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TimelordWonder [2015-05-25 03:15:59 +0000 UTC]

Now introducing: the "Spacetime of Relativity!" This is great for anyone who knows anything about physics!

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evryrosehasitsthorns [2014-01-04 07:48:49 +0000 UTC]

I personally believe that time is nothing more than a construct of our minds, usually adapted from a fairly consistent sequence of events (revolutions of the earth on its axis, or rotating about the sun, being some of the most common concepts of time.) Once these sequences are taken away from us, all that we perceive as being time crumbles and melts until unrecognisable and indiscernible. Einstein's theories regarding time implicate photons as the determining agent for what we perceive to be time. Therefore, going faster than the speed of light by any degree was (and often is) perceived as being able to slow time from the speedy observer's point of view - not that any observer would necessarily even be capable of surviving such a thing, no matter the technology. This provides us with theoretical warps in the perception of time around black holes, and why we see the supernovae of stars from millions or more years ago in what we find to be the present day.

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sav2718 In reply to evryrosehasitsthorns [2014-01-05 18:22:42 +0000 UTC]

"Time" is the byproduct of the brain's constant measurements of the enviroment.
Your sense of "time" is actually your sense of rhythm and the brain's working-memory comparing new experiences to already stored data. Because entropy isn't the same everywhere things are always in motion, what makes one moment not the same as the other. There is no "moving into the future" as it seems, only vibrating in your place. Time is the result of space and energy. Movement defines time, not the other way around (and because you've mentioned it, Lorentz factor in special relativity makes it very clear).

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evryrosehasitsthorns In reply to sav2718 [2014-01-09 10:13:53 +0000 UTC]

I've personally found that some people simply can't accept that time isn't something wholly real if not nearly tangible. It seems it's such a fundamental part of the brain - for keeping one's sense of reality and order - that to hear time is little more than an abstraction of purely relative chains of events, utterly dependent on the individual's point of view, is incredulous to some. Observed change is time, and vice versa. I also somewhat relate my bipolar moods to the Lorentz factor; for instance, when I'm in a manic flight with ideas flying by and words shooting out of my mouth faster than I can even process myself, it seems like time goes by far too quickly. In a sense, I feel like I never have enough time when I'm manic, which almost seems ironic because I probably do the most when I'm manic. The quickly moving observer, myself, perceives less time going by than the slower observer, say, a clock on the wall. Now, this is purely allegorical, and not a direct translation, as I didn't age any slower than anyone else around me, despite having been perceived as going faster, in one sense or another, than everyone else. That's just a purely perceptual relation. And, just as with my mania, my depressions can have observed affects that feel similar to the Lorentz factor: I move slower, do fewer things, and it seems like it takes an agonisingly long time for a single day, if not a single minute, to pass. Some even say that time 'flies by' when you're having fun, but 'takes forever' when one's experiences feel dull. We perceive time and, invariably, a sequence of events differently depending on the rhythm (as you said) or pace that we sense. I have to admit, though, that my perception of time is horribly skewed and warped, along with my memory, as I can struggle to grasp at any semblance of order, and even reality, quite frequently. My mind can become confused and broken, making my perceptions feel flimsy.

Right now is an interesting time for me to write all this, as I have both a new routine med that make me sleepy and flu medicine that makes me drowsy. I can't even quite guarantee how coherent all this will come out, though I'm trying to take care that I write as consistently and accurately as I can. I'm glad that we share similar (if not identical, so far) views on time. Trying to convince the people around me (for instance, my mom) that time is an artificial construct of our brains to compare data already taken and data being collected, as well as to maintain a sense of stability and order in our perceptions of reality... well, it's just not easy, I guess. The basal ganglia, cerebral cortex, and cerebellum are all like the gears of a clock spinning and ticking away; only, instead of creating a series of events (changes) that make up what is perceived as time, they rather document it and compare it to other such events. I sometimes wonder if my cerebral cortex is... hindered or damaged in somewhat, as many of the areas in which it is supposed to be a particularly important piece, I just so happen to have many deficits: attention, perception of time, memory, awareness, et cetera. But, before I go on a longer 10% alcohol, antihistamine riddled, cough suppressant filled, decongestant sprinkled tangent, I'll just stop myself here.

Oh, and - by the way - I hope you had a good Christmas and New Years, whether or not you celebrate either. I'm not too sure I "celebrate" all that much about either one, myself. But still, I hope you've been well.

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sav2718 In reply to evryrosehasitsthorns [2014-01-09 11:57:46 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much but I'm not celebrating due to being agnostic in my views and my general detachment from society's costumes and habits (I'm somewhat of an urban hermit). I also live in Israel (although I'm leaving very soon to live in Germany) and christmas is not celebrated here. I also know that most people have a hard time (sorry for the pun) to understand time as an abstract made up by our minds in order to make sense of seemingly casual events.
What you're describing is subjective "time" and it is far more important than so called "objective time". Your life is made of moments not of cloack-seconds, the more thoughts you have per cloack-seconds the longer your "time" is "stretching". 

