now we are progressing away from the capitalist behaviours that made our country great.
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Could it be, that the US simply goes through states of flux... tilting (slightly) from one system to the other? I mean looking at US history, it seems to me that it has flirted with various types of government (not in a non-republic sense, but rather meaning the amount of government involvement).
You've stated that you'd be fine with a system that is privately controlled sans the Military... are you still holding to that? Can you give me an example of a country where that has worked?
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flux, sure, but there are some programs that once in place would be hard to remove (socialized medical care) and thus harder to 'unflux' from. The path our country is on is more socialism, and I don't particularly care for it; though I would probably benefit a lot under it.
A country where it worked: USA circa 1780
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1780 eh?
Was there equal rights for women?
Was there equal rights for minorities?
Did the disabled get employment protections?
What were the opportunities for the average person in regards to education?
What was the access to medicine like for the average family?
What were the workplace safety laws like?
Are you sure you'd actually want to live in a system like that?
I wouldn't.
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something makes me think no matter what time I picked you'd have grief with it. I'm not sure anyone would really like to live at any time in the past sinse the present seems better in that we have hope for an even better future (even if that isn't realized).
Though 1780 was a great time for a beginning government and fledgling country. It was a result of what was established then that the allowed equal rights laws to finally make it into law. Science was able to flourish, and a nation prospered. Then the government kept getting bigger, being asked of for more and more. Then setup regulation entities that got to be to much of a sham(FDA, NSBA, FBI/CIA/HS, fed reserve, etc.) All they needed to do is establish laws to protect rights of its citizens, and an agency or two to enforce. Then we'd be doing pretty good. Not this super power hungry entity that must be everything to everyone.
For whatever reason though in good times we are fine with wherever the government is, but in times of economic turmoil the nation turns to the government (who got us into the situation) and asks for it to be fixed. why do we do that?! argh.
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Yet you failed to address my concerns about some people being left behind. 1780 America was an extremely racist place, a place where it would be difficult to live if you were not an able-bodied white male. And even then, if you were of the working class, chances are you'd be subjected to numerous workplace dangers.
You want to continue to talk about the Gov getting bigger, as that seems to be your agenda. But I'm asking some direct questions here.
Your ideal place/time excludes many people from mainstream society.. and it wasn't 'good competitive companies' that brought them into the mix. It was social activism and government legislation.
If companies were left to run a country, with government taking a very distant backseat, do you think there'd be any of the protections in place that you enjoy today?
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well I was trying to pick a time that lept into my head and run with it. but alas I can't say I have a favorite time, so I guess I'll just suck it up and enjoy now.
I don't want companies to run a country, I want that legislation in there. But there is a point where the government is runing the companies. Like now, the bail out cash is given to companies, but told when where how to use it (not guarunting it acutally does). I don't think there should have been a bail out in the first place, but here it is anyways.
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duuuuuuude no! spreading the wealth is not capitalism or socialism its a good idea since rich people suck donkey nuts and make us do all the work
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without rich people we have no jobs, and without jobs we starve..without government, we would save all our money, screw Obama.. and No chance to see what this man can do, we already know.. he's a socialist..
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ugh man come on we dont need rich people to have jobs! rich people are the end result of having a good job, if rich bastards werent obsessed with golf we'd have a solution to the homeless problem, we would have jobs because even in a socialist state you have to work, and sure dumb asses would starve but some of us know how to kill and cook our own food, or we can just live in grocery stores till we figure it out lol government should work for the people, not the other way around and thats what you;d end up with without obama, continued government making its people afraid of them and taking their hard earned money to pay for their new pools or fancy suits
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Dude Rich people are what create Jobs, Where else do we get work from?? Show me one poor Person who can hire you and get you to do a job and get paid?? I don't know anyone poor who can hire me.. if you truly believe rich people don't giv us jobs, then that's funny.. I respect you, but I disagree.. strongly..
in a socialist state you do have to work, and the rich people there are in the Government.. and they decided how you as a citizen spend your money..
obama, is a socialist and wants your money, to fund his programs.. but I think and feel that my money and your money should be spent the way you want to.. not the way he thinks it will benefit those who sit on their asses..
think it over..
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