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evryrosehasitsthorns In reply to sav2718 [2014-01-09 12:28:51 +0000 UTC]

Yes, well, subjective time really is far more important. It's what matters to the individual, as it's dependant on the individual's point of view. But I want to get just one clarification. By 'stretching,' do you mean to say that time appears to go by slower to the manic, or that their perception of what time should be is stretched when it is, in fact, much faster than they thought (e.g. they thought only a couple hours went by, but a quarter of the day actually went by)? Because I've found the latter to be frequently true, although bipolar is not the most consistent thing in the world, and mixed moods can cause for all sorts of results (a manic phase can seem astonishingly fast, agonisingly slow, or normal; a depressive phase can seem overwhelmingly fast, oppressively slow, or normal.) It's always easy to talk about these sorts of things when simplifying the circumstances, but now that I think about it more, a thing like bipolar just can't be simplified without sacrificing some very vital qualities. Though all mental illnesses can be quite burdensomely complex.

Also, I did deduce that you were from Israel when I browsed the profile of a friend of yours that you thanked and linked on the page of one of your deviations, which is why I said, "whether or not you celebrate." I know that you don't celebrate Christmas in Israel, being more classical Abrahamic, but I did include New Years which most people celebrate in some way all across the globe. But I do like your term, 'urban hermit.' I think that could fit me fairly, well, too. I also find myself detached from, as you put it, many of 'society's costumes and habits.' Then again, I'm agoraphobic, bipolar, and my nurse practitioner now thinks that I have Schizotypal Personality Disorder, largely because of my many idiosyncrasies. I had considered the possibility of my being Schizoaffective (a sort of blend of the psychotic spectra and mood disorder spectra), which she now also wonders, though I think bipolar with StPD is adequate.

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sav2718 In reply to evryrosehasitsthorns [2014-01-10 00:20:38 +0000 UTC]

Your perception of time is guided by your thoughts and external stimuli. Faster thoughts=slower time (ex; a minute feels like 10).
It makes perfect sense that both manic AND depression states of mind would sometimes go to either extreme (slower and/or faster time). I'm familiar with schizoaffective disorder. I was diagnosed many times with depression, OCD, OCPD, PD NOS and hyperlexia. I am OK with myself and feel very whole but other people and the way the world "works" makes it very hard to exist in peace.
 Have you seen any of the following? I believe you'll like them very much:
Waking life
Scanner darkly
Aeon flux (the series)
Mr.nobody (full version)
Donny Darko
Mary and Max (or any of Adam Elliot's short movies)
La planete sauvage
Gandahar

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evryrosehasitsthorns In reply to sav2718 [2014-01-15 09:21:35 +0000 UTC]

I've seen Waking Life and A Scanner Darkly. I may have seen a bit of Aeon Flux, but I'm not certain. I'd be interested in watching all those, considering the company the films and series I'm not familiar with are in. Japanese animes are a particular love of mine - especially like Ghost in the Shell, as anime... I've found... has an astonishing ability to convey extremely complex and deep messages that no other medium could really capture. Ghost in the Shell captured my imagination, and posed many great and even frightful hypothetical questions embedded in their stunningly complex and darkly beautiful animation. It can stimulate your intellect, your vision, and even your body by eliciting emotional and physical reactions from you. But I have a love for just about all things Japan... A Nipponphiliac, I suppose. xD But I think that Waking Life and A Scanner Darkly also captured my imagination and stimulated my mind and body in a similar way as Ghost in the Shell. Only Ghost in the Shell was longer, being a series, and perhaps had a more drawn out message, and more messages throughout. Still, it's a slightly different medium - film versus series.

Some of those diagnoses you listed, by the way, sounded like either superfluous clarifications of others, or redundant. Sounds like you've been through the diagnostic ringer a few times.

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sav2718 In reply to evryrosehasitsthorns [2014-01-15 12:21:06 +0000 UTC]

I thought I should show you these:

1.www.youtube.com/watch?v=udb6VK…
2.www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdd5wB…
3.www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifeyKh…

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evryrosehasitsthorns In reply to sav2718 [2014-01-15 12:32:45 +0000 UTC]

I'll keep these bookmarked. My current internet isn't good enough for streaming videos. But, when I do get the opportunity, I'll make sure to take a look. I managed to glean some information from the Italian text beneath one of the videos. He makes surrealistic anime operas?

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sav2718 In reply to evryrosehasitsthorns [2014-01-15 13:07:13 +0000 UTC]

You'll see .

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RayvensEye [2013-02-27 19:55:19 +0000 UTC]

That is awesome

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sav2718 In reply to RayvensEye [2013-03-02 21:25:41 +0000 UTC]

thank you! please be sure to check my other stuff ;

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aFanofanArt [2012-12-23 21:51:05 +0000 UTC]

Wow...how much time did it take you to do it?

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rannveigfunderud [2012-11-22 08:40:00 +0000 UTC]

Cool!

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bear48 [2012-10-18 01:23:20 +0000 UTC]

nice job

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MariCambero [2012-10-17 13:18:42 +0000 UTC]

WOW!! SPEECHLESS

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sav2718 In reply to MariCambero [2012-10-21 13:54:56 +0000 UTC]

thank you!

